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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted -  14/10/2004  :  09:57
Jack is making a lot of friends in Barlick. I don't know why, maybe it's his face markings but people on the street feel the need to stroke him. Women in particular fall for him.

As you know, I had a bad experience with Joe, the lurcher from Irlam. I was very wary about taking another feral dog on but I'm beginning to think that Jack will make it as a member of the team. He's good at coming to hand when off the lead but I'm not saying he'd take any notice if he was distracted.

He's fast and very agile and seems to have lungs as big as a bucket, I haven't heard him pant as though he's out of breath even after a hard run. As for jumping, he's like a cat. Here he is on his favourite perch. Someone asked me the other day why I don't stop him doing it. It's easier to clean the drainer twice a day!


[This topic started as Jack's blog but in Jan 2008 I had to put him down because he started attacking strange dogs.  His successor is Black Jack. a Patterdale pup, no point erasing Jack the Lurcher from history....  he was a good dog and what happened wasn't his fault.  He had too bad a start.....]


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 14:44
I am pleased to report that Jack slept through last night without waking me to go out.....  Definitely progress.  He's getting into his routine now and I've changed his feeding to one feed after early morning walk and his main feed at 14:00 then nothing till the following morning.  He has not collapsed yet!  In fact he's putting weight on, mostly muscle, not fat.


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Gloria
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 15:04
Has he got used to the name Jack? Must have associated his old name with a telling off.


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marilyn
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 23:13
Teach him to 'fetch' things for you whilst he is still young Stanley, as this will be a great asset.
I tought Sam to 'fetch' a rolled up newspaper and for years we would open the front door for her to run down the driveway on her own and collect the paper. A handy thing when it is pouring with rain. She used to 'fetch' all sorts of stuff for me....including her leash if she felt like Mum needed the hint.


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 05:31
I've had a go but he hasn't grasped the concept yet....  He slept through without a pee night befoire last.  Last night I needed a pee and while I was up invited him to go into the front garden.  He refused and went back to bed!  So I trusted him.....  All was well, he had a pee as soon as we got up (in the front garden) and is asleep again on my chair.  I think that house-training is going well.......


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Cathy
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 08:18
Ah bless him ... how is your new garden holding up Stanley? 


All thru the fields and meadows gay  ....  Enjoy   
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Gloria
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 08:31
Excellent Stanley, your toilet training is working well.


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 09:36
Down to him actually, just goes to show that if you give a dog a chance it won't soil its own nest.....  Makes you wonder what he did when locked in the carry cage.....  He's getting used to the rub down with the towel and funny thing is that there is a towel on the bathroom carpet for a bath mat and he loves having a roll on it and fighting it.  He finished up this morning completely tangled up.  Great entertainment while sitting on the throne, Radio 4 and a perfoming dog!


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Sue
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 09:52
When we had a new dining room carpet, we had two matching door mats made for the doorway between the kitchen and dining room to stop some of the wear and tear. They fitted nicely and safely in one position. However that position does not suit Soda cat.

The first ritual of every day is to attack the mat and 'kill' it and move to where she wants it, which IS ALways in the same place. When we move it back she immediately kills it and puts it back where she wants it!!  Its quite hilarious to watch, especially when she is  in'hunt' position crouched with her little bum in the air  going from side to side ready to kill the poor old piece of carpet

 Sue


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 14:37
Wonderful how they adjust our world to suit them.  On a slightly nasty note, here's something I've just been moved to write, it clears it out of my head.  Forgive me for burdening you....

THE MILK OF HUMAN KINDNESS.

 I got a letter today…..  no signature, just a letter.  Here’s what it said….. Stanley Graham I’ve rushed home to write this letter before I come and vent my anger on you. I was informed this morning as to how you have treated your best pal, shadow and confidante. So you have got rid of the dog that you pretended to think so much of because he was BOISTEROUS!!  It didn’t matter that he’d already come from a bad home, was only five years old, was healthy and had his whole life in front of him.  How I admired you when you told me you’d rescued him and how happy he was with you. Stan. You are a Judas.  You couldn’t even be bothered to try to find him a home, and now he’s been superceded [sic] with another poor hapless creature, who you have had the temerity to name ‘Jack’. A few people have mentioned to me that you can be a nasty piece of work and now I believe it.  You want to get that beautiful picture of Jack and his ‘loving owner’ out of the paper promptly.  You are a hypocrite and make me sick.  You think you are popular in the town, not any more.  Jack was.  I hope you are bothered with your conscience (if you have one) for always.…………….. So, there you are……  whoever sent the letter evidently knows me and Jack well and has felt qualified to make instant judgements based on assumptions without any thought for my feelings, regard for the truth or having the courage to come out of the shadows.  Lord protect us from people like that! Just in case this ever comes to your notice (whoever you are), Jack wasn’t put down on a whim or for being ‘boisterous’.  Mrs Marsh, the vet who has looked after Jack for the last five years, agreed with me that it was the best thing to do and was as sad as I was.  The reason we had to do it was because, having been attacked a few times by ‘boisterous’ dogs he slowly became very wary of any strange dog.  Being a big lad and full of confidence he evidently decided that the best thing to do was to get his retaliation in first and started attacking strange dogs when he was running free.  I couldn’t stop him, it was like watching a train wreck happening. So, Anonymous, a decision had to be made.  It would have been quite easy to stop him, muzzle him (in which case he couldn’t chase and retrieve his Frisbee) or keep him permanently on the lead which would have ensured that he got bored and even more dangerous.  Consider also that when a dog gets it into his head that attack is permissible, how long before he decides to attack a human or a child?  Remember the case a few weeks ago where the family pet killed the visiting child?  That was the consideration that weighed on me and Mrs Marsh and we both came to the same conclusion.  As she said to me it wasn’t failure, I had given him four very good years and he went so quietly and under no stress.  Most important it removed a potential danger.  For this same reason, he couldn’t be passed on to another owner because that would have been irresponsible.  The danger would have gone with him. So, Anonymous, thank you for your letter.  Next time you think of flying off the handle like that, consider doing it face to face in broad daylight and getting your facts straight.  As for your suspicion that I am a ‘nasty piece of work’, that doesn’t bother me in the least, it angers me of course but I don’t need to take any heed of someone who hasn’t the moral courage to voice their concerns publicly.  Have you sent Mrs Marsh a letter as well?  I hope not because like me she doesn’t deserve it.  Get your facts straight next time and have a bit of consideration for other people. Love?  Not a lot of that in your case….  Stanley……… SCG/05 February 2008


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moh
Silver Surfer


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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 15:14
Very cowardly - you did what was best Stanley - people who write such rubbish do not deserve to have it printed on here unless they admit who they are, and I do not suppose that will happen - he/she would soon have shouted if Jack had attacked their dog - IGNORE THE IGNORANT COWARD.


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Another
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 15:25
Comrade, I know you can't ignore it but at least you know its not true and written by someone who must lead a pretty sad life to condemn people out of hand without knowing the facts. C


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melteaser
Genealogist


4819 Posts
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 15:29
What would they have been saying to you now Stanley, if you had voiced your concerns over Jacks behaviour but done nothing about and then heard that Jack had attacked and maimed?

It's a shame more people don't have the courage that you showed Stanley.

I bet the person who wrote this still has the front to wish you good day in the street...why else remain anonymous? 


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Gloria
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 16:35
Mel has just written everything I think. You did the right thing Stanley.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 17:08
Stanley

We have never met.
But over the year or so I have been on OGFB I have come to respect your views, on some things we would differ.

I would just like to say on the decision you made with regards to Your Dog  I would back you 100% over and over again.
You have an enemy who is not prepared to show themselves, but you also have lots of friends who are prepared to stand by you,and you can count on me as one.
I just discussed this with Val and she just said what would our reaction have been should the dog have turned on our grand child when out in the park.!!!!!!!!!   I don't think I need to say anymore



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Sue
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 18:52
Stanley I can't believe how harsh some peole are. I remember when Lancashire daughter was 3 and Warwickshire daughter was 5 we had a cat, called Tom( yes a ginger Tom). he was knocked down outside our house two days before the family holiday. We took him to the vet who said he may recover with careful nursing. He had a broken jaw and his main problem was drinking and hence dehydration.

Luckily we had some very friendly neighbours ( who we are still close to even though they moved to Brittany 15 years ago ). They had two cats of  their own and even took Tom to the vets with us. Richard, the eldest son ( and indeed in later years one of my own students. I am still waiting for his homework, but that is another story) said  he would look after Tom, and nurse him whilst we were away. I mean how can you tell a 3 year old and 5 year old that they can't go on holiday because the cat was going to die.

So sadly went away. When we came back we found that Tom had disappeared after 2 days, never to be seen again aven though several neighbours had been out looking for him. The vet said he couldn't possibly have survived in the wild, and often a cat will go and hide under a hedge somewhere  when they know they are going to die.

We  were all devastated. Tom would have died had we been there or not. It wasn't  Richards fault, he did everything including trying to drip liquid and food into Toms mouth. To be honest it was less cruel to just let him go off and die, or perhaps even had had him 'put down'  but  we also had the girls to consider.

Within 12 hours are daughters were being taunted by the children of another neighbour, saying they had killed their cat because they didn't know how to look after it. With bristling manner I stormed round to the neighbour, who then turned on me, saying we should never have gone away, we were not fit to own an animal etc etc etc....

It was heartbreaking, however one thing there were never two more road conscious children than mine.Claire, the youngest still remebers the trauma of seeing him on the road.  For Claires 10th birthday we let  her have a cat of her own after much begging and pleading. We insisted thathecat came froman animal sanctuary or equivalent so she could give a home to an unwanted animal.

That was 1987, and we still have cats to this day. All loved, all cared for, some died on the road unfortunately, but all treasured, buried or cremated and buried in the garden. Claire and hubby now have a cat of their own, still from the same santuary.

Any cat lovers amongst you, have you noticed that cats choose you and not the other way round



SO STANLEY, YOU KNOW YOU DID THE RIGHT THING, just as we did. People say hurtful things often without knowing the facts. You have got it off your chest, let that be the closure for you.

Heres to a long and happy life with JACK 2

 Sue


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