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Stanley
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The place to tell us about your favourite walks and tall tales about rambling.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk
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moh
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Posted - 17/03/2009 : 11:51
What lovely photos - shame I cannot do long walks any more.
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handlamp
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Posted - 17/03/2009 : 16:14
Marvellous!!! Thank you. Brought back many happy memories..
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panbiker
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Posted - 17/03/2009 : 18:12
I thought you might like that Ted, glad you enjoyed.
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Stanley
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Posted - 18/03/2009 : 16:39
I don't know if you can still do it but if you drive down the road from Arisaig towards Fort William for about two miles there is a small gate in the wall on the right. If you go in there it's a wild garden made in the 1920s by an industrialist who collected plants from all over the world. He had started building a house up near the road when he was wiped out by the 1926 crash. It's been sitting there ever since and they tell me that if you understand botany it is a dream come true. I don't but still recognised that it was a special place. About 40 acres of it and cared for by a university, Aberdeen? If you are passing, go in and have a wander.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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wendyf
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Posted - 25/03/2009 : 09:04
Took one of my favourite walks yesterday before the weather deteriorated. This one is a regular weekly walk with a neighbour who lives at Hainslack just over the hill from our place. We just call it the Round Kelbrook Moor Walk.
I set out from house and follow the footpath behind Brown Hill Farm. In the next field below the farm there are some signs of ancient field boundaries, with ruined walls and deep ditches. This land once belonged to Kitchen farm, one of the oldest in Harden. I have a copy of an agreement between John Shackleton Senr. and John Shackleton Junr. his son, both of Harden, dated 22nd November 1670 stating that the father is allowed to occupy all "the Messuage and Tenement wherein he doth now dwell (excepting one room called the Kitchen and one other room called the Milkhouse) and also one barn....allowing ...John the son room for his goods....his hay and corn"
Soon after the farm is described as "Kitchen".
I meet my friend at a sharp bend on the Kitchen track, which is something of a landmark since it was concreted a few years ago, and can be seen from miles away as it snakes down the hillside!
We follow the track past Kitchen, and further down to meet the Pendle Way at Harden Clough Farm. This property was probably the one which William Pollard left to his daughter Grace in his will of 1655. Grace was married to Robert Parker of Briercliffe. Later on it came into the ownership of Stephen Bannister, and then Richard Wainman aquired it in 1766 for £350.
The path takes you through the magnificent garden of Harden Clough and then over a stile into the fields at the bottom of "Black Harden" where the Pendle Way goes off to the right but we go straight on to Harden New Hall. This was probably built towards the end of the 18th century by Richard Wainman who owned much of the land in Harden by that time. There is only a barn marked on a hand drawn field map from about 1780 which lists all the field names and acreages. Henry Edmundson was the tenant in 1813 when Wm Wainman agreed to pay for "400 load of well burnt limestone" for one of his fields.
back on the track now we pass round the bottom of "Roger Moor" through Green Harden and High Harden.
In 1852 the Wainman family were being persuaded to sell land in Harden to create a 2 acre reservoir for Kelbrook Mill. Henry Alcock of Skipton proposed a dam in the Clough below Copy Farm. "...as farming land I believe it is not worth much as it is a complete swamp but of course I should be glad to pay a fair price for it...."
W B Wainman suggested the land was leased at a rent of £10.00 a year, but nothing must have come of it.
I'll get back to my walk later.... must get some jobs done.
wendy
Edited by - wendyf on 25/03/2009 09:06:51 AM
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Posted - 25/03/2009 : 11:07
The track curves gently round the moor ( the view opening up over to Whitemoor, Blacko Tower and Pendle) till it meets Cob Lane at Thick Bank Farm. If we went to the right the lane goes down into Kelbrook past Moor Gate, or the old pack horse route (which is the continuation of Cob Lane) goes straight down to Dotcliffe. This was an old road from Thornton heading towards Colne and then on to Halifax.
We turn left up the narrow lane heading towards Noyna Rocks, but turn left before the top to go up the road to Kelbrook Gun Club. This is part of a road built by Teddy Carr to get directly from Accornlea Hall to his rather fancy shooting lodge on Kelbrook Moor. Passing the now derelict Laycocks (once called Higher Hague Farm), the nerve wracking bit of the walk starts as we march quickly down the track past the modern gun club. All credit to my little dog, who clamps his ear flaps tight down and gets past without a panic attack!
Leaving the farm track we go over a stile and carry straight on up the side of the ancient Kelbrook Wood following the line of the old county boundary up towards what was Copy Farm (now called Harwes). In the wall behind the farm is the old Tom Cross and beneath it the "dissenters well". There is evidence that the path we are following was an old road between Foulridge and Hainslack, but not enough to convince the County Council to open it as a bridleway, it runs behind Piked Edge and then follows the old boundary ditch across a field to join the old Colne to Skipton Road at Hainslack on the top of Burnt Hill. This is where the old Howshaw Toll Bar used to be. It was torn down by local farmers who refused to pay tolls after the new Colne to Skipton road was built through Kelbrook & Earby. This is where I say goodbye to my friend who lives at Hainslack (always in Lancashire and owned for generations by the Lords of the Manor of Colne) and head home either on the main road or back on the Kitchen track and down through the fields. Either way I pass Higher Burnt Hill farm, bought by William Wainman in about 1802, together with areas of land either side of the road called "The Dole". Looking across the big dip in the road yesterday it was easy to see why the area towards Bleara was called Sandbeds. The barley planted last autumn hasn't come up, leaving bare fields showing swathes of sandy soil either side of the road.
This walk could be done from Kelbrook, or starting from the top of the Kitchen track, or even the pub at Black Lane Ends.
wendy
Edited by - wendyf on 26/03/2009 07:44:08 AM
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Stanley
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 07:20
Years ago I walked up behind Kelbrook and there was a small reservoir there which I assumed supplied Kelbrook water at one time.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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wendyf
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 07:39
There was a large circular collection tank up there which was removed a few years ago. Perhaps there was a reservoir before that...back to the 1940's aerial photos!
Wendy
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Stanley
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 09:41
I think that's what I saw, it would be in the late 1960s and if memory serves me right it was above ground, stone walled and circular. There was another one for Earby up Stonebank, I wonder if that is still used. I always wondered about that one because in those days Armoride used to burn their plasic waste in a quarry above the reservoir and as we all now know this was extremely dangerous, dioxins I think. I know they stopped and installed an incinerator at the works but it didn't fulfill the contract and so it was taken out and the cost reclaimed. What happened to the waste after that is beyond my ken...
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Another
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 15:09
Comrade, Alfred Green from Fence used to remove waste from Armoride in the early '70's and it presumably went into landfill.
There was surpringly little plastics waste as most was re-cycled back into the process - as I well recall from cutting up dozens of faulty rolls of plastic sheeting used for everything from baby pants to car panels. It was then fed back into the calender melted down and re-processed to produce new batches.
Waste cushioned floor covering material they produced with backing on usually ended up on Bradford market ... as did quite a bit of the new stuff. Nolic
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 15:15
Gus posted somewhere a couple of months ago about the large cylindrical stone posts that abound around the Stew Mill and thought they were from bore holes. I said I thought they were connected to the WW 2 pill box that used to stand on the main road near to Whitemoor Res. and were possibly concrete tank obstacles.
I came home from Hudderfield over Widdop Moor yesterday and noticed for the first time that all around the pill box on Halifax Road near to Coldwell are similar structures set into the banking which I think bears out my assertion of connections with WW2 defences. Nolic
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 17:15
I would concur Nolic, I have always regarded the objects as Tank Traps. I seem to remember some over by the where the pill box was at the road junction at Barley.
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 17:25
Stanley are you thinking of Inverewe gardens ??
http://www.aboutscotland.co.uk/land/inverewe.html
No I got that wrong just that I love Arisaig it is such a great place. When I feel the need for Steam, I go to Fort William for the train up to Mallaig over the Glenfinnan Viaduct some of the best scenery in the world. I will ask a friend of ours about the Garden she used to live in Arisaig.
Only problem with the West Coast ( Highlands) is the midiges in the summer months
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Posted - 26/03/2009 : 19:28
Totally off topic but seeing as this the stuck top thread, heres a heads up for Doc/Stanley.
http://www.oneguyfrombarlick.co.uk/forum_topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8295&FORUM_ID=6&CAT_ID=5&Topic_Title=OGFB+Time+problem+%3F&Forum_Title=One+Guy+From+Barlick+Web+Site
Need computer work ?
"http://www.stsr.co.uk" 
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Stanley
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Posted - 27/03/2009 : 07:01
Those concrete blocks were to stop tanks. They were made round so they could be rolled into position if needed. I remember them well....
Frank, OS reference is NM 673865. The unfinished house is opposite the point where the railway is near the road and the gate is about 100 yards back towards Arisaig. Marvellous place...
Stanley Challenger Graham
Barlick View
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