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cloghopper
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Posted -  23/07/2011  :  10:43
SmileMy paternal grandmother Mary Rose nee Dixon had a sister (whose name I don't know) who was therefore a Great Aunt....? Anway this great aunt passed on a lot of information about the Thwaite/Dixon family to my brother,who gave me a copy. If anyone interested I could post it here. I don't have scanners/printeres etc. so would take a bit of time. Understand some may be in the Gargrave/Settle/Hellifield area.

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SteveR
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Posted - 29/11/2011 : 20:54
Evening all,

Still looking for the Dixons I tried to find some local authority information, I was fortunate to find somone in a planning office with some old planning records.
 
Some old cards still in exisitence, show the varying history of 3 individual houses in Kelbrook.
 
The addresses shown are for 435, 429 and 425 Colne road Kelbrook, but what is interesting is the cards have notes showing the "formerly" addresses i.e 435 formerly 19 Colne Road, 429 formerly 13 Colne Road and 425 formerly 9 Colne Road.
 
It would then follow that 3 Colne Road, Kelbrook must have become 419 Colne Road, Kelbrook.
 
The earliest date on the cards is 1965, but when the change came in is still unknown.

I still need to know why the Dixons were there, but maybe now I have a lead.

Any one out there recognise Laura Horner? She was a witness to Richard Thwaite Dixons passing in 1949.

If I read the name right, maybe there are Horners still around that have links with Dixons.

Thanks for listening

Regards

SteveR


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panbiker
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Posted - 29/11/2011 : 23:08
As you enter Kelbrook from the Colne end there are two blocks of cottages on Colne Road after passing the top of Main Street. The first is a block of three cottages which have the current numbering of 423, 421 and 419. The next block is of eight cottages and have numbering from 417 down to 403.

The current numbering stiil does not fit with the council records you have turned up. With conventional odd numbering it is hard to see how the third cottage in the first block could be number 3 unless it was sequential numbering in which case that would not then be correct for the other numbers on the next block.

If 419 was number 3 it then follows that 417 on the other block of 8 cottages would be number 1 which again does not make sense as the row has a further 7 cottages.

Google Maps Street View shows the current arrangement and numbering.

Colne Road does continue past the top of Main Street back towards Colne so the higher numbering i.e. up to current 435 would hold good.

I can only assume that there has been more than one renumbering over the years which seems a bit strange for such a small village.


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Stanley
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Posted - 30/11/2011 : 05:58
Remember that what we now know as the 'main Road' was a back street in the old days. I don't know about Kelbrook but at Sough, the row of cottages on the Kelbrook side of Sough Bridge Mill was originally known as Stone Row and numbered separately. By the 1950s the grocer's shop we had next to the mill was 199 Colne Road Sough but has been re-numbered.


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wendyf
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Posted - 30/11/2011 : 08:39
According to the caption beside a photograph in "Kelbrook in Times Past" by Victor Laycock. the section of road between the Craven Heifer and Sough was called Limestones Road until it was made up in 1929.


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SteveR
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Posted - 30/11/2011 : 13:04
Afternoon All,

I'm confused now - Ian has pointed out a flaw in my reasoning and when I look up & down the houses along Colne road it gets worse.

If I start at the primary school and work towards Earby, past the new built detached place the first block of houses are numbered 435, 433, 431 etc counting down to the "post office" (Google caption) to the last house with a Colne Road Plate on the end and this house number I can't make out but could be 413, the road turns into main street, which I cross and then start on the block of 3 that includes what I thought was no. 3.

I sort of agree with Ian as the numbers don't work, so am I back to square one?

I have more info on Richard Thwaite Dixon, he had Children, one Arthur Dixon born in 1902 and a daughter Mary Dixon born not long after, his wife was called Ada, do these names ring any bells.

Thanks for listening

Regards

SteveR


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panbiker
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Posted - 30/11/2011 : 13:38
Steve, on Google maps the markers for the Post Office (which has now closed) and the Kelbrook Fisheries chip shop are in slightly the wrong place.

The block of three you refer to is the block that should contain number 3 but that would make next door on the Earby side number 1 with 7 further cottages at the other side in the same block (all still on Colne Road).

I fully agree that it makes the information from the council very confusing.


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wendyf
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Posted - 01/12/2011 : 10:52
Richard Thwaite Dixon, farmer, is at 16 Bishop Street, Cheetham, Manchester in the 1901 census, with Ada, who he married in 1900.
In the 1911 census he is at 77 Barlow Road, Levenshulme. Described as a widower and retail butcher. He has 2 children, Arthur aged 9, and Mary aged 4.
So no luck with finding them in Kelbrook with census records.


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moh
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Posted - 01/12/2011 : 10:52


quote:
wendyf wrote:
According to the caption beside a photograph in "Kelbrook in Times Past" by Victor Laycock. the section of road between the Craven Heifer and Sough was called Limestones Road until it was made up in 1929.

The row of cottages before the garage is known as Limestones.  I am enjoying this thread, it has nothing to do with me really, but being a 'Kelbrooker' it brings back memories.


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SteveR
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Posted - 01/12/2011 : 12:13
Hi All,

Here's a possible thread - Richard T Dixon was a MASTER Butcher which means he was qualified to teach Butcher skills - As the Co-op was busy opening 8-9 branches around the area which apparently included a butcher department or butcher shop close by including Kelbrook itself - could Richard have moved to help with these?

May be this is more up Moh's street (forgive the pun) - was there a butchers or co op in Kelbrook?

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SteveR


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moh
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Posted - 02/12/2011 : 13:39
There was a co-op shop next to the church, I worked there a couple of times in my school holidays, but no co-op butcher.  We had a butcher's shop in Main Street but it was privately owned.  The co-op butchers van started coming round in late 40's early 50's.  I can still remember my grandma's shopping list on Fridays, nearly always the same - and I remember our divi number.


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SteveR
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Posted - 12/12/2011 : 20:47
Hello everyone, we all busy getting ready for the festivity?

Hope you all have a good one!

Hi Mo, any idea who owned the private butchers or what the name over the door was?

Wendy if you look up Dixons in the 1911 cencus there is a Richard Thwaite Dixons in Kelbrook, it doesn't agree with all the details as Richard still has a wife and how could he be in 2 places at the same
 time - all this is like a puzzle in a cracker

Regards

SteveR 


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moh
Silver Surfer


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Posted - 13/12/2011 : 13:48
I can't remember now, I left Kelbrook 54 years ago.  He and his wife ran it.  There was a cottage, then the butchers, then an empty shop used as a house where the Hands family lived.  Then there was an allyway to the backs of the houses, more terraced houses and a shop before the farm.


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