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Flutterby
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Posted -  09/12/2006  :  10:22
I love painting and am a local amateur painter have got an N.V.Q. Level 4. I sell  locally but not recently. I work as an Art technican,  which involves  allsorts really! I think more should be done in schools as painting is a good way of helping children communicate and deal with stress, adults too !
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melteaser
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Posted - 03/01/2007 : 18:49

Wow! I can't even draw a matchstick man!




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Flutterby
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Posted - 03/01/2007 : 19:06

Have a go you will be suprised with what you can do!

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Sue
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Posted - 03/01/2007 : 19:48

Thanks for the complimentsI have a good teacher, he takes us through it step by step. Next class next week

Sue




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Traycle Mine Overseer


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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 08:32
 I'm at home today so will try and post some simple figure styles from a book by Keith Fenwick that are easy and look fine as medium to far distant characters. Nolic



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belle
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 09:08

Tried to reply to this topic yesterday, but my PC was playing up.

Sue,  I am also on SAA , i have a web site there which shows quite a few of my pics....and a rather obscure pic of me.if you send me a p.m ( that goes for anyone) I will give you my painting name and you can look me up. i have tried deperately to insert images into my topics, but when I use the icon above, I get a box asking for the URL no. and a load of latin script, can anyone give me simple instructions on how to insert an image into a posting... I feel like i am the only one who can't do it.




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TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 09:16
I had that trouble yesterday,only on this topic ,???,wonderful paintings,i thought the seascape was a photograph at first,makes mine look like a childish scribble.


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belle
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 09:35
No, Tom, the reply I wrote yesterday was about your pic. I thought you captured the fig climbing very well , and the second try, where you moved the chimney, improved the composition very well. There is great charm in your pictures, don't be discouraged, Sue's are lovely too but she is the first to make the point that these are works done with a teacher taking them throught it step by step, a very different procedure. Interestingly my friend did a watercolour class a couple of years or so ago and she produced a snow scene of hills, almost identical to Sue's, it must be the same procedure, might even have been the same teacher.


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Sue
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 10:51

Belle I went to my picture in Photos here, copied the URL number at the bottom of the picture and pasted it in. It worked but was huge.I tried making it smaller by dragging in the corners but went wrong somewhere. We could do with a lesson on what to do

Tom I find your pictures stunningly atmospheric, they are originals done by yoy. Mine are copies with me being guided through step by step. I wish I could do originals. I am going to tackle some photos that I have taken specifically for the purpose. I tried a couple when I was in France but the paper was no good. I haven't had chance since I came home two weeks ago

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Sue
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 11:34

Something else Tom. You were prepared to show everyone your first attempt. I kept my first attempt  hidden

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Traycle Mine Overseer


6250 Posts
Posted - 04/01/2007 : 12:05
 One of my Xmas presents was a Ken Bromley paper stretcher - which I have yet to try. The principle is that you can use lighter(cheaper) papaers and by streching them they won't cockle and roll up. Have a look at his web site - selling W&N artists quality paints at 40percent off. Some are as cheap as 50p for the 5ml tubes. Nolic



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Sue
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 12:12

Have a paper stretcher too Nolic. Superb invention, so easy to use too

 Sue




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belle
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 16:13
I find the wetting of paper and sticking it to a board, the worst bit of watercolour painting. Have you two tried the method where you wet the board and the paper and just let the surface tension of the water hold the paper onto the board. It's great if you want to paint quickly. I think I will invest in some water colour blocks so I don't have to go through the procedure, but are they any good? How does a paper stretcher work?


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belle
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 16:22
Don't seem to have a URL on my photo's Sue. They are jpeg. i can get details about their dimension etc to come up but no URL. What now?Edited by - belle on 04 January 2007 16:26:31

Edited by - belle on 04 January 2007 16:28:14


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Traycle Mine Overseer


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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 17:03
 I've never tried blocks mainly because of the cost but I have used heavy weight papers that still  cost a bomb - even the Cotman 200lb range.  I've tried all methods of stretching with varying success in terms of the paper but usually difficulty in removing all gummed tape etc.

Ken Bromley's site www.artsupplies.co.uk has a video showing how the stretcher works. Its basically a board with grooves around the edge. You place your well soaked paper over the board with an overlap of about 3/4" all round and smooth the papar out.. The paper is streched by gently hammering plastic rods into the groove trapping the paper and holding it very tight. When dry the paper is drum tight with no cockling.   Any one with reasonable DIY skills and a groove cutter would be able to make on for a couple of pounds. I've got the smallest version but I can see myself  having a go at making a larger one.  Nolic



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Sue
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Posted - 04/01/2007 : 17:14

It takes 5 minutes maximum. from start to finish. I use a steak hammer to hammer the plastic rods in! In my Art class someones husband used to make them, just as Nolic said. He used thick wire in place of the rods.. It really works the paper stays tight all the way through the paining process. It is also easy to handle. You can either cut the picture off at the end or take out the rods. Once the paer is mounted in the block it is also very easy to transport. I take mine paer to my class already mounted, covering it with clean sheets of whit paper in transit. I carry the finished picture home in the same way

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