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thomo
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Khaki in colour and sombre in content. "Cravens Part in the Great War", there will not have been many households in Barlick and what was then a much larger Craven Area, that did not have at least one copy of this book. In my immediate Family there would have been at least four and I still have two of them, albeit that one is with my son on Anglesey. Over the years I have seen them at jumble sales, in second hand shops and in piles of rubbish for disposal, even left behind when a house has been vacated. They will have turned up all over the place, I have come across them in Wales, the Isle of Wight and Hampshire, the two that I have belonged to my Father and Maternal Grandfather.
Many years ago I went through one of them from cover to cover noting those from Barlick who had given their lives in the service of King and Country, my notes are long gone so I am going to do it again, a few pages at a time, but this time I will include other local places within an approximate seven mile radius, Gisburn, Foulridge, Earby and so on. I will post my findings on here with the name, address and a precis of other details, as some are quite extensive, each name is to have the page number for my reference so that if anyone wants further information, I can soon find it. In a good number of cases there is a photograph, these I will copy and post in groups of ten at suitable intervals. In the book there are 391 pages so I will use a few abreviations hopefully all self explanatory, ie, KIA:- Killed in Action. MPD:- Missing presumed Dead. DOW:- Died as a result of Wounds, and one that is all too frequent, DFD:- Died from Disease or Illness.
One Man was responsible for the existance of these books and that was Mr, Walter Morrison Esq, JP of Malham Tarn who put forward the idea of the book and defrayed the entire cost.
There is quite a bit about the war itself up to page 50, including the Rohilla Tradgedy, then comes the dreadful list of those who did not come home, and so it is that on page 57 we find the first of Barlicks Sons, and is as follows:-
2nd Lieut Harry Thornton Pickles, 3rd Bn Duke of Wellington's (West Riding) Regiment (SR) second son of Mr Stephen Pickles JP, CC, Of Raysgill Barnoldswick KIA 26th April 1916 aged 26. P57.
In these first ten pages the extent of family loss is made very clear for it was in the Village of Carleton nr Skipton that this comes up:-
P53, Lieut. Anthony E.K. Slingsby, 1/6th Duke of Wellington's (WR) Regiment, Son of Mr and Mrs J A Slingsby Carla Beck Carleton. KIA France 14th July 1915. Aged 26.
P57, Captain Arthur Morris Slingsby, MC 56th Punjabi Rifles, 2nd son of Mr and Mrs J A Slingsby KIA 8th March 1916 in Mesopotamia. Aged 30.
P58. Lieut. Stephen Slingsby of HMS Defence, 4th son of Mr and Mrs J A Slingsby. KIA in North Sea June 1916. Aged 24.
This out of a total of five sons all serving.
Lothersdale is the next local Village with on P62. Lieut Alec Wilson, 1st Herefordshire Regiment, Son of Mr and Mrs F J Wilson JP of Lothersdale. KIA 26th March 1917 in Egypt.
P54, Lieut. The Hon, C. A. Lister Royal Marines, Hood Battalion, Only surviving son and heir of Lord Ribblesdale of Gisburne Park DOW 28th August 1915. Elder Brother killed in 1904 in Somaliland.
Greystones, Gisburn. Lieut. George Proctor, Lancs Fusiliers, only son of Mr and Mrs Thomas Proctor. KIA 7th April 1918 aged 24. P70.
Marton is on P73, Which Marton is not clear, 2nd Lieut, Joseph Bryan Bushby South Staffs Regiment, son of Mr and Mrs Joseph Bushby, Schoolhouse Farm Marton, DOW, 4th October 1918 aged 26.
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Edited by - thomo on 11/10/2011 4:05:43 PM
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Callunna
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 12:06
Thanks!
From a 21st century perspective it's easy to criticise the jingoistic nature of some of these poems, but when you consider the times and the horrific situation the young soldiers found themselves in, it's totally understandable.
The more I read about this subject, the more I realise ... do you know what? I can't actually put it into words just yet. I'll have to have a think.
It's about what an utterly obscene and totally senseless thing the Great War was. The hideous decisions made by those in charge on both sides, sending young lads into what I can only imagine was a living and dying hell. But if I'm not careful I'll only write something clumsy and hackneyed, so I'd best leave it for now.
Peter, this research is extremely valuable - thanks for undertaking it. |
thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 12:54
Its my pleasure Heather, and it keeps me off the streets! it has also just been my pleasure to inform the body that was convinced that Pte, Anker was buried at Keighley, that he is indeed buried at Ghyll. Is the project we discussed yesterday to be kept under wraps or can it be made public? I don't want to let anything out that may prejudice its success.
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Callunna
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 13:29
I can't see any harm in mentioning it - although if we do then we'll have to make sure we follow it through! |
thomo
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 14:01
We will do our best and as it is said "Nothing ventured, nothing gained"
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Chris CPGW
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 14:18
Ian I sent you a PM with my address just in case you didn't clock the message.
Regards
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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 14:26
Yesterday we came across several Headstones with an odd symbol on them, as far as I can make out, this is what it is:-
In Hoc Signo Vince; In this sign you will conquer. Motto of Knights Templar, Top of the York Rite of the Masonic Order. And the matter of two rows of graves facing West, it appears that one theory is that facing West is facing the land of the dead, the other being, it does not matter wether the grave faces East or West as long as the incumbent is facing East!!!
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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 14:41
Surname: BRACEWELL
Forename(s): Frederick
Place of Birth: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Residence: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Service No: 34270
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: Dorsetshire Regiment
Battalion/Unit: 1st Battalion
Division: 32nd Division
Age: 21
Date of Death: 1918-08-11
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: III. E. 109.
CWGC Cemetery: BOUCHOIR NEW BRITISH CEMETERY
CWGC Memorial: -----
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
British Army WW1 Medal Rolls Index Cards: Pte. Frederick Bracewell, 43538, Hampshire Regiment, and 34270, Dorsetshire Regiment.
Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
PRIVATE FREDERICK BRACEWELL, Dorset Regt., son of Mr. R. Bracewell, Calf Hall Road, Barnoldswick, killed in action 11th August, 1918. Aged 21 years.
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
BRACEWELL, F., aged 21, Dorset Regt., 6, Calf Hall Road, [Barnoldswick], killed in action about Aug. 11, 1918.
Article Date: 06 September 1918
Barnoldswick Man Killed in Action
The sad news of the death of their son, Pte. Frederick Bracewell (Dorsetshire Regiment), was received last week-end by Mr. and Mrs. Robert Bracewell, 6, Calf Hall Road, Barnoldswick, in the following letter from Pte. Harold Scott, of the 58th Canadian Infantry Battalion:- "The body of your son, Pte. Fredk. Bracewell, was found on the battlefield by a member of this battalion after being in action on Aug. 11th between Damery and Parvilliers. While searching for identification a wallet containing pictures was found which I am forwarding on to you, and trust it will reach you safely. His pay book I am forwarding to the Record Office. I am sorry I cannot give you the exact location of his grave, but no doubt this will be forwarded to you through the proper channels. Having lost several of my own pals out here at different times, I know that these few lines will be appreciated. If there is any further information you would like to have I shall only be too pleased to do my best for you." Pte. Bracewell's last letter was dated Aug. 11th. He was 21 years of age, and enlisted in July last year, being engaged for some time at a Remount Camp in the South of England before being drafted to France last April, when he was transferred to the Dorset Regiment. Before joining up he worked at Holder's, Calf Hall Shed.
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thomo
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 14:46
Surname: BRAMALL
Forename(s): Henry
Place of Birth: Macclesfield, Cheshire
Residence: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Service No: 4697
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: East Lancashire Regiment
Battalion/Unit: 1st Battalion
Division: 4th Division
Age: --
Date of Death: 1915-07-09
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: II. D. 7.
CWGC Cemetery: TALANA FARM CEMETERY
CWGC Memorial: -----
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
PRIVATE H. BRAMMALL, East Lancs. Regt., of 7, Queen Street, Barnoldswick. killed in action 9th July, 1915.
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
BRAMHALL, H., 1st E.L. Regiment, killed in France, July 9, 1915.
Article Date: 23 July 1915
TWO BARNOLDSWICK SOLDIERS UNOFFICIALLY REPORTED KILLED
Private Walter Smith of the 1st East Lancashire Regiment, writing to relatives in Cecil Street, Barnoldswick, tells of the death of two of his comrades. One of the men who he states is said to have been killed is Private Richard Duerden, a native of Blackburn, who lodged in Barnoldswick, and had been employed with the local industry. Private Duerden is alleged to have been shot.
The other casualty is reported to be that of Private Henry Bramall, also of the 1st East Lancashire Regiment. The manner of his death is not stated. The War Office has made no official communication respecting these two local soldiers.
Article Date: 13 August 1915
BRAMALL - Killed in action in France, July 9th, Pte. Harry Bramall, 1st East Lancashire Regiment.- From his Wife and Child, 7, Queen Street, Barnoldswick
Article Date: 20 August 1915
PRIVATE BRAMALL
The above is a portrait of Pte. H. Bramall, of the 1st East Lancashire Regiment, who was killed in action in France on July 9th. In his last letter to his wife at 7, Queen Street, Barnoldswick, he said they were in an awful place, and were being shelled day and night. He added, "They don't know half of what we are going through in England." The widow and family have received a letter signed by Lord Kitchener conveying "the true sympathy of His Majesty and the Queen in your sorrow."
Article Date: 24 December 1915
CRAVEN'S ROLL OF HONOUR - BARNOLDSWICK
Pte. H. Bramall, 1st East Lancashire Regiment, killed in France July 9th. Left a widow
Article Date: 07 July 1916
BRAMALL - In loving memory of my dear husband, Pte. H. Bramall, killed at Ypres, July 9, 1915.
Sad thoughts they linger round my heart,
While tears they often flow,
And to that sad and silent grave
My thoughts they often go.
From his Wife and Child 7, Queen Street, Barnoldswick.
Article Date: 20 October 1916
BARNOLDSWICK - LETTERS FROM DEAD MEN
A few days ago Mrs. H. Bramall, 7, Queen Street, Barnoldswick, experienced a surprise at receiving by post from France a small parcel addressed in a well-known hand, containing two small empty toffee tins, such as are regularly sent out to men at the Front. Inside one of the tins were two letters, one from her husband, Pte. H. Bramall (East Lancashires) who was killed in July, 1915, and the other from Pte. Vincent Eccleston, of the same regiment, who met a similar fate a month earlier. The date on the Field Postmark is indecipherable, but both letters (which are also undated) were addressed from the base at Le Havre before either of the writers went up to the firing line in January 1915. Wherever the parcel had lain during the long interval - whether 'Somewhere in France' or in England - will probably never be known, but it reached its destination in a state of good preservation.
Article Date: 06 July 1917
BRAMALL - In loving memory of my dear husband, Private H. Bramall, killed in action in France, July 9th 1915.
There is a link that death cannot sever -
Love and remembrance last forever.
From his Wife and Child, 7, Queen Street, Barnoldswick
Article Date: 12 July 1918
BRAMALL - In loving memory of my dear husband, Private H. Bramall, 1st East Lancs. Regiment, killed in action July 9th, 1915.
"Hearts that loved him never forget."
From his Wife and Child, 1 Queen Street, Barnoldswick.
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thomo
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 14:47
Surname: BRIDGE
Forename(s): Ratcliffe
Place of Birth: Blackburn, Lancashire
Residence: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Service No: 15511
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion/Unit: 2/5th Battalion
Division: 55th (West Lancashire) Division
Age: 24
Date of Death: 1918-03-17
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: VI. F. 11.
CWGC Cemetery: GORRE BRITISH AND INDIAN CEMETERY
CWGC Memorial: -----
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
Brother of Thomas Edward George Bridge (31166).
Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
PRIVATE RATCLIFFE BRIDGE, Lancashire Fusiliers, son of Mr. & Mrs. W. Bridge, Lower West Avenue, Barnoldswick, killed in action 17th March, 1918. Aged 24 years.
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
BRIDGE, Ratcliffe, aged 24 years, Lancashire Fusiliers, 18, Lower West Avenue, [Barnoldswick], killed in action March 17, 1918.
Article Date: 05 April 1918
BARNOLDSWICK CROSS COUNTRY RUNNER FALLS
Private Ratcliffe Bridge, Lancashire Fusiliers, officially reported killed in action on the 17th ultimo, was the son of Mr. and Mrs. William Bridge, 18 Lower West Avenue. He enlisted over three years since, but did not go out to France until July last, and was wounded in the September advance. He was 24 years of age, and a weaver by occupation. Prior to joining the army he was a well known cross country runner and a member of the Blackburn Harriers, of which town he was a native.
Article Date: 05 April 1918
BRIDGE - Killed in action, March 17th, Pte. Ratcliffe Bridge, Lancashire Fusiliers, son of Mr. and Mrs. Wm. Bridge, 18, Lower West Avenue, Barnoldswick, aged 24.
Article Date: 17 May 1918
CRAVEN AND THE WAR
Pte. T. Bridge, Barnoldswick
Mr. and Mrs. William Bridge, 18, Lower West Avenue, Barnoldswick, have lost a second son in the war by the death of Pte. Thos. Bridge, East Lancashire Regiment, who was killed on April 16th, five weeks after his arrival in France. He was only 19 years of age, and formerly employed by Messrs. Wm. Bailey Ltd., Wellhouse Mill. His brother, Pte. Ratcliffe Bridge, was killed on March 17th, while another brother has had three years service in France.
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 16:49
In order, Andy, thanks for the comment.
Chris, yes got your message, will email the stuff to you tonight.
Peter, so that's what it means, we must have a lot of masons down at Ghyll. Ok on the East west orientation as well.
I have just finished distribution in the cemetery and I can report that I found and marked two more that we all missed yesterday. I will post the names up tonight when I can unfold my sheet of paper I wrote them down on. Fine drizzle all afternoon, proper wet when I got home, same as the bit of paper, came away when I lost the light (which seemed to be a bit early today).
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thomo
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 17:18
Great stuff Ian. I am on the last leg of the second scan "W"s. its amazing what passes before the old eyes, how about this for a "Handle"
Eustace Arundel De St Barbe Sladen (Watkins)!!!!
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thomo
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 17:49
Pte, Ankers plot improvement required.
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Chris CPGW
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 18:18
Thanks for posting the image of the grave Peter.
I've sent some files pertaining to Wilfred to Terry Denham of the In From The Cold project and I'm awaiting further instruction, when I learn a bit more I shall post it up on this thread., but at least the ball is now rolling.
When I talked to Terry about waiting to see if any of Wilfred's relation's were still in the area and if so to seeking their permission before going ahead he wrote
Chris The commemoration does not require any approval. In fact it must happen regardless of any NoK wishes. CWGC has no discretion in the matter and must commemorate all qualifying casualties by order of their Royal Charter. On a few occasions NoK have requested that no commemoration takes place but they have had to refuse this request from the NoK. Regards Terry
I Wasn't aware that the CWGC took this stance, so I thought it might be of interest to other forum members.
Regards
Chris
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 19:19
That's very interesting Chris. I just asked the question about tracing relatives in my mail to you. I have attached my pictures and the Council record for Wilfreds plot which has all the relative information for the location and owner.
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Travis
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 19:52
Now this is good news, cautious, but good. Nothing would please me better than to see Wilfs name on a CWGC headstone...it just feels proper.
Brilliant, Andy.
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