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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart
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Opening text too long so I've moved it to the first response.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk
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thomo
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Posted - 24/11/2009 : 11:43
When we were issued with "Ration Packs" whilst on exercise the contents often included items that had disappeared from shops earlier, "Spangles" were just as good as I remembered them.
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Posted - 24/11/2009 : 14:19
In the current recession there are web sites selling food cheap which has passed its `best before' date but is still safe. Some of it is MoD foods apparently.
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belle
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Posted - 24/11/2009 : 15:06
Wabbit i know from my time in Scotland, and 'funnered'..pronounced foo nard with a kind of half d half t sound at the end, the first spelling i have given it comes from my assumption that it is scots for foundered..in other words wrecked!
all the other words i have heard too, and like you they remind me of times gone by as do phrases like "I'll knock you (thee) into t'middle o' next week!"
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Stanley
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Posted - 24/11/2009 : 16:09
Cathy, I found myself using Higgledy-Piggledy in an article. Doesn't it mean anything to you?
Aren't Spangles still available and called 'Star Bursts'?
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 24/11/2009 : 16:40
Stanley, not sure if it's the same base,
Higgledy Piggledy, my black hen
she lays eggs for gentlemen
sometimes nine sometimes ten
Higgledy Piggledy my black hen
it was a school yard games rhyme in 1940s
"You can only make as well as you can measure"
Joseph Whitworth
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Posted - 25/11/2009 : 03:48
Thinking about it, Higgledy Piggledy to me means that something isn't in order, it's jumbled up, like a pile of files that have been dropped and land out of order.
I remember the rhyme Bodger, must have lasted awhile cause I wasn't in the schoolyard til nearly the mid '60's. (Just thought I'd make that clear ... :) .)
All thru the fields and meadows gay .... Enjoy
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Stanley
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Posted - 25/11/2009 : 06:06
That's always been my understanding, scattered, untidy, not in any regular order. Dialect word recognising Chaos Theory? Is it used all over the country?
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Stanley
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Posted - 25/11/2009 : 06:08
Gearce has raised a separate topic on 'bring a plate'. Equivalent whan I was a lad was a 'Jacob's Join'.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 27/11/2009 : 07:38
When we were young, my brothers and I were sent with a jug to the farm to get soor-douk (or soor-dook) - buttermilk which our mother used for baking ...... We used to enjoy having a sip on the way home.
There was a song we used to sing about a 'soor-dook cairt' ...... It contained the words "Ah'll drive ye intae Glesga in ma soor-dook cairt" ...... That's all I remember ...... Maybe someone recalls the song.
LANG MEY YER LUM REEK
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Posted - 27/11/2009 : 07:40
Oh, I just love all this 'olde' English. I read a lot of books and am always drawn into the language (but sorry - I cannae help thee wi thart one, Gearce)
In a book that I am reading at the moment (set in Somerset in the late 1700's) I have come across an entire family described as 'mazed'. ( the word 'a'mazing keeps jumping into my mind as I read and there must be a connection). I get the distinct feeling that 'mazed' means...to be a bit queer...touched by the sun...a sandwich short of a picnic...one sausage short of a barbeque...
get your people to phone my people and we will do lunch...MAZ |
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Posted - 27/11/2009 : 08:10
Heard this little ditty / rhyme sung today ...
Yu canna shift ya Granny off the bus,
Oh yu canna shift ya Granny off the bus,
She is ya Mammy's Mammy,
Oh she is ya Mammy's Mammy,
Oh yu canna shift your Granny off the bus.
Anyone know it?
All thru the fields and meadows gay .... Enjoy
Take Care...Cathy |
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Posted - 27/11/2009 : 08:25
Slightly different wording as I remember it Cathy
Oh ye cannae shove yer granny aff the bus,
Oh ye cannae shove yer granny aff the bus,
Oh ye cannae shove yer granny
Fur she's yer mammy's mammy
Oh ye cannae shove yer granny aff the bus.
LANG MEY YER LUM REEK
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Posted - 27/11/2009 : 08:26
I have an old vinyl (1950's) LP of Robin Hall and Jimmy McGregor. I think it's on there. Haven't played it for a long time though.
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Tizer
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Posted - 27/11/2009 : 09:41
Maz, you're right about the meaning of `maze' here in the West Country - perhaps it comes from being confused in a maze.
I looked it up and chanced on this first paragraph of an article in The Independent: "If, in this age of instant nationwide communication, you think that regional dialects have died off in the UK, you must be a bit of a noggerhead (as they say in Somerset), or perhaps a nizgul (from the Black Country), or you're a bit cakey (Staffordshire), or batchy (Essex), mazed (Devon and Somerset), niddy-noddy (Isle of Man), or just gormless (Yorkshire)."
The man who perhaps knows most about the history and dialect of south Somerset is Bridgwater man Roger Evans and there is an article on dialect by him on this BBC page. Read it through for interest but because it's funny too!
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Posted - 28/11/2009 : 02:06
We used 'cakey' to describe someone who was nice but lacked certain social qualities, or something that was not particularly to our liking.
When things are higgledy-piggledy they are 'tapsalteerie' - topsy-turvy
LANG MEY YER LUM REEK
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Dialect and other regional matters.
