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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
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handlamp
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Posted - 09/07/2011 : 14:50
Due to my carig duties I rarely get time to comment on OG nowadays but the News of the World case has certainly endorsed my confirmed opinions of today's politicians of all parties and their, so called, advisors as being rather wet behind the ears.
Old press secretaries like Joe Haines and Bernard Ingham would soon have frog marched this lot off the screen.


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thomo
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Posted - 09/07/2011 : 15:54
I have just read that Sam Alardice reckons that Margaret Thatcher killed English football, and that kids are suffering because of it, they're not fit! There is more to life than football, if anyone killed it, it was themselves, if the kids are not fit, it is their parents fault.


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belle
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Posted - 09/07/2011 : 23:15
Hi Hand lamp, lovely to see you popping in!


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Bradders
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Posted - 10/07/2011 : 01:59
I have no problem with Messrs. Farrer and Co. representing  our dear Queen..... (gawd bless her guv !).

But I do think they could be a little more careful in their choice of other clients.....

For instance , one R. Murdoch , and another filthy rich ars#h#le who was my daughter's  first  husband.....

Ah Well ....it looks like they will be busier than usual soon .....

Time to buy shares ?  (I won't.......The Digger probably  own them now, anyway)


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Stanley
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Posted - 10/07/2011 : 05:24
Ted, quote from the Calf Hall book:

I consulted with a friend of mine who is an old railwayman and a trusted adviser. He says that until post-WW2 the capacity of a standard truck was 13 tons and after that was slightly larger at 16 tons.

June 1994 the Chinook flew ito the Mull of Kintyre. Board og enquiry didn't specify the fault but exonerated the two pilots. Then two senior officers interfered and blamed the pilots. Seven years later it will be announced today that they were blameless. About time! The families were right all along. Now we need to know why this miscarriage of justice happened and what the real cause was. 

I shall buy a couple of copies of the Newrs of the Screws today and put them in archival folders. Should show a small profit when the kids are clearing up after I die!

Michael. don't mention Ashcroft, it upsets the natives!


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Stanley
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Posted - 10/07/2011 : 05:50
Good profile on Nick Davies on R4 5:45 this morning. Worth listening to. Couldn't help wondering what Paul Foot would have had to say about all this.

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handlamp
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Posted - 10/07/2011 : 12:46
Stanley, the capacity I gave you, referred too mineral wagons of course, which included coal.  For general freight it would be 10 tons. 


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Stanley
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Posted - 11/07/2011 : 04:04
Noted Ted, thanks. In the back of your head, have you got any figures for demurrage charges for wagons in the sidings?

Heard some dicussion on The Week in Westminster last night and one of the contributors seemed to be certain that the next surprise will be Rupert Murdoch abandoning the BSkyB bid and perhaps even selling his remaining papers. They were also convinced that Rebekah Wade/Brooks had only survived because she is a human shield for James Murdoch. Interesting predictions. We shall no doubt see whether they are accurate or not.

I wonder if the people who have been sniping at Lewis Hamilton for being too aggressive will say anything about Massa trying to barge him out of the way on the last bend in the Grand Prix yesterday. Bits of cars flying off but young Lewis wasn't having it and kept the place. That's what it is all about!


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Posted - 11/07/2011 : 10:15


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Stanley wrote:


Heard some dicussion on The Week in Westminster last night and one of the contributors seemed to be certain that the next surprise will be Rupert Murdoch abandoning the BSkyB bid and perhaps even selling his remaining papers. They were also convinced that Rebekah Wade/Brooks had only survived because she is a human shield for James Murdoch. Interesting predictions. We shall no doubt see whether they are accurate or not.

One can only hope.....Well that's not true, actually ..... I have emailed my MP....

......I hear on Twitter , that "The Sun On Sunday Limited " was Incorporated on Friday...


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handlamp
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Posted - 11/07/2011 : 16:10
Stanley, thats a good one and I shall have to do a bit of research to be sure (Tempus fugit, and all that), very much off the back of my head around 1950, I think it was about 3 bob a day, whilst siding rent was 1/6d. Calf Hall wagons ,which I presume you're thinking of, would be privately owned up to around 1947/8 and would incur siding rent, not demurage of course.

Edited by - handlamp on 11/07/2011 4:16:23 PM


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Bradders
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Posted - 11/07/2011 : 18:47
I have just watched Sebastian Vettel's  Top Gear lap in an "ordinary car"......Astounding !  (1min 44 seconds... and fastest ever)

......and what a thoroughly nice bloke too....

Worth a watch on I-Player if you haven't already seen it .

The program also had a feature about buying second-hand cars , and I felt it reinforced the view that I hold.......that one should  Not Buy a NEWLY BUILT  car , unless  high mileage is envisaged . Apart from anything else,  it hurts the planet.....


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Bradders
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Posted - 11/07/2011 : 18:58
The pressure is mounting.......!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8630545/Shareholders-sue-News-Corp-for-failing-to-take-early-action-on-phone-hacking-scandal.html

........and Dennis Skinner wants Murdoch deported !


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Bradders
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 01:07
P.S. Yeah , but ...... Thanks Digger mate , we can watch the Golf ...eh !

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/10/rupert-murdoch-phone-hacking-cameron?INTCMP=SRCH


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Stanley
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 04:47
Thanks for that Ted. Straight into the index and the book!

So Rebekah rang the Browns to let them know that she knew their new baby had Cystic Fibrosis. What a nice woman. What a way to earn a living. Apart from the new examples of criminal activities at Newscorp papers what interests me is the fact that all this was allowed to happen. Either the management knew and ignored it or they were 'managing' so badly that they didn't know what was happening in their own business. Either way they aren't fit to have control of anything. I have this feeling that as long as the profits were being made the Murdoch family were quite happy. Remember that even though it has shareholders, the company is run as a family firm, the Murdochs have total control.This raises the question of the role of the shareholders.

It was Frank Field on 'The Week in Westmisnster' that said he thought Murdoch would kick the BSkyB takeover into touch. This is exactly what he has done by getting it referred to the Competition Commission. In effect this gives at least 32 months for the froth to subside. His totally cynical calculation is that this keeps the bid alive. It remains to be seen what Parliament has to say about this.

Anyone interested in the NHS should read the major report in Private Eye this week by Dr Phil Hammond and Andrew Bousfield. The last time Phil did a report like this it eventually led to the enquiry on heart surgery and changes in NHS policy.

I wouldn't like to be in Commander John Yates' shoes today.  He is up before a select committee at the Commons and will have to answer some searching questions about the mismanagement of the police investigation into the Newscorp affair.


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Posted - 13/07/2011 : 01:26
Looking at the morning's front page of "The Sun" on-line at 1:20 am, I have the feeling that they are "going for broke".......

Despicable non journalism , aimed at increasing revenue.

Do they know that their end is nigh too , perhaps ?


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