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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
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Stanley
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Posted - 30/04/2011 : 05:26
The death at 90 of Dr Gordon Dick. A gent and a good doctor.



Wellhouse Street closed ready for a street party. Judging by the noise they had a good time in the afternoon.


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Posted - 30/04/2011 : 11:36
Yes Dr. Dick was a lovely man.


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catgate
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Posted - 30/04/2011 : 19:14
Please note..... this is a non-political post even though there are some who will wish to see it as such.

My attention was caught by a plethora of photographs of yesterdays ceremonials.

I am neither pro nor anti royalty. I think on balance we are better off with them than we would be without them. They do give us the appearance, as a country, that we realise there is something “above” politicians.

The purpose of this post is to ask if anyone has ever figured out what all these fancy stars and medallions, that seem to totally encapsulate the male members of “the household”, are supposed to indicate. They, the males, are trussed up like chickens in mile after mile of golden rope, straps and webbing and are festooned with enough ironware and metalic symbolism and medal ribbons that it must be a huge burden carrying it all round for hours. What is it all doing. It must mean something. It has been copied all over the world by jumped up tin-pot “ national leaders” to try to give themseves some “gravitas”.


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belle
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Posted - 30/04/2011 : 22:49
I have to say, yesterday's blue sash with the wings emblem suggested "thunderbirds are go!" from me


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Bradders
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Posted - 01/05/2011 : 00:37
Cat....There WILL be someone, somewhere  who knows what all that hardwear means.......

Retired Military , probably....eh !


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Bradders
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Posted - 01/05/2011 : 00:45


quote:
belle wrote: "thunderbirds are go!" Yessss Belle !...spot on ..

I knew it reminded me  of something ....


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Posted - 01/05/2011 : 04:28
The death has been announced today of Professor (Brigadier TA) Richard Holmes the reknowned military historian. He was 65

I have read and enjoyed a number of his books and his television programmes particularly about Wellington and the series War Walks were excellent.  Nolic


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Posted - 01/05/2011 : 05:05
 What grabbed my attention this morning at  about at 3.45am were strange noises in the garden. I dragged  poor  Dan out of bed and both of us crept downstairs and out the back door to tackle whoever was messing around near the garden shed. Fotunately for them or us, there was no-one there and no signs of any misdeed. 

The only thing there was a cat sat on next doors garden wall looking at us behaving rather strangely  and a lucher bounding out of the kitchen and deciding it was time for a play.  Both son and lurcher are now back asleep and I have to decide what use I will make of my enforced earlier than normal morning. Nolic


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Stanley
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Posted - 01/05/2011 : 06:02
Thanks Catty for opening a thread I have been tempted to comment on but disisted because of the belief in some quarters that I am a Republican and any comment would be seen to be anti-royalty. As a matter of fact, my view is remarkably close to yours, if we didn't have them we'd have to invent a replacement.

As for the decorations, my own view is that we have to go back to 1688. It was at that point that the fallacy of Divine Right of Kings finally bit the dust. Until then, the momarch, being directly supported by God, needed very little outward show to reinforce his authority. From then on the preferred method of reinforcement in Europe seems to have been the illusion of the 'warrior king'. Note that when Victoria married Albert she made sure he wore the uniform of a Field Marshall in the army. The strange thing is that as the influence of Britain and the Empire waned in the 19th century new ceremonies and 'traditions' were invented to bolster the position of the monarchy, note that the Jubilee celebrations were a political ploy to try to retrieve Victoria from her self-imposed isolation after Albert's death. She was actually against it but in the end acquiesced. So, the amount of tin on the chest increased, the more you had, the more important and warrior-like you became.  Note how the custom spread to African dictators. We even had a claim to the Scottish Throne!

The thought that passed through my mind was that William, as a serving pilot in the RAF search and rescue, should have worn his ordinary uniform, not his courtesy one as colonel in chief. The sash with the wings on was a pathetic nod towards his real qualification to wear a uniform.

The trees that were supposed to convey modesty and humility jarred with the ruritanian comic opera aspects of the uniforms. Mind you, Michael Jackson thought they were OK.

Never mid 'poor Dan'! It should have been him and Misty defending  the demesne! What's the point of rearing him to that size and having to bark yourself!


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catgate
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Posted - 01/05/2011 : 11:13
I think you may have to go back several more centuries than that Stanley.

If you look at some of the contemporary paintings of the Plantagenet era they liked a bit of bling.


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thomo
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Posted - 01/05/2011 : 12:00
If you think that those uniform decorations are over the top, take a good look at some of the senior US Officers, any more medals and the will have to put them round the back. This was discussed when talking to a young US Sailor in Copenhagen, he asked where my medals were, havnt earned any yet being the reply, he had three, one for finishing basic training, one for passing out as an AB and one for crossing the Atlantic another being due on the return trip, we had both been in the services for less than a year.


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Stanley
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 04:55
Yes Catty, of course they did. I was thinking more in terms of the modern practice of wearing military and naval uniforms on the slightest pretext. I agree with Peter, when we were in Berlin the medal count in the US Occupation forces beat us by a country mile!

Just hear that US special forces have killed Oscar Bin Liner in a firefight at the villa near  Islamabad in Pakistan where he has been hiding for some time. They have the body and have positively identified it. Barak Obama made a speech and it was interesting that in chronicling the areas where Al Qu'eeda had been targeted he didn't mention Iraq. Question is whether this will trigger a reaction with Muslim Fundamentalists. Somehow I don't think they are going to be very happy.

Wonderful snooker yesterday, looking forward to the rest of the final today.


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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 05:25
Since I wrote the above the news is full of nothing else. The experts have come out of the woodwork and questions are being asked already about Pakistani Taliban supporters who sheltered him and what the reaction will be.

I think he got what he asked for, but two problems come to mind, it will be seen by his followers as a martyr's death and what's the difference between a targeted killing, an assassination and a terrorist attack? I suppose it all depends what your point of view is. I have to admit it worries me.

Is today another Bank Holiday? Has UK PLC been shut down for a fortnight? On my morning walk I noticed that the video rental shop in the Majestic Parade is empty, a sign in the window says 'Phoenix Videos' Skipton Road. No surprise really, video rental must have been in decline ever since online TV and the new satellite systems with films on demand came on stream.


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Bradders
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 10:42
Last time I looked , there was a report that Bin Laden's body had been "buried at sea".....Is that a bit quick ?

I'm much more sad about the death of Henry Cooper......He was definitely "robbed" in that 1963 fight with Cassius Clay (who ,incidentally, has paid a fitting tribute to his old adversory !)

R.I.P.   "  'Enery "......

P.S. Who remembers " Splash it all over ! "  (was it Brut ) ?
P.P.S. Here's the clip , more like a nuclear left hook actually ! (about 3 minutes into the video) at the end of the forth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnEDM4EC5kw
 

Edited by - Bradders on 02/05/2011 1:05:53 PM


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thomo
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 11:55
It was indeed "Brut" Bradders, I was surprised when they gave his age as I thought he would have been older. I saw one of Enery's gloves in Randolph Turpins bar atop the Great Orme, biggest glove i've ever seen.


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