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peteaharrison
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Posted -  04/12/2005  :  17:29

I was born in 1945 and lived at 10 North Street, Barlick.   Park Road then seemed to be populated almost exclusively by members of my family....at 46 Park Road my grandmother Eleanor (Nellie) Harrison lived with her sister Edna Bowker, and at different times, other sisters including most recently (till 1989) Grace Simpson.   Grace previously lived further down Park Road with her husband Alf Simpson (at one time Chairman of Barlick UDC)....their son Jack and his wife Shirley also had a house in Park Road, and Alf's brother Billy Simpson (married to Bell another of my grandmother' sisters) had the Butcher's shop in Park Road.

I have fond memories of catching Sticklebacks and Bullheads in 'Cloggers Beck' and lackin' (playing) in an area between North Street and Forty Steps....I remember there used to be a big wooden shed next to the rough track going down to Forty Steps, and at one time it contained a huge fabricated shoe that I think was built for a stage production which included "The Old Woman who lived in a shoe".   On some occasions we go up Esp Lane to 'The Springs' which was then farmed by my great uncle Maurice Dewhurst (formerly married to another of my grandmother's sisters Annie).

I recall my friends from North Street included the Warrington lads, the Bracewell sisters, Wright, Broughton and Peckover boys.

I have a vague memory that, as a family, my brother John and I with our father and mother Frank and Joyce Harrison used to call in on folk living in Gisburn Road.   I feel that it could have been 203 Gisburn Road which is an address on funeral cards relating to Francis and Rose Harrison my great grandparents.....it seems that they perhaps ran a grocery shop or similar at that address.    In the vagueness of early memories I also associate the name 'Auntie Liza' with the same area.....this lady is Elizabeth (nee Harrison - I'm unsure of her married name).....I would  be most grateful for any information regarding this Gisburn Road reference.

In the early 1950s my family moved to the south coast and my grandmother used to post a copy of 'The Dalesman' each month.  There was a cartoon character called Young Fred who'd get up to some mischievious antics.....it was captioned in dialect and after a couple of years I began to have a little difficulty in figuring out what it said....but in my defence I think it did get rather extreme at that time.     It reminds me of an occasion when I returned 'up north' with my wife on holiday, staying with my uncle Jack in Cowling.    The holiday was in late July/early August and on a day which happened to be the 12th of August (the 'Glorious 12th') we had lunch in a moorland Pub.  Sitting in the inglenook was a chap with a girt stick and a Collie dog - Jack goes over to him......"Na then" says Jack "how't shooting going".   Now Jack had a wonderful strong accent......but when this chap started to answer - at length and with an even more pronounced accent  - Jack would from time to time nod and say 'Aye' or 'Na then'.    Eventually Jack returned to our table and, looking somewhat embarrassed, he said  "I couldn't understand a ruddy word he said".....

A bit early but.....Christmas Greetings.

 

     



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Posted - 01/04/2007 : 12:59
 MJB, from what you say you seem to remember Siletnight at Clough Mill. Can you remember if there was a big fire there in the mid 1950's? Nolic



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peteaharrison
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Posted - 01/04/2007 : 19:09

Your memory is pretty good Margaret, that is Barry Broughton....and the Pixi hatted lad is Bill Wright (I must admit to having been prompted on the identity of both lads by my brother who's a little older than me)....and I was rather touched to read your comments regarding the concern within the community at the time of my illness and by your remembering my dear late Mum, Joyce 'Green'....thank you so much for that.

On a return trip to Barlick in about 1990, I took my ladyfriend to see my former family home in North Street, and decided to take the walk to Forty Steps, expecting to find that everything had dramatically changed since 1953.  As we approached the top of James Street, I said "When I was a lad there used to be a stile here, then we'd turn left onto a rough track with dry-stone walls either side" And that's what we found!.....it hadn't changed at all....there wasn't a Tesco or housing development there as I'd anticipated - alright, it probably has by now.....don't tell me....I'd rather remember it as it was.

Then we went on to the waterfall at the bottom of Forty Steps.  As a child I used to hold on to the railings and stand there terrified by the thunderous roar of.....what turned out to be a trickle of water falling about five feet onto an old tyre.....but that didn't affect my memory of what it used to be like when I was a kid. 

I have this image in my mind of a beck where we'd catch sticklebacks and redbellies....it was in that area, near the waterfall.....there was a huge dark cavernous place enclosed and overhung by foliage - was that Ouzledale?

Here's Forty Steps as it used to be (in black and white of course in those days).  I hope Ken will excuse me for manipulating his 2004 photograph.....taking out the litter bin and handrails....



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mj.berry
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Posted - 01/04/2007 : 21:29
Nolic, I can’t remember a fire at Clough, but I know the trees came down in 1954 as I was in the 1st year at Barlick Modern (now West Craven) and I used to rush home from school to see which trees had been felled that day. I left school at 15 yrs (1958) and worked for Armorides in Earby for about 18 months, in that time the fire bug was about. We used to walk around Earby in our lunch hour and there were detectives all over the place. I had to make a statement at Barlick Police Station to say that I was at the cinema on a particular day, with a certain young man who was under suspicion. I never heard of anyone being caught though.

Now Pete, back to the photo, there are only two more kids on there who haven’t been identified. The lad next to Neville and the little fair one at the front – come on, let us know. Was it the Wright family who lived at the other end of your row?

A great photo of forty steps, it hasn’t changed much on the left but there are a lot of new houses on the right. One of my earliest memories is of the clogs clattering down the steps when workers were coming home from Bancroft. I live in the Midlands now and like you I wander around when I visit.  What other photo’s have you tucked away? I’ll have to raid my dad’s box and see what I can find. Yes he’s still alive and kicking, 91 this year.

Marg.



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peteaharrison
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 00:28

Margaret....yes, the Wright family lived at the other end of our row....the "little fair one at the front" is Peter Wright (Bill's brother) and the lad with the dark T-shirt next to Neville is Simon Carrington, one of Sargeant Carrington's sons from the Police Station down North Street.

Regarding the photograph of Forty Steps, I did acknowledge that it wasn't taken by me, I "pinched" it from this site (taken by Ken in 2004), changed the original from colour to black and white, and took out some modern bits and pieces so that it looked similar to how it would have been when we played there. 

I had intended to refer to a building in the original photo of us kids but forgot to.  You mentioned it, the Sunday School where I remember "Hear the pennies dropping" being sung....and picking Goosegogs by leaning over the fence by the pathway leading round to the front of Ivy Terrace. 

In a previous message I said : - "I have this image in my mind of a beck where we'd catch sticklebacks and redbellies....it was in that area, near the waterfall.....there was a huge dark cavernous place enclosed and overhung by foliage - was that Ouzledale?" referring to the Forty Steps area....is that where Ouzledale was?

Good to hear about your Dad....tell him "thanks for the peas!" :--) 




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marilyn
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 05:00

I have only just caught up with this topic. I know, I know....I am somewhat slow. i think it was the dates in the title that caused me not to bother before...as I am a 1959 model...not late 40's or early 50's! (I do however have three older siblings....and the oldest was born in 52)

I decided to print the whole topic out....it came to 18 pages. I then took my coffee and had a quiet sit in the sunshine in the back garden to read it (always plenty of sunshine in an Australian back garden).

I have been fascinated from start to finish. I have few memories of Barlick as I was just over four and a half when we 'upped sticks' (probably an Australianism there) and sailed for OZ. The only memory I have is the direct environment of our last home in Colne Road, where we lived back-to-back with our Gran.

It seems to me that you all had such wonderfully wholesome childhoods.I have so enjoyed all of your snippets and rememberings! Can't help feeling a tad sad that we missed out on all this either. Hope there are more stories to come....




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Bruff
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 11:48
Blimey!! That photo of the children on North Street has my dad in it. Neville Broughton, the lad at the back with the white shirt on, and his arms folded - he'd be 13 then. And there's Dorothy Bracewell next to him - she hasn't changed, and neither has Nev really.

Many, many thanks for posting that Pete - it's made my day.


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peteaharrison
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 13:54

So....yes, that's who the North Street/ Ivy Terrace kids in the 1952(ish) photographs are..... 

At the back : -      Margaret Aldersley          Dorothy Bracewell             Neville Broughton

Middle : -    John Harrison         Pete Harrison           Michael Peckover           Simon Carrington

Front : -        Bill Wright             Peter Wright            Barry Broughton               Sylvia Bracewell

Thanks to brother John (he's got an incredible memory.....he thinks he can remember being born!) for naming those I couldn't place.  I remembered all except Bill and Barry, and had the Bracewell sisters the wrong way round.

I wonder what Mervyn and Graham Warrington were doing on that day.....




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Stanley
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 16:13
I took Dorothy a copy of the pic today on my way up to Letcliffe.  She'd never seen it before.....


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mj.berry
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Posted - 02/04/2007 : 16:20

Well done Stanley, I was going to send her one through the post but no need to now.  I'll just give her a ring to see if she can add any more to our childhood memories.

Marg.




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Stanley
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 07:24
Strike while the iron is hot, she was fascinated by it and said that it was taken outside their back door and she wondered where all the others were that day as the street was full of kids who played together in those days.  She said she'd forgotten the tin tabernacle where they went to Guides......


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mj.berry
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 13:17

Pete, I rang Dorothy yesterday and we're not sure which of the Carrington lads it is. Simon was Sylvia’s age, Martin was the oldest, the same age as Neville, so we came the conclusion it must be him.  Bruff - one for your dad to sort out.
As for the Warrington lads, I don't know about then but she thinks they are in the Blackpool area now. Some of the others who were around at the time were John, Christine and William Brown and Peter Thompson and my sister Kath.

Marg.




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thomo
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 00:40
Hi, I work accross the road from what was Rainhall Road School or what was often called the Wesleyian School and I went there from 1944 to 1947. Miss Ogden was then Head Teacher and the only other name I recall was Miss Carradice. Other names will no doubt fall out of the files in my head marked "not urgent" but two other pupils come up now, Trevor Stapleton of Havre Park and Kathleen Jenkinson whose parents may have run the little shop which later became Wellock and Sagars, the little shop which always smelled of freshly ground coffee. Others may have been David Steele, Richard Rawsthorne and Jackie Pomfret. The aforementioned other son of Police Sergeant Carrington would have been Martin Vizard Carrington who left my class at Barlick Modern aged 14 to become a Royal Marine Bandsman. The late Roger Stansfield was born 13th of January 1940. I also recall carrying a gas mask to school and that in the afternoon we would lie down for about an hour on little camp beds. The Peter Thompson you refer to will be the other one, not I, he is a couple of years older, elder brother of Graham who worked all his life for Boltons Decorations. At Barlick Modern I was sent for by the nurse every three months to have drops put in my eyes, this went on for two and a half years and was quite painful. at the last visit she asked "where are your glasses"? I had never worn glasses, thus the Peter you speak of had been deprived of eye care for the duration.


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HerbSG
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 01:30
I was in the last year at Church school with Roger, probably in 1950.


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mporter
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 02:21
Rogers daughter lives in Sydney with her daughter and is hoping to come to Perth for a break later this year and will visit us.  His son is married with 2 or 3 children and lives and works in Clitheroe.


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Stanley
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Posted - 04/04/2007 : 05:43
See what one pic will drag out of the woodwork?  Find some more.....  they are out there, just needs a bit of digging.


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