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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
NEW VERSION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MEMBERS WITH SLOW CONNECTIONS TO CONNECT.

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Whyperion
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 23:28
So , if earthquakes are likely to happen , why go build and live in that location , surely safer to move a bit and change how you are building?


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Bradders
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 23:58
Until relatively recently , who knew where earthquakes were going to happen ?
..or (even now) when ?



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Stanley
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 04:02
Quite Bradders. Now we know about tectonic plates and have them mapped we can be sure of some things. The one that always strikes me is the Istanbul area. A series of serious quakes has been moving westwards along the fault line towards the city and it is certain that very shortly (in terms of gelogical time) they are going to have a big one.

Had a day off from shed and longer walk to Letcliffe and my knees were much improved. Are they trying to tell me something?


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catgate
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 11:36


quote:
Bodger wrote:
Believe it or not there is no such thing as God, it was a figment of  someones imagination, a bit like double gazing salesmen, selling something you dont want, and you can live without.

Do you mean to say you do not believe in the existence of double glazing salesmen??


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Tizer
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Posted - 24/12/2011 : 12:13
quote:
Whyperion wrote:
So , if earthquakes are likely to happen , why go build and live in that location , surely safer to move a bit and change how you are building?
Whippy, people build and live there because earthquake-prone and volcanically active areas are often very attractive to humans, besides the basic need for humans to find places to spread into as the population increased over the centuries. Big earthquakes happen along tectonic boundaries where the plates of the earth's crust slide against each other, or one plate slides under the other. Volcanoes occur in these areas because the hot magma can find a way out through the crust to the surface. Volcanoes produce lava which gives rise to excellent soil of very high fertility and this has always attracted humans who are willing to risk losing their homes and crops, or even their lives, to get access to such productive soil. Also, those regions are often blessed with beautiful scenery which again attracts humans to live there.



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Stanley
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Posted - 25/12/2011 : 06:20
Tiz, same thing applies to flood plains.....

Just heard a report that the Pope gave his christmas homily in St Peter's advocating abstinence and avoidance of the glitter and conspicuous consumption. He was clothed in incredible cream and white bling and stood on a gilded patform. Some things never change......


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Tizer
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Posted - 25/12/2011 : 11:16
...but I'm glad some things do. I was listening this morning to a recording of one of those postal office history programmes on the radio and it told about the postal strike in 1890. At the time, one of the typical town post offices had 50 men working there and two toilets - one for the supervisor and one for the other 49 men. I suppose it was regarded as a bog standard arrangement in those days!


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Stanley
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Posted - 26/12/2011 : 06:44
I see that yesterday was the third warmest Xmas Day on record. However, not as warm as this:



Margaret having Xmas dinner at sister Janet's. Quiet do, only 20 of them! Janet sent me pics this morning of everyone and so good to see them all happy and well and filling their faces in the sunshine.


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catgate
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Posted - 27/12/2011 : 11:56
 It is all just one big "dis".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/8978458/10m-cost-of-turning-off-wind-farms.html


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pluggy
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Posted - 27/12/2011 : 13:44
What did you expect ?  The load has to be balanced one way or another and if you've got a glut of wind power at a low demand point, it becomes inevitable some of them will be shut down sometimes and since they are being built with private money who are contracted to receive so much for their troubles, they will be compensated for when they aren't earning.  

10 million quid a year is insignificant on a national power scale.  Take base load at 20 GW and assume an average-ish point price of 5p per KWh, that comes out at a million quid an hour  somebody is being paid. At average load of 40GW its 2 million quid an hour. It isn't newsworthy when you put it in context (like much of the stuff published in newspapers).

Whats wrong with the 'Power to the people' thread where this is more relevent ?


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catgate
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Posted - 27/12/2011 : 15:59


quote:
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What did you expect ?  The load has to be balanced one way or another and if you've got a glut of wind power at a low demand point, it becomes inevitable some of them will be shut down sometimes and since they are being built with private money who are contracted to receive so much for their troubles, they will be compensated for when they aren't earning.  

10 million quid a year is insignificant on a national power scale.
 Take base load at 20 GW and assume an average-ish point price of 5p per KWh, that comes out at a million quid an hour  somebody is being paid. At average load of 40GW its 2 million quid an hour. It isn't newsworthy when you put it in context (like much of the stuff published in newspapers).

Whats wrong with the 'Power to the people' thread where this is more relevent ?

I could not find it.....I wondered if someone had erased it.

Just I million quid a year is significant when added to all the other "insignificant" millions that our happy band of n'er do wells seem prepared to throw away on the slightest whim of a passing lobbyists


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Tizer
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Posted - 27/12/2011 : 16:53
Before the government gets too carried away with funding renewable energy it should make some effort to prevent the enormous waste of energy that goes on at present due to out of date or inappropriate legislation. For example, it is still allowable to build a conservatory with *single-glazing* and then heat it up to 20 degrees in the depths of winter using fossil fuel. Even a double-glazed conservatory loses many times more heat than a normal room in the house does, even if its a room with a poorly insulated external wall. It's even worse if the consertvatory were open to the rest of the house, i.e. no doors to close it off (although you wouldn't be allowed to use single-glazing in that case). We waste masses of heat all the time.

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pluggy
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Posted - 27/12/2011 : 17:03
> 20p for  each UK resident per year. Or considerably less than the cost of one issue of the Telegraph.........

Power for the people link 

Everybody on here used to whinge non stop about "Godron" , Now everyone is whinging non stop about Cameron and his cronies.  Which is exactly why I have little interest in Politics.  Its the government, its what most people wanted, live with it......


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catgate
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Posted - 27/12/2011 : 19:36


quote:
pluggy wrote:

Power for the people link 


Well, now then. How silly of me not to look under "Local History". Will I never learn???


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Big Kev
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Posted - 27/12/2011 : 20:36


quote:
catgate wrote:


quote:
pluggy wrote:

Power for the people link 


Well, now then. How silly of me not to look under "Local History". Will I never learn???

Where else would you expect to find it?


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