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Rossie
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Posted -  29/12/2007  :  16:34
As there seems to be quite a bit of artistic talent around here, I thought I would start a pencil sketch section .....


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Stanley
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Posted - 06/04/2010 : 04:40
Your mother is a wise and caring woman and what's more SHE'S RIGHT!!!

Tiz, I don't want him to work quicker, just sleep more. We young lads need our beauty sleep.


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belle
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Posted - 08/04/2010 : 10:29
Conty...here's a little tip regarding having too much on. You will begin to see your art as a chore, and not a love if you take on too much, so try to say no to some requests...one way to do this, and it works well for my nephew who is also in the arts, is to price a job very highly, so peopel think twice, sometimes it doesn't put the person off, and you still have it to do , but it isn't such a burden when your precious time is being properly paid for.
Love the new colour picture.


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conty
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Posted - 08/04/2010 : 16:23
like the tip belle... but the thing is i am desperate to buy my own car, well the cars not the problem its going to be to afford to insure it, so i need the money, so i do put the pressure on myself. but i am not allowed to train or throw now for 2 weeks as ive got an injurie and yesterday i cleared out my studio so i have more room to work so hopefully i will get some more drawing done.
i dont know if any of you watched the programme about van gouh (dont think ive spelt that right) but its made me want to do some oils, i thought the programme was really interesting though i didnt like much of his work, it just inspired me, did any of you watch it???


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Stanley
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Posted - 08/04/2010 : 16:50
Yes but don't emulate him too closely, he was barking mad!


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belle
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Posted - 08/04/2010 : 17:13
I love Van Gogh, he certainly saw the world in a unique way.


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conty
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Posted - 08/04/2010 : 20:15
everyone thought he was barking, i thought he was insane but mum said he was just very depressed, she felt sorry for him thinking about it maybe she was right, being that poor and hungrey for food and love would drive a sane mad wild after time.
i enjoyed the story but i dont much like his paintings, the sunflowers were painted in a day, like most of his paintings...... i cant see that too much thought or care went into producing his paintings, maybe thats why he never sold one while he was alive. i think the letters to his brother that documents his life and his paintings with his disappointments and failings in life is what has made them worth so much money, its a shame he never got to see them sell. but then i am 16 and have alot to learn about art.. maybe he was a genius but i dont think so


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Stanley
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Posted - 09/04/2010 : 04:36
Sensible lad, you have it about right.


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belle
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Posted - 09/04/2010 : 08:07
I read a book on his life a long time ago, he began work as a priest in the south of France (I think) and he found the poverty of the miners families so distressing he sold his sunday clothes to buy them food, and whenever he could he went up on the slag heaps with the woman and children who were picking them over for any useable lumps. The word got back to the church authorities and they sent a committee who found him clad in rags on the slag heaps as filthy as those he worked amongst, so he got the sack.
They may have viewed him as mad, but I don't think that is the slant we would have put on it these days. He also lived in England for a while and used to walk to see his sister, as he lived in east Yorkshire, and she on the south coast, that was quite some walk...apparantly that was why he drew his boots so often, bit like taking photo's of your car! I like his art, it is full of creative energy, his desire to understand the world and his joy in nature was apparant. Of course the other act that defines him as mad is that he cut off his own ear...modern theories feel that it might have been Gaugin who cut it off, and I am inclined to believe that..they shared a house together and Gaugin was known for his extremes of absinthe drinking and violence, and his womanising. Perhaps they fell for the same woman...who knows, but the practicalities of cutting off your own ear would suggest to me that you would pass out before severing it completely!
Do you think Conty, that Van Gogh might have had what we call learning difficulites these days? His literal take on Christianity , and walking to see his sister, and his inability to stand up to Gaugin, and his somewhat childlike pictures might suggest it.

Edited by - belle on 09/04/2010 08:17:07 AM


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conty
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Posted - 09/04/2010 : 08:19
belle he started work at an art place, his brother also worked there. the programme will be on the bbc i player if you missed it belle. you might like to watch it if you read the book. they said that there is not one word in the programme that he didnt speak himself. thats why i watched it. and the fact it might come in useful for the ole A level art next year


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belle
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Posted - 09/04/2010 : 11:50
I have seen a couple of progs on him, here is an excerpt from a google result:
In 1870, after completing a sketchy array of education, Van Gogh was employed by the Hague gallery, run by French art dealers Goupil et Cie, at the age of 16. Later in 1873, Goupil transferred Vincent to London then again to Paris by 1875. After this relocation, Gogh lost all desire to become a professional art dealer; instead following in his father's foot steps and devoting his life to the evangelization of the poor seemed more logical. Despite his erratic behavior his parents agreed to pay for his education. Gogh soon abandoned his lessons and began a ministry with the miners of Borinage. During this time he was able to identify with the miners, their lifestyles, and their families. This interaction between Gogh and the worker class is later shown in his works as he becomes fascinated with depicting peasant life.



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Stanley
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Posted - 10/04/2010 : 07:10
I came across something I didn't know about yesterday. I'm reading the last volume of Schama's history of Britain. I love his history because he goes for little known and quirky research which always grabs you. He has some drawings depicting social ills, a bit like Hogarths. The funny thing is that they were published in a book on birds 'History of British Birds' 1804. by Thomas Bewick. Well worth seeking out and having a look at because they are very powerful and shocking images.


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conty
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Posted - 10/04/2010 : 09:21
i just looked up the book stanley but i couldnt find any images, but the book is £275!!! and its sold out
this is what i was working on yesterday, making some ground on it, but none of it is what i would say is done yet




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tripps
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Posted - 10/04/2010 : 12:34
That's looking like your best yet. I can almost smell the dog!


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conty
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Posted - 10/04/2010 : 13:08
LOL thanks tripps that made me laugh, thats the first time thats been said


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moh
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Posted - 10/04/2010 : 13:43
What a talent - the dog looks so alive.


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