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Tizer
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Posted -  21/12/2007  :  11:56
I have uploaded my first picture to the Barlick site I hope to be able to add it in this thread if/when it gets approval from Doc. It is a postcard from the 1940s entitled Winged Heroes and showing Hawker Hurricanes. (The picture is in the next post if you are on page 1 of the thread; if you are on another page you need to go back tp page 1 to see it.)

Please feel free to add your own stories, pictures or comments regarding everything to do with aeroplanes and their pilots, both past and present.

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panbiker
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Posted - 27/05/2008 : 22:54
We picked up a few copies of the letter at the dance, signed one each and sent them to the Chairman of the Civil Aviation Authority. We have also sent a copy to our M.P. Gordon Prentice. The DC3 is probably the most iconic of the aircraft that will fall foul of this if something is not done.
The legislation is only applicable to commercial aircraft so ZA947 "Pegasus" of the BBMF should be safe. It has just been fitted with original 1940's paratroopers seats for use in it's role as transport and drop aircraft for the Red Devils. It made an appearance at the Haworth weekend and apparently overflew Barlick en route. Less than 5 weeks now and it will be back doing it's stuff for us at our 40's day.



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Posted - 28/05/2008 : 06:42
Depressing isn't it that there is such a lack of imagination in the caves where the bureacrats live.......


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Posted - 28/05/2008 : 15:13
  Dakota of Royal Flight in 1945

Well just to cheer you all up, here is an image copied from part of a Postal Cover I have in my small collection. It shows Douglas Dakota MkIV KN386 used for the Royal Flight by King George VI. Stationed with 24 Squadron at Hendon in June 1945.

The Postal Cover was issued for the visit of HRH Princess Royal to Southern Africa on 20th February 1991. The envelope is signed by Wing Commander N.E.L. Beresford who commanded the Royal Flight in 1991 and the Hon. Mrs M. Louloudis, assistant private secretary to the Princess Royal. The 1991 flight was in BAe 146 ZE 702 of The Queen's Flight.

 


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Posted - 07/07/2008 : 21:24
Been a bit busy with our 40's day event at the end of last month so I have not been able to post this until now. The EU-OPS petition that we subscribed to the other month seems to have stirred some departments into life.

We received a reply from Sir Roy McNulty, the Chairman of the CAA at the end of May.

"Thank you for your recent letter concerning the future commercial operations of Douglas Dakota aeroplanes, and also for your support of the CAA's continuing effort to gain derogation from part of the provisions of EU-OPS. I have provided an update on the situation, for your information below".

The letter went on to say that the CAA and DfT had written to the European Commission and would be attending meetings with the European Commissions Air Safety Committee. Also that a number of other European States were in support and that Germany had submitted an agenda point identical to ours. It went on to say that they were confident that a means would be found to allow aeroplanes like the Dakota to continue to operate for commercial purposes.

We received further mail from our MP Gordon Prentice on the 4th July. He contacted Ruth Kelly on the 12th June to raise our concerns. This was forwarded along with our letter to the Transport Minister Jim Fitzpatrick MP. He replied to Gordon on the 30th June in his capacity as minister for aviation. Gordon enclosed a copy of his reply along with his letter to us.

"Thank you for your letter of 12th June, to Ruth Kelly, enclosing correspondence from you constituent (named), about EU-OPS and flights operated by Air Atlantique Classic Flight. I have been asked to reply as minister for aviation.

The regulation known as EU-OPS, which comes into force next month, establishes harmonised European standards for for the commercial operation of aircraft, EU-OPS requires all aeroplanes being operated for commercial air transport to hold a standardised European Certificate of Airworthiness (C of A). However, many historic aeroplanes such as the DC3 do not qualify for a European C of A but operate under national certificates. These aeroplanes are known as Annex II aeroplanes. The Department for Transport has been working with the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), the European Commission (EC) and the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) to resolve how Annex II aeroplanes will be allowed to continue to operate once EU-OPS comes into force.

In the longer term. EASA is responsible for developing rules to replace EU-OPS by 2012 and these rules will specify how historic aeroplanes will be able to continue operating commercially. In view of this, the CAA has informed the EC that the UK intends to exempt operators currently using Annex II aeroplanes from the relevant EU-OPS requirement until the EASA rules come into force. I hope that your constituent (named) will be pleased to know that the CAA is confident that this will allow aeroplanes such as the DC3 to continue to operate.

I hope this information is helpful."

Yours sincerely,

Jim Fitzpatrick.


We have thanked Gordon for his efforts in raising the profile of the pettition.

A good result, and so much for the EU calling the shots all the time!





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Posted - 08/07/2008 : 06:14
Did you see the film 'Overlord' last night?  Never seen it before and it was full of archive film.  Very long shot of a Lancaster and even film of the Panjandrum beach assault monster including the one where it went berserk and headed straight for the cameraman who unbelievably stuck to his post!  Well worth looking for a DVD of it.


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Posted - 08/07/2008 : 06:15
PS. Long shots of Hengist gliders taking off as well.


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Posted - 08/07/2008 : 17:31
Missed that Stanley, was it a film or a documentary?

I have seen various docu's of the "funnies" etc.


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Posted - 08/07/2008 : 18:02
Film.  BBC4 22:00 Monday night.  Well worth looking up, lots of gun camera film and recce film at low level.  Many invasion shots I have never seen before.

Wikepedia:

Overlord is a 1975 film by Stuart Cooper. Set around the D-Day invasion ('Operation Overlord'), it's a war film about a young soldier's meditations on being part of the war machinery, and his premonitions of death. About half of Overlord is contemporary footage shot for the film, and about half of it is archival footage from British training missions and the invasion itself. Cooper and his cinematographer, John Alcott, strove to create a consistent look when filming the contemporary footage, and to this end they employed old film stock and WWII-era military camera lenses. The film originally failed to get US theatrical distribution, and was only shown there in select screenings and on television. In 2006, the film saw its first US release through Janus Films, and in early 2008 a re-mastered edition was re-released in cinemas (on 1 February, with a launch at the Institute of Contemporary Arts) and on DVD (on March 3) in the UK. It was released as part of the Criterion Collection in 2007.[1][2]

 


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Posted - 08/07/2008 : 18:28
BBC -  IPlayer is a wonderful thing, just found it on there and am downloading it, not seen it before Stanley but will watch it later tonight, just up my street, thanks for the heads up.


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Posted - 09/07/2008 : 08:38
I promise you'll like it.......  Story of the lad is a bit slow when you're waiting for the archival clips but a good film nonetheless.  I enjoyed it.  I like the bit about them using old film stock and ex-military lenses to get it as near seamless as they could, it was worth it, very difficult to see the joins.


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Posted - 09/07/2008 : 17:29
Watched it last night Stanley. Probably reflective of the experiences of lots of the lads that were called up. Can't really remember any other films which cover the build up to D Day in the same detail from the perspective of the ordinary sodier and I think I have seen the majority of them. Most seem to feature on the bigger picture and various aspects of the actual landings and escapades shortly thereafter and tend to focus a bit higher up the ladder of command. Very clever editing and all the better for it with the archive footage. Lots of personal testament from men who were involved often refer to the boredom of the build up and waiting around for something to happen. I think this showed this aspect really well. Worth watching.

Anyway back on topic, good news on the historic aircraft exemptions from the EU-OPS.


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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 11:26
See BBC One at 2.15pm today, Friday, 11 July 2008.

Queen to mark RAF's 90th birthday

The Queen is due to award new Colours to the Royal Air Force at the service's largest ceremony in more than 30 years. About 5,000 guests, including serving personnel, are attending, and there will be a flypast of 90 RAF aircraft. Colours - ceremonial flags - are awarded by a sovereign every 15 years to mark a service's achievements.

The presentation is being made jointly to the RAF and the Royal Air Force Regiment, the RAF's ground fighting force, and marks 90 years of the RAF. Group Captain Tony Barmby, the event's project officer, said: "For most RAF personnel, involvement in such a parade is a once-in-a-career experience." He added: "I'm very proud to have the chance to play a part."

The Queen's Colours were last presented to the Royal Air Force in the UK at RAF Marnham, Norfolk, in 1993. Friday's event will be the largest staged since Her Majesty conducted a Silver Jubilee review of the air force at RAF Finningley in South Yorkshire in 1977.

It will begin with a Royal Salute and a flypast by four Typhoons from RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire. The Queen's Colour Squadron (63 Squadron RAF Regiment) will escort the Queen's Colours along with other Royal Air Force Regiment squadrons and 34 Squadron RAF Regiment. The event marks the start of the Royal International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire.



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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 06:47
There was a live prog on yesterday from the fly-past at Fairford display.  Haven't watched it yet as I recorded it but I'm hoping the Vulcan might be flying.  It was on BBC1 yesterday morning.  If it isn't on IPlayer I have an idea I can copy from the hard disk to a DVD, let me know if you want it and I'll have a shot.  (I'll have to read the instructions.....)


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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 06:58
Just heard news that Fairford is cancelled today due to bad weather.  British summer eh......


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Posted - 12/07/2008 : 11:05
The Vulcan wasn't in the fly-past but Nimrods did a good job of shaking the ground. Tornados, Harriers and the like. Good shots of the Lancaster too. Dan Snow commentating for the BBC programme was disappointing - remember when Stanley Baxter would do it?


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