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Tizer
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04/01/2008
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Help, Help! I've read the Forum FAQ and used the advice on how to insert smilies - but when I do so (put them in square brackets), they don't appear on the forum page as symbols. They remain as text.
I'll test it here - these are keyed in: [:)] [;)]
And again here, but these are copied and pasted from the FAQ: [:)] [;)]
I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.11 on Ubuntu Linux.
I wonder what I'm doing wrong? [:(]
If all these work this time, I'll be very embarassed! [:I]
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Doc
Keeper of the Scrolls
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Posted - 04/01/2008 : 11:31
I think you maybe reading an old topic on the smiley's when we used to use what is called "Forum Code". We have moved on a bit since then.
Here is how we do it now.
In the editor reply box at the bottom of the topic, click on the Smiley Icon on the editor toolbar, it should open a small window full of smiley's. Click on the one you want to insert into the topic and the software will do the rest. 
TTFN - Doc
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Tizer
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Posted - 04/01/2008 : 11:49
Well I'll be blowed, so it does. I bow to your superior knowledge! 
Perhaps you could delete the bit from the Forum FAQ page?
http://www.oneguyfrombarlick.co.uk/forum_faq.asp?page=forums
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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart
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Posted - 04/01/2008 : 14:32
No, leave the bum instructions on there.... It might cut down on the number of smilies...... Humbug!
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 04/01/2008 : 15:10
My other forum uses codes or clicks for emoticons, a much more straight forward way of using them assuming you don't have an aversion to them....
They have their uses, you can make smart alec comments without having to explain you're being sarcastic for example.
Need computer work ?
"http://www.stsr.co.uk" 
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Stanley
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Posted - 04/01/2008 : 16:19
Really.......
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Tizer
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Posted - 04/01/2008 : 16:31
Don't worry Stanley, I'm not a great lover of smilies but I like the occasional one now and then - it's one of those personal things, some people love 'em, some don't. I'm also not too keen on the flashing thingies - I need to go and lie down for a while after a bout of those!
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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart
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Posted - 05/01/2008 : 07:53
I just enjoy being an old-fashioned Luddite on this subject Tizer..... The IT equivalent of being pedantic and protecting the language.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Tizer
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Posted - 06/01/2008 : 12:18
Oh dear Stanley - you'll set me off if you mention language. Over the last 15 years one of my tasks has been editing scientific journal articles and technical news articles. The quality of writing has plummeted in that time. I'm seriously concerned that humans soon won't be able to communicate with each other except as they did thousands of years ago - grunt, grunt, squeak, squeak etc. I'm not concerned with beautiful prose but with simple, precise, meaningful communication. And how can democracy work if the government can't communciate with the population and vice versa?
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the big cock-ups that are happening now are due to failure in written communication. I've had articles to edit from people in important jobs and I haven't been able to figure out what they were trying to say. An example is confusion over the meanings of "substitute" and "replace". There is a tendency to use the former when intending the latter. So Gordon Brown might decide to go for nuclear power but one of his minions sends out a message saying: "Nuclear power will substitute fossil fuel power in the UK". Then a press hack "corrects" this statement and writes "Nuclear power will be substituted by fossil fuel power in the UK". And then we don't know what Brown meant!
At least I find military people still able to communicate - which is a relief!
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Posted - 06/01/2008 : 14:06
I found an example of bizarre English in the local paper this morning....five people had been arrested for an offence they had committed together and in the next sentence the reporter had written "The quintet all came from the same place!" which I thought a very odd choice of word!
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Posted - 06/01/2008 : 14:22
I have rather a good example of misinterpreted language from when I was a TV/Video repair man. When the first video recorders hit the domestic market, dealers were sent a full service manual for the new model. The Ferguson 3V23 was a groundbreaking machine in that it was the first machine to use microprocessors for various control functions. The machine was manufactured by JVC and badged for Ferguson who in turn manufactured TV's badged for JVC. The Thorn EMI concern and JVC had a partnership for developing technology at the time.
Anyway back to the VCR, this was quite a beasty of a machine with electronic push button controls, front loading, motorised eject and other niceties it also had the first Infra Red remote control used for VCR's. Now when I said the machines were supplied with a service manual, I meant a proper service manual. The one in question ran to about 800 pages, with exploded diagrams of every conceivable mechanical part, about 200 pages of parts and descriptions, circuit diagrams for every board in the machine and a 265 page circuit description covering theory and how the 6 microprocessors in the machine were integrated into the design. Various IC's had been slowly creeping into use for the last few years and numerous manufacturers training courses had taught me how to fault find on digital devices, but now we had microprocessors under the lid as well, a bit of light reading was required!
I took the massive service manual home at the weekend and set about reading the technical circuit description. The machine was built with 6 circuit boards around the mechanical chassis and tape transport mechanism. It was a VHS machine so the transport system was pretty familiar with a few extra bits added on. I started to read the circuit descriptions for each of the individual microprocessor controlled boards. Most of the circuit description made sense and I was rather pleased with myself that my existing knowledge was up to scratch, that was, until I a came across the "Younger Amplifier". They were all over the place, nicely distributed throughout the machine, in fact there were hundreds of the things. This was a new one on me, never heard of it, must be some cunning new technology developed by the Jap techno guys for the new whiz-bang video. I searched all my technical literature for an inkling of what this bit of circuitry did but could find nothing. I was fully conversant with the operational characteristics of Colpitts oscillators, synchronous and asynchronous multi-vibrators, pulse induction, feedback regulation, chopper technology, hall effect and countless other techniques of circuit construction but this Younger thing had me beat. I resolved to ring the tech guys at Thorn in Manchester when I got back to work, I had to know, it was a bit like "the missing link". As soon as I got back to work on the Monday I rang the video tech support guys and described the problem I was having with the circuit description. I was rather glad that they agreed with me that it did'nt make sense as it was written and they too were scratching their heads for an explanantion. "We'll have a word with the lads in Japan and get back to you", said the techno guy, so I left it like that and waited for the call back. Later that day I got the call.
"Its a Pre-Amp", said the guy in a rather jovial tone, "simple as that, the Japs don't have an equivalent word for Pre, so they used their nearest equivalent in the translation, hence Younger", "Substitute Pre for Younger everywhere you read it and it will all makes sense", "Sorry about that, bit of an oversite when we printed the manual, we'll update it in the next release".
An so it did, simple really but I had been bewitched by the new technology, I convinced myself that It had to be something new and different. I always read service manuals with more of an open mind from then on "Younger Amp" Doh!
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Stanley
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Posted - 06/01/2008 : 16:39
Loved that one Ian. I used to have a manual for the first Honda 50cc pedal bike and it was hilarious! Tizer, I couldn't agree with you more..... report writing especially. The chairman of Moore's at Liverpool once told me that the report I wrote for them supporting the case for the demolition under SMC of the Dee engine was the best report he had ever read. Chuffed! I have a book, recommended to me by my mate Susi in California, 'The Modern Researcher' by Barzun and Graff. It's brilliant and I would recommend it to anyone. Susi also wrote a paper for her students on how to write essays and that's brilliant as well. I have an idea it's on the site somewhere, I'll have a furtle. After I had read it my tutors at Lancaster wanted to know where I had gone for the operation.....
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 07/01/2008 : 10:48
Ian, your service manual experience reminds me of my new Miele fridge/freezer, bought recently when the old machine expired. Page 36 of the manual has a "Problem solving guide". Included in this something new to me - a table with the title "Noises" and divided into two columns headed "Normal noises" and "What causes them"....
Brrrrr... Humming noise made by the motor (compressor).
Blubb. blubb....A gurgling noise can be heard when the coolant is circulating through the pipes.
Click.... Clicking sounds are made when the thermostat switches the motor on and off.
Sssrrrrr..... On multi-zone and frost-free appliances you can sometimes just hear the movement of air circulating inside the appliance.
I wonder how they translate these noises in the other language versions of the manual?
By the way, after delivery of the fridge/freezer I needed to swap the door to hang on the opposite side, which the saleman had said was easy to do and I had done on the old machine. But when I came to do the job and removed some of the plastic shroud i found that a "Torx 15" screwdriver was needed to remove the anti-tamper screws. I'm only an average guy and don't have such things so I rang around and found the village mechanic had one. Walked there and back and removed the screws. Got to the next stage, took a bit off and found I now needed a Torx 25. Back to mechanic again. Finally got the job done and did the trip to return the tool and its bits.
Why put anti-tamper screws on the fridge door? Are they frightened that vandals go around switiching people's fridge doors when they are on holiday?
Belle, perhaps the quintet really were musicians too! Did they steal violins?
Stanley, I'm a bit worried by your statement: "I have an idea it's on the site somewhere, I'll have a furtle." If you went for a furtle in Blackburn you would be going for what my mum called a "Jimmy Riddle", i.e pointing Percy at the porcelain!
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Ringo
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Posted - 07/01/2008 : 10:52
Torx screws arent anti tamper, they are standard use in engineering, we use them all the time at work.
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