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Callunna
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I've been asked by a relative to help him with his research on the Rawsthorn(e) family of Widdop. He isn't comfortable using computers but recognises that much of the detail he needs will be found online.
Please can anyone point me in the right direction as I've never done this kind of thing before. What are the best websites to use? What is free and what has to be paid for? Has anyone got resources which I could use (and would be willing to pay a small consideration for)
Here's his brief to me:
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Rawsthorn(e) Project
To trace thge burial records of a family of hillfarmers who were driven off their farm at Widdop when Halifax Corporation built the reservoir (c. 1890).
The family burials were at Blakedene non-conformist chapel, which has since been demolished.
The family moved to Hurstwood nr Burnley and there is a burial recorded about 40 years ago - Hurstwood Methodist Chapel.
Two brothers moved to Barcroft Hall, Cliviger, nr Burnley. The last descendent still lives nearby.
The story of this tough, independent family of hillfarmers is worth research and there are two initial questions:
1. Can Methodist burial ground records be used to trace the family tree?
2. Is the local Halifax newspaper digitised so that there can be online research into the news items about the construction of Widdop reservoir?
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Any advice on how to tackle this project would be most appreciated - thanks.
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 12:17
Blake Dean graveyard is still accesible - next to the scout hut at Widdop,
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1226847
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thomo
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 13:56
There was a Dick Rawsthorne farming near Sawley in the late 30s, his son Richard was best man at my wedding in 65 and now I think lives at Tosside, his sister Kathleen Rawsthorne now Taylforth is I believe still in Barlick, another sister was called Doris.
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Callunna
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 14:13
The name Richard fits with the details I've been provided with. I shall follow this up.
Thanks to both you and Colin for the valuable info - it's helped get me started on a subject which quite frankly I find rather daunting.
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thomo
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 14:23
If I can help, all you have to do is ask, its time I dug out my old mate anyway. The family lived at 58 Rainhall Rd, next to what is now the chippie.
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Callunna
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 14:30
Thanks for your kind offer, Peter.
A quick call to my above relative has revealed that in fact this Richard lives in the Cliviger area so I think maybe it's another family. However, there may well be a distant connection and I shall look forward to discovering more details.
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thomo
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 14:37
I know of another Rawsthorne who lives in Clitheroe and I think works at Rolls Royce, I will have a dig.
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 16:37
Sue is the lady with all the info about Widdop. There is a topic on the site called Widdop Reservoir.
I came across a chap called Rob Rawsthorne a few years ago when we lived in Scotland. He was a horse logger, and related to my neighbour, but I think his family came from somewhere in this area.
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 17:25
I may have some Rawsthorne info . Let me know all you want tp know and I'll do my best. I've been off air for a few days as grandparents were called to the rescue in Coventry, both grandaughter and later daughter had anasty gastric bug and need some TLT asour son in law was working away for two days this week
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Callunna
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 17:47
Thanks Sue - I would love to take you up on your offer. I don't expect owt fer nowt and I appreciate it will take time and effort. I will happily make a donation either to a charity of your choice or to your own research fund - I believe it can be very costly to access all the records etc.
Please let me know what you need to know from me - I'm very new to this lark and don't really know where to start. I'm willing to do a lot of legwork but the more I look into things, the more information is thrown up.
Do you think it would be wise to buy a book (there must surely be a volume called "Researching Burial Records In Non-conformist Chapels For Dummies"...) so that I can learn how to go about it? Can anyone recommend one?
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 19:06
I have full membership of Ancestry.com which means I can trace most things sat watching TV!!. Once you have names and death dates it is possible to contact cemetries direct, (but some charge) and they can tell you where people are buried. I will probably be necessary to send for a few death certificates which will cost money. No charge, for the research itself. I just love solving the problems.If it does create a cost I will let you know. I don't think Halifax paper is digitised. The Non conformist burials are probably listed at Preston Records Office, or Halifax records office you can email them to find out.
As for Barcroft Hall, you will laugh. I have a friend of agood friend whose sone has jusr converted this to seperate dwellings. This builder knows the Rawstrone descendant and I believe he had the full famly tree, i can try and find out
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 19:26
this is a good start
1891 census Name:
John RawsthorneAge: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Rawsthorne
Gender: Male
Where born: Widdup, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Worsthorn With Hurstwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Worsthorne St John
Town: Dunnockshaw
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Living in Higher Halstead, Hurstwood
Household Members:
John Rawsthorne 53
Sarah Ann Rawsthorne ( born Kelbrook about 1841) 50
Mary Ann Rawsthorne Born Lancashire Newhouse? 26
John Rawsthorne born Lancashire Shuttleworth Pasture 9
Samuel Sunderland Uncle retired from from Windlefield 76
1901 census Name: John Rawsthorne Farmer with own accountAge: 64Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837Relation: HeadGender: MaleWhere born: Halifax, Yorkshire, EnglandCivil parish: Worsthorne With HurstwoodEcclesiastical parish: Worsthorne St JohnTown: HurstwoodCounty/Island: LancashireCountry: EnglandRegistration district: BurnleySub-registration district: East WardED, institution, or vessel: 42Address Farmhouse, HurstwoodHousehold Members: Name AgeJohn Rawsthorne 64John Rawsthorne Born Lancashire Burnley 19 Second family Name: Sarah J RawsthorneAge: 4Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897Relation: DaughterFather's Name: Richard RawsthorneMother's Name: Hannah RawsthorneGender: FemaleWhere born: Worsthorne, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Worsthorne With HurstwoodEcclesiastical parish:Worsthorne St JohnTown: HurstwoodCounty/Island: LancashireCountry: England Street Address: Cottage Hurstwood
Registration district: BurnleySub-registration district: East WardED, institution, or vessel: 42Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 190Household Members: Name Age Richard Rawsthorne Farmer 37
Hannah Rawsthorne 33
Sarah J Rawsthorne 4
Thomas Rawsthorne 1
Richard Rawsthorne Under 1 Month
Alice Rawsthorne 1 Month
These two families of Richard and John may be brothers
Edited by - Sue on 18/03/2011 7:28:06 PM
Edited by - Sue on 18/03/2011 7:55:20 PM
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 20:16
1871 census
again on Widdop moor. Name: Thomas Rawsthorn of REAPs WIDDOP MOORFarmer of 93 acresAge: 69Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802Relation: HeadSpouse's Name: Betty RawsthornGender: MaleWhere born: Bell Bash Crasen, Yorkshire, EnglandCivil parish: HeptonstallEcclesiastical parish: Heptonstall St ThomasCounty/Island: YorkshireCountry: EnglandRegistration district: TodmordenSub-registration district: Hebden BridgeED, institution, or vessel: 21Household schedule number: 3Household Members: Name AgeThomas Rawsthorn 69Betty Rawsthorn 64Richard Rawsthorn 24John Rawsthorn 40Emma Rawsthorn 26Mitchell Helliwell 1Ann Rawsthorn 3William Stansfield 75
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 20:17
These families seem to be on the Widdup farms back to 1861. I have been sent information back to the 1700s by another contact and I will check it out.
Now I have some names I will try to find some deaths and burials
Edited by - Sue on 18/03/2011 8:20:30 PM
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 20:33
Been having a look in the Thornton in Craven parish records.
Baptisms:
14/08/1792 Rawston William son of Joseph & Mary weaver Harden.
09/01/1794 Rawston Ellen daug of Joseph & Mary woolcomber Moor Hall.
02/06/1799 Rawsthorne Richard son of Richard & Ann (nee Benson) weaver Salterforth.
19/06/1831 Rawsthorne John son of Thomas & Betty farmer Heptonstall.
04/11/1832 Rawsthorne Ann daug of Thomas & Betty farmer Heptonstall.
Marriages:
13/07/1828 Rawsthorne Thomas, Halifax, and Betty Parker. Witnesses Jonas Howker and Richard Rawsthorn.
12/12/1844 Rawstron William 46 widr. & Jane Turner
04/07/1863 Rawstron John 26 bachl. labourer, Heptonstall & Sarah Ann Lund. Father Richard Rawstron.
Sarah Ann Lund was the daughter of Matthew Lund of Harden.
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Posted - 18/03/2011 : 20:37
Deaths Burnley would be the most likely registry office for Widdup moor and Hurstwood
Name: Richard RawsthornEstimated Birth Year: abt 1839Year of Registration: 1901Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-DecAge at Death: 62District: BurnleyCounty: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West RidingVolume: 8ePage: 123 Name: Richard RawsthornYear of Registration: 1854Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-MarDistrict: BurnleyCounty: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West RidingVolume: 8ePage: 135 Name: Richard RawstronEstimated Birth Year: abt 1800Year of Registration: 1886Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-MarAge at Death: 86District: BurnleyCounty: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West RidingVolume: 8ePage: 152 Name: Richard RawstronEstimated Birth Year: abt 1835Year of Registration: 1912Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-MarAge at Death: 77District: BurnleyCounty: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West RidingVolume: 8ePage: 341 Name: John RawsthorneYear of Registration: 1841Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-JunDistrict: BurnleyCounty: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West RidingVolume: 21Page: 164 Name: John RawsthornEstimated Birth Year: abt 1837Year of Registration: 1914Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-JunAge at Death: 77District: BurnleyCounty: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West RidingVolume: 8ePage: 243
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Rawsthorn(e), Widdop, research
