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Callunna
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Posted -  12/07/2011  :  09:11
Tesco are considering opening a store in Barnoldswick.

They claim it will create 175 jobs and keep shoppers in the town, as well as saving local firm L&P Springs.

There are 2 exhibitions taking place this Friday and Saturday for people to gain more information.

Views, anyone? 


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Callunna
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Posted - 06/10/2011 : 10:47
I believe the final point in Stanley's post is key.

Unless people can be confident that all the shops will be open on Tuesday afternoon and all day Saturday, then of course they will shop elsewhere. I would .... and I do. It would be hypocritical of me not to admit it. 

It's easy for me to say - I don't have to manage a shop and work out how I can afford to keep open all hours while paying extra wages etc - but the fact is that times have changed and shopkeepers have to change too.

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Bradders
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Posted - 06/10/2011 : 10:49
Sainsbury now have  permission to open a store on the outskirts of Wadebridge  ........with a petrol station....

There was opposition from some sections of the community. This came mainly  from those who could afford to travel , and local businesses.

My own feeling is that some firms ( especially the petrol station) have been holding locals to ransom .....It will not continue !

 

 


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thomo
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Posted - 06/10/2011 : 17:17
I just discovered the downside of online shopping this afternoon whilst in Asda, the "order pickers" must be on piece work, and have very little regard for instore shoppers. Reach out for the last required item on a shelf and whoosh, its gone!!!


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 07/10/2011 : 04:28
'Early Closing Day' was originally brought in as protection for shop workers being forced to work excessive hours and at that thime was a good thing. There is no legal requirement for it now but it's almost a tradition that has carried on. You're right Heather, it may have to change. We never closed early at Sough.


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Tardis
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Posted - 07/10/2011 : 15:51
Maybe the town shops simply need a more innovative approach:

Open early, close around lunch for a couple of hours (except the coffee and sandwich shops of course) and then re-open in the late afternoon and go through to the early evening. More continental etc.

The problem, however, is that people have to use them or lose them.

It might be nice to see the library open all week too, as it is of little value to those at college to be closed on a Sunday. Tuesday would simply add extra hours to the offering.

I well remember having to work within the archaic laws on retail staffing though the early closing day had gone from all the places I worked, thank god most have now gone and some flexibility and common sense have been introduced. I valued my staff as part of the operation, without their co-operation we wouldn't have achieved what we did. The only point I would make is that the 7 day retail operation now ensures that those who have "weekends" have the flexibilty to shop and why there are peaks at those times. It is a shame that other areas of industry have not embraced the freedom and flexibility that the approach brings to the operation.


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moh
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 14:05
I agree with you Thomo, thos order pickers area darned nuisance, why do they all have to go round at once blocking the aisles.


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Callunna
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 18:23

quote:
Tardis wrote:

Open early, close around lunch for a couple of hours (except the coffee and sandwich shops of course) and then re-open in the late afternoon and go through to the early evening. More continental etc.



But the problem is, many workers can only shop in their lunch break, so if they can't be sure the Barlick shops are open they'll go elsewhere.

If most shops are closed, then people wouldn't necessarily be inclined to go into Barlick just for a brew and a buttie.

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Tardis
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 14:36
By extension, if the shops are being flexible about opening hours than there should also be other flexibilities built into the system too.

Lunch hour to me was always somewhere between 11.30 and 14.30, I know my father considers it to be midday. If you're a shift worker the times vary again.

There is always flexibility in a system, and it is a matter of finding what will actually work for all.

I would not envisage the banks taking the opportunity to provide a flexible service, and I am sure that many people would get used to any new opening hours regime.

If you are saying the shops must be open duing lunch hour then you maybe placing an unnecessary impediment upon reaching a solution which suits all parties.


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Callunna
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 18:30
No, I'm just telling it like it is.

Most people don't spend hours debating and agonising over whether they should shop locally or go for the perceived cheaper and more convenient supermarket option (notice I said 'perceived')

They couldn't give a monkeys about whether a solution suits both parties. They go for what suits them best.

Would that it were different (why have I just started talking like a Victorian?)

The plain fact is that the customer is paramount - without customers a business fails, therefore everything must be geared towards them if a business wants to thrive.

Shoppers don't shop because they want to be philanthropic or kind to shopkeepers and provide them with a living. They shop to feed, clothe and entertain themselves and their family. That's as far as their loyalty extends.

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Travis
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Posted - 11/10/2011 : 20:59
Ive posted a photo elsewhere which may be a little relevant to this thread.


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 12/10/2011 : 04:41
Travis, I'll bet it was Walmart......


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Callunna
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Posted - 27/10/2011 : 09:18
For information: I understand a website has been set up on behalf of the people opposed to the Tesco issue. 

(details TBA)

Also, the following is part of an email I have received. Again, some might find it interesting:

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Pendle Council is currently carrying out a public consultation on future strategies for our area. We all have a chance to be involved in this and make our feelings known.
 
 
On p163 edge of centre/ out of centre sites for retail are to be 'generally resisted'. Yet on p164 this is contradicted specifically for Barnoldswick with no reason given.
 
Apparently in the manufacturing/ retail development part it says there is a need for Barnoldswick to have a major retail multiple. Who has established this need?
 
There is also a public meeting for this document  at the Rainhall Centre on Nov 10th between 4 and 7pm. 

Edited by - Callunna on 29/10/2011 1:02:17 PM

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panbiker
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Posted - 29/10/2011 : 22:58
The lovebarnoldswick site posted above does not seem to have any method of signing up as a user despite the fact that it has a user logon facility. The contact option gives no information on who you are sending the information to. The only contributor to the site seems to be "Administrator" who is annonymous.

I have to say that I am not against a site such as this if the intention is to focus opinion and attract comment for discussion (as we are already doing on here). However, I cannot see how effective this is supposed to be if all the entries are from one unknown source, seems a bit pointless to me.

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I have been on the site and managed to send a request for further information and to ask who is responsible for the content

 

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Callunna
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Posted - 30/10/2011 : 00:02
Apologies if I've transgressed site rules by posting without naming the author. I'll contact them and ask if it's OK to add their name. Meanwhile I've edited my post.Go to Top of Page
panbiker
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Posted - 30/10/2011 : 10:38
Not taking a jab at you Heather. I visited the site and felt it quite strange that there was a logon facility but no method of joining up. I may well contribute once I know who I might be talking to!

As it stands at the moment it might just as well be a notice board.

Noticed yesterday that the new Spar is progressing well. They are starting to develop the forecourt area as well as the main building now.

Edited by - panbiker on 30/10/2011 10:52:42


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