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Posted -  11/12/2011  :  11:22
Or BWMG for short. My eldest Niece was until retirement, Editor of a local newspaper. So I asked Her advice yesterday about how best to proceed when dealing with publicity, She has mailed the local paper concerned copied to me, something is in there that I was unaware of, this is copied from the e/mail:
"Hannah: A small group has been formed in a bid to have names missing from Barnoldswick's war memorial added.
Apparently there are 11 in total and much research has been carried out via newspaper archives with, I am told, some interesting stories.
As you are aware, there is a plan to move the memorial from the town square to the Memorial Gardens in 2012".

I have looked back through the appeal topic and the closest thing was the first reply in which one of our members expressed concern over the state of the Memorial and the Memorial Gardens, this is the first time I have heard mention of the Memorial being moved. If this is correct it would be the ideal time for additions to be carried out. The above figure of 11 names may yet increase, but I am fairly certain that the evidence I hold at present for those 11 will be acceptable. I will post the draft today although it needs a little more work, this is in effect a "Crib Sheet" for the press who will no doubt alter it to best suit their purpose, but the information it contains is as accurate as is possible at present.



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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 31/12/2011 : 14:46
Here is the updated info for the first of our candidates Private Arthur Green.

Surname: GREEN

Forename(s): Arthur

Place of Birth: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire

Residence: -----

Service No: 333429

Rank: Private

Regiment/Corps/Service: Highland Light Infantry

Battalion/Unit: -----

Division: division unknown

Age: 28

Date of Death: 1917-09-06

Awards: -----

CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: P. 4.

CWGC Cemetery: GILL UNDENOMINATIONAL BURIAL GROUND, BARNOLDSWICK

Arthur Green was born in 1889 and was the Son of James and Elizabeth green, he had three Brothers, Edgar, William and Albert.
1891 Census. Orchard St. Barnoldswick.

1901 Census. Wellhouse St. Barnoldswick.

1911 Census Wellhouse St. Barnoldswick.

I have copies of the above Census Documents.



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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 31/12/2011 : 15:52
The second one is Private Edmondson Pickles:

Surname: PICKLES

Forename(s): Edmondson

Place of Birth: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire

Residence: -----

Service No: 93697

Rank: Private

Regiment/Corps/Service: Northumberland Fusiliers

Battalion/Unit: 2nd Battalion

Division: division unknown

Age: 20

Date of Death: 1920-08-07

Awards: -----

CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: XIX. H. 11.

CWGC Cemetery: BAGHDAD (NORTH GATE) WAR CEMETERY

CWGC Memorial: -----

Non-CWGC Burial: -----

Pte Edmondson Pickles was born in 1900 and was the Son of Louisa Pickles,Widow of Clough Terrace Barnoldswick.

1901 Census, Clough Terrace Barnoldswick, Louisa Pickles 36, Fred J Coke Pickles 9. John Pickles 7. Florrie Pickles 3 and Edmondson Pickles aged 6 months.

1911 Census, 8 Stuart St Barnoldswick. John McGarragin 52. Louisa McGarragin 45. John Pickles 18. Florrie Pickles 14. Edmonson Pickles 10. Thomas McGarragin 6 and John McGarragin aged 4.


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 01/01/2012 : 15:00
The new tools I have at my disposal are a bonus indeed, very good at lifting the fog of time. I have full evidence now for six of our primary candidates and am working on the seventh, this is Sgt James Wilson. Our other two Sergeants George A Golding and James H Crowther have now become George Abraham Golding and James Hartley Crowther. Onwards and upwards, back to work.

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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 02/01/2012 : 16:48
Here is one for you Ian. A List of all those interred in Barlick from WW1:-

SOLDIERS BURRIED AT BARNOLDSWICK.

 GHYLL CHURCHYARD

Able Seaman John Robert Barlow.

Private James Norcross.

Private Benjamin Thomas Ormerod.

Private Walter Strickland.

Gunner Rufus Thompson.

Sergeant John Wilson.

GHYLL CEMETERY

Gunner Wilfred Anker.

Private James Richard Barnes.

Gunner William J Jackson.

Private James Parkinson.

Member Sarah Ann Hall.

Driver James Halstead.

Sergeant James Abraham Golding.

Private Arthur Green.

Private Carl Randolph Watson.

Private James Maurice Wilkinson.

UNSPECIFIED

Private Henry Broughton.

Sergeant James Hartlet Crowther.

Sergeant Charles Edwin Harris.

Private Fred Windle

Happy New Year.


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panbiker
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Posted - 02/01/2012 : 20:53
Out of those Peter, I know the resting places of thirteen of them. Seven are not on my list although I do commemorate quite a few more who are recorded on family plots and who may well be buried in foreign fields. The section of the cemetery in use at the time has a lot of bare ground now where headstones may well have been removed over time but may well contain the missing from your list. Pendle may well be able to help here for those in the cemetery but we would need access to the church records for the churchyard.


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 11:38
Thank you Ian. A shadow of doubt has now fallen over two of our candidates, Gunner Peter Barrett, I can find nothing to place him in Barlick, and Private James Wilson who's Father was resident at 7 West Ave, Barlick does not return a match in the 1911 Census, he could have been a lodger somewhere. With that in mind, so could Peter Barret? All of our other names show positive in 1911 and match with all other info.

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Chris CPGW
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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 12:19
Thomo, according to Peter Barretts enrolment paper's dated 2 June 1916,  his place of residence is listed as No 4 Parrock St Barnoldswick  and was employed as a Cotton Twister. He died of pneumonia at Salonika 18th June 1918 . He names his next of kin as  Mrs Gertrude Barrett (wife) living at 30 Wellington St  Nelson. I hope this helps


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 13:05
It certainly does Chris, and a Happy New Year to you. Now I can have another trawl, see what I can dig out. Many Thanks.

Thomo.



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Chris CPGW
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Posted - 03/01/2012 : 15:41
Happy New Year to you Peter.
I've taken a look at the 1911 census and Peter Barrett along his Father and Mother and other sibling were living at 11 Chatham St  Nelson. It states that  most of the family were born in Glusburn apart from Peter and  a younger brother and sister were born in Cononley .
It also states that Gertrude  was Peter's elder sister and not his wife as I stated in my last  posting
Best Wishes
Chris


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Chris CPGW
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Posted - 04/01/2012 : 13:17
Peter, I've taken a look at the 1911 census and at that period James Wilson was living in lodgings in Great Harwood Lancs, working as a Cotton Weaver . His parents John and Mary and two of his siblings were living at  No 7 West Avenue Barnoldswick . Whilst we can't confirm where James was living at the outbreak of war ( I haven't managed to find his Army Service Record which would have given us his address. I suspect   it was destrroyed along with the majority of  the  other Army Servce Records during the bombing of London in WW2.)  Its a guess that he would have given his parents name and address  as the address of next
of kin . So the link to Barnoldswick could be a tenuous one.

James is commemorated on the Great Harwood War memorial

Regards

Chris

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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 04/01/2012 : 15:13
In those days many people took up lodgings near work, James could have been with family as he was born there. It is also possible that Peter Barrett was lodging on Parrock St along with his Sister. By way of a change I have been poking around in your patch today, looking for ancestors in Linton and Grassington, I found one but the rest have as yet eluded me. Many thanks for your input Chris, its hard going and I still have another eleven possibles in group "C", and when that is sorted I will be going through the other 285 that we have on the memorial, and then there are the other local areas Earby, Kelbrook etc, but thats for the book planned for the future. As always however, there is a time limit on that one.

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