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jill harwood
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Broughton and Atkinson in Barnoldswick I have had help with my Broughton ancestors both from Nigel Broughton and Stanley’s transcript of William Parkinson Atkinson’s “Old Barlick”, WPA turns out to have been my ancestor Rachel Atkinson’s brother. Their mother was Ann Broughton. I thought the following details might help others looking for ancestors in Barlick. My direct ancestors are in bold, an asterisk denotes those mentioned in the “Old Barlick” text. Stephen Broughton b c1774 Barnoldswick m Mary Thorp 26 Nov 1768 Skipton. Their children: 1. Ann Broughton bap 29 Sep 1799 Barnoldswick married Thomas Atkinson*, tailor b c1803 Gisburn, on 16 Mar 1829 at Barnoldswick. 2. William Broughton bap 07 Jun 1801 3. Richard Broughton bap 25 Sep 1803 m Jennet Slater 4. Margaret Broughton b c1808 m George A Livsey* (no children) 5. Mary Broughton bap 14 Apr 1811 6. Eleanor/Ellener/Helen Broughton bap 21 Nov 1813 d1871 m John Dugdale* on 27 May 1839 at Barnoldswick. Children all born Barnoldswick: Richard Broughton Dugdale b1841, Alice Dugdale b1843, Margaret Dugdale b1848, Sarah Ellen Dugdale b1851.
Jill Harwood- Researching the Atkinson, Abbott & Broughton families in Barlick and beyond.
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Stanley
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Posted - 21/02/2010 : 06:20
Welcome to the site Bev. If you go to lulu.com you can buy a copy of 'Old Barlick' by WPA. Put stanley challenger graham in the search box in the buy section and it'll take you straight to my books. I think you'd like to have a copy.
Stanley Challenger Graham
Barlick View
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moh
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Posted - 21/02/2010 : 11:06
Touting for business????
Say only a little but say it well |
Stanley
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Posted - 22/02/2010 : 07:09
No Moh, I couldn't care less about sales but I think Bev would enjoy it. Jill did.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Callunna
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Posted - 09/09/2010 : 21:27
It would seem that we've bought the house where Carr Atkinson lived in 1911, aged 38. See Jill's second post in this topic.
e) Carr Atkinson b 1873 m Elizabeth Edmonson 1897. 1901: journeyman tailor
There seems to be a whiff of scandal here. He's down as Married (14 years) but he's living with Ada May Morley, aged 26, Single, whose relationship to Carr is 'Servant'.
There are three of her children under 5 also living there (Willie, Elsie and Ada May Morley). I thought at first that his wife might simply have been away on the day of the census but the giveaway is that each of Ada May's children has the middle name Atkinson. And their relationship to Carr is 'Son' and 'Daughters'. Pretty conclusive, I'd say :–)
Amazing what you find when you go digging!
I was trying to find out when our row of houses was built because the original deeds have been lost. There are six houses in the row that are quite different in style to the ones either side and I was wondering why. It must have been built between 1902 and 1911 because I can't find any references to the street in the 1901 census.
Edited by - Callunna on 09/09/2010 10:12:43 PM
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Posted - 10/09/2010 : 04:28
As the centre of oer brush there should be no surprises with family names they just make traceing back more difficult. I always thought my grandfather was Kendal, but is really Edmundson, so how do we validate (if we really care).
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Stanley
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Posted - 10/09/2010 : 06:50
Heather, I've posted in York Street about the dates but in case you missed it. In about 1900 the only buildings north of Rainhall Road (apart from the first length of Park Road) were old ones like the bakery. Everything else was fields. I'd guess that that end of York street was about 1905. Nice thing is that a lot of the terraces at the top end of Park Road and on Park Avenue have date stones. Some good clues there.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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moh
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Posted - 10/09/2010 : 13:49
How is the renovation going Cally?
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Callunna
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Posted - 10/09/2010 : 14:47
In leaps and bounds, Mo.
On time, within budget. No nasty surprises. Fingers crossed it stays thus.
If it does, we'll be moving in by late October, early November. I did start a blog but I got so fed up with the awkward handling of photos that I gave up. Might update it later if I get the time. |
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Posted - 10/09/2010 : 17:43
If you want to discover more about the people who owned your house Heather, then the place to go is the West Riding Registry of Deeds in Wakefield. Most West Yorkshire deeds from 1704 to the 1970's were registered there. All the relavent information was copied out into books which are indexed by both names and places.
I'm planning a visit soon, so if it's not something you have the time or inclination for then I will gladly have a look for you. All I need is an owner pre 1970.
Otherwise there are records of property valuations and rateable values which should give owners and possibly occupiers (not sure) definately at the LRO and possibly in Barlick Library?
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Callunna
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Posted - 12/09/2010 : 21:39
Hey Wendy - thanks for the offer! Any info would be fantastic.
I don't know how these things work so if it's easy to check stuff out, that would be great but if it's time consuming then I wouldn't want to put you to a lot of trouble. Is there a cost involved?
I don't know much about the house's history, but obviously a good guess would be that the first owner was Carr Atkinson or maybe his father William. It seems to have been quite common for gentlemen in Edwardian times to build or finance houses for their offspring (my g-grandfather did it with Turner Street in Barlick.)
I do have the name of the last owner but I don't think it's fair to publish it on a website. If the site software would let me I would PM it to you, but sadly it doesn't seem to like things connected with Apple (Macs, iphones, etc)
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Posted - 13/09/2010 : 07:48
I'm going there anyway to look up info on my house, so it depends how long that takes me. If I have time it's no problem and no cost involved. Shall I contact you through the Bernulf website to let you have my email address?
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Callunna
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Posted - 23/09/2010 : 16:08
Just got a copy of the Land Registry details for Carr Atkinson's house.
It seems that the land was bought by Rhodes Driver in 1896:
"A conveyance of the land in this title and other land dated 1 September 1896 made between The Craven Bank Ltd and Rhodes Driver contains the following covenants:
The said Rhodes Driver for himself and his heirs and assigns hereby covenants with the bank ... will not permit any building now or hereafter to be erected on the said plots of land to be used as an Inn, Public House, Beer House, or as a place for the sale of wines, ale, beer, porter or spitituous liquor or as a slaughter house, dye house, tinman's or tallow chandler's workshop or for any other noisy, noisome or offensive trade or business AND WILL NOT put out any cellar holes, steps or other projections into, on or over the said footpaths."
Darn it!
We were planning to open a 24-hour bar/disco where we would have live craft demonstrations of candle-making, metalwork and fabric dyeing, together with an annual ritual goat sacrifice, which would be held in a marquee stretching across the whole street.
I guess we'll just have to live there quietly instead. |
belle
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Posted - 23/09/2010 : 16:39
Let me know how easy it is to access archives once you get there Wendy, there are heaps of documents relating to my family in there, but I am always a bit put off about going.
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Posted - 23/09/2010 : 21:13
My day out to Wakefield has been a bit delayed by other events, but I will make it soon. It sounds as if you have discovered all you need to know Heather, I'll still have a look for Rhodes Driver...what a fine name!
Belle I have been a couple of times before, and it is all quite easy, especially if you know the names you are looking for and an approximate date. Once you have found the deed you want in the indexes the staff bring you the appropriate register from the shelves....and if you are lucky you will be able to decipher the writing. I love having an excuse to go!
There is car parking at WYAS, but I prefer to go by train, its not too far from the station.
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Atkinson & Broughton in Barnoldswick
