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gavan mccormack
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Posted -  06/09/2004  :  09:03
I am seeking clues as the whereabouts of family of Emmanuel Clegg, and his sisters, Sarah Ellen and Catherine (Kate), who lived in the early decades of the last century at an address that I thought was Baynehall Rd in Barnoldswick, but I now think must have been Rainhall Road.
Emmanuel Clegg, born around 1876, married at Skipton in June 1900 to Agnes Phelan and moved to live initially wth Agnes's brother at 8 Shaw Terrace in Barnoldswick. Agnes' brother, John D. Phelan, is described in the census of 1901 as a 'professor of music'.
One of Emmanuel's sisters, possibly Kate, probably married and became Mrs Brooks, but that is not certain.
The family originated in the Bury/Rochdale area.
Atleast at one stage they ran a bakery in Barnoldswick, perhaps a quite substantial one, also making cakes etc.
I am descended from Mary Ann Clegg, a half-sister of Emmanuel, Sarah and Ellen, who moved to Australia long ago but kept, through her family, some contact with Barnoldswick until around the Second World War, which is of course already nearly 60 years ago.
It seems to me at least possible that Emmanuel Clegg's children might have continued to live in the district, or that, through the "bakery" detail, somebody might be able to help with this.
Any descendents of Emmanuel, Sarah, or Catherine Clegg would share a common gt gt grandfather, William Clegg, with me.
So that is my query.

Hoping that Barnoldswick is flourishing.
Gavan McCormack

ps. I mostly live in Australia, but as it happens am writing from a Japanese email address since I am currently working in Japan.


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Stanley
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Posted - 06/09/2004 : 13:45
CLEGG FAMILY

No Cleggs in Barlick in 1841, 1881 or 1891 census.

The only Emanuel Clegg I could find in the 1881 census that looks like a match is this one, his birthplace is recorded as Bury.

Dwelling: 45 Cedar St
Census Place: Hulme, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341938 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3930 Folio 36 Page 9
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Chars. H. CLEGG M 35 M Manchester, Lancashire, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Carver & Gilder
Elizabeth CLEGG M 35 F Manchester, Lancashire, England
Rel: Wife
John CLEGG U 9 M Manchester, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Emanuel CLEGG U 6 M Manchester, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar

SCG index entries for CLEGG:

CLEGG, PARKINSON AND CO.
Cotton and Worsted manufacturers, Grove Shed, Earby. [Barrett’s directory, 1896)

CLEGG. FREDERICK H
Builder in Barlick c. 1900?
Barrett 1908 and 1911; builder, 39 Gisburn Road. Craven Directory, 1911: Clegg Brothers, builders, Barlick. Kelly 1922 Gives Frederick Clegg as builder of 135 Gisburn Road.

CLEGG AND BRACEWELL.
Mentioned in a report in the Craven Herald of 30/01/1931 as manufacturers in Skipton who were not members of the Skipton Manufacturers association.

CLEGG.
Name of the man sent by Burnley Ironworks to indicate the Wellhouse engine 19/06/1901. Same man was sent to inspect piston rods on the Wellhouse engine on 10/01/1900 after problems with lubricators and US Metallic Packings.

CLEGG. ALFRED
1911 Barrett. Dairy, 20 Rainhall Road, Barlick.

CLEGG. MRS Caroline
Noted in 1914 Barrett and 1922 Kelly as having dairy at 20 Rainhall Road.

CLEGG. EMMANUEL
Kelly 1922: Emmanuel Clegg, confectioner, 18 Rainhall Road.



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gavan mccormack
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 02:16
quote:

CLEGG FAMILY

No Cleggs in Barlick in 1841, 1881 or 1891 census.

The only Emanuel Clegg I could find in the 1881 census that looks like a match is this one, his birthplace is recorded as Bury.

Dwelling: 45 Cedar St
Census Place: Hulme, Lancashire, England
Source: FHL Film 1341938 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3930 Folio 36 Page 9
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Chars. H. CLEGG M 35 M Manchester, Lancashire, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Carver & Gilder
Elizabeth CLEGG M 35 F Manchester, Lancashire, England
Rel: Wife
John CLEGG U 9 M Manchester, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Emanuel CLEGG U 6 M Manchester, Lancashire, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar

SCG index entries for CLEGG:

CLEGG, PARKINSON AND CO.
Cotton and Worsted manufacturers, Grove Shed, Earby. [Barrett’s directory, 1896)

CLEGG. FREDERICK H
Builder in Barlick c. 1900?
Barrett 1908 and 1911; builder, 39 Gisburn Road. Craven Directory, 1911: Clegg Brothers, builders, Barlick. Kelly 1922 Gives Frederick Clegg as builder of 135 Gisburn Road.

CLEGG AND BRACEWELL.
Mentioned in a report in the Craven Herald of 30/01/1931 as manufacturers in Skipton who were not members of the Skipton Manufacturers association.

CLEGG.
Name of the man sent by Burnley Ironworks to indicate the Wellhouse engine 19/06/1901. Same man was sent to inspect piston rods on the Wellhouse engine on 10/01/1900 after problems with lubricators and US Metallic Packings.

CLEGG. ALFRED
1911 Barrett. Dairy, 20 Rainhall Road, Barlick.

CLEGG. MRS Caroline
Noted in 1914 Barrett and 1922 Kelly as having dairy at 20 Rainhall Road.

CLEGG. EMMANUEL
Kelly 1922: Emmanuel Clegg, confectioner, 18 Rainhall Road.





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gavan mccormack
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Posted - 07/09/2004 : 02:30
Many thanks Stanley. That is very helpful.
Cleggs did not move to Barlick (from Bury/Rochdale)till 1900, following Emmanuel's marriage to Agnes Phelan, so no appearance in earlier censuses is no surprise.
(Actually, I have Emmanuel, then aged 16, with his sisters Sarah Ellen and Caroline (21 and 17) and father William (67), at 3 India St Tottingham (or Tottington?) in Lancs for the 1891 census.)
However, Emmanuel, confectioner, of 18 Rainhall Rd (1922), and Alfred and Mrs Caroline Clegg with dairy at 20 Rainhall Rd (1911, 1914 and 1922) are certainly the family I seek.
I wonder if anyone knows any more about them, especially what happened to them after 1922....
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Doc
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2010 Posts
Posted - 20/01/2005 : 22:47
MESSAGE LEFT IN THE GUESTBOOK

re thread, emanual clegg, sorry could not re find the thread, but please could a forum user let poter know, was an emanual clegg of newhey(rochdale) buttorworth paris , owend the wood yard and lived in what is now milnrow memorial park(prior to m62) thanks.
[23:28:23 - 20/01/2005]


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 21/01/2005 : 09:49
Why doesn't the poster of this message log on and do a search via the home page? The name Clegg rings a bell with me from when I was at Ellenroad. There may be stuff in the archive that I didn't index as it wasn't directly associated with Barlick. A call to Local Studies at Rochdale Library would be a good idea.


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handlamp
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1100 Posts
Posted - 21/01/2005 : 15:09
The Clegg's were falling over each other when I was at Milnrow (1951-58) and there wasn't a lack of them in Rochdale either


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Mixman
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Posted - 22/01/2005 : 10:42
Only Clegg record I can find in Thornton in Craven Parish Records is:

1838/06/10
marriage
Clegg Jonathan, full age, widr, labourer, of Kelbrooke and Susannah Nutter (B)
witnesses Richard Rigby, John Rigby
Father John Clegg, farmer

1838/06/10
marriage, Nutter Susannah, full age, spr, , of Kelbrooke & Jonathan Clegg (B)
witnesses Richard Rigby, John Rigby
father James Nutter, weaver

John



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Sid Barker
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Posted - 01/08/2011 : 17:30
I have some knowledge of, and photos of,  Caroline (Carrie) Clegg. Should you stilll be interestedGo to Top of Page
rosilee
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Posted - 01/08/2011 : 18:39
There was a Cleggs bread,pies and cakes shop in Earby  in the 1930s-to late 1940s ,next door to Varleys butchers on Victoria Road ,They baked all the stuff in Barlick and it was brought to the Earby shop and they had a shop in Barlick  too I believe .


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Stanley
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 05:47
I think the Emmanuel Clegg that was nagging me was one of the original promoters of the Ellenroad Mill.

Sid, welcome and thanks for the offer. Someone may pick up the reference and come back to us.


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