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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt
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SIX GENERATIONS. I WAS THE FIFTH ,& THE OLDEST MAN TO JOIN THE NAVY SINCE WW2. I ENTERED THE RN. ON MARCH 13th 1972 JUST UNDER THE AGE LIMIT OF 32. BASIC TRAINING WAS AT HMS RALEIGH (TORPOINT) AND I WAS MADE CLASS LEADER IN THE FIRST WEEK. 22 MEN FROM ALL OVER THE UK MADE UP COLLINGWOOD CLASS 11, JOHN GREENBANK FROM EARBY WAS IN MY CLASS. WE ALL WORKED HARD AND WON THE "CAKE"FOR THE BEST TURNOUT EACH OF THE SIX WEEKS WE WERE THERE. I WAS AWARDED THE CAPTAINS PRIZE FOR THE HIGHEST OVERALL MARKS AND AT "PASSING OUT" PARADE, I WAS PRESENTED WITH MY GOLD INSIGNIA BY PRINCESS ANNE. PART TWO OF TRAINING TOOK PLACE AT HMS SULTAN(GOSPORT) THE NAVY MARINE ENGINEERING SCHOOL. JOHN GREENBANK PROVED HIMSELF TO BE A GOOD ATHLETE AND MY LADS TOOK THE LIONS SHARE OF FIRSTS ON SPORTS DAY. AT THE END OF PART TWO TRAINING THREE OF US STAYED AT SULTAN TO DO THE SSMEM COURSE HAVING GAINED THE MARKS REQUIRED FOR ACCELERATED ADVANCEMENT, THE OTHERS WERE DRAFTED TO SHIPS. A FURTHER TWO MONTHS WERE SPENT ON TRAINING AND I THEN JOINED HMS GRENVILLE(FRIGATE) FOR SEA TRAINING. THUS IT BEGAN. MORE TO FOLLOW.
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handlamp
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Posted - 29/10/2009 : 14:55
D/MX 673566
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frankwilk
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Posted - 29/10/2009 : 19:23
D/MX 673566
wow swing that lantern lol
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Tizer
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Posted - 31/10/2009 : 11:48
Thomo, Frank - Thanks for raising this thread again. It started (and lapsed) before I joined OGFB and so it's new to me. I've thoroughly enjoyed reading through it, even if I'm a landlubber (I almost feel seasick watching ships on TV!) and don't understand all the jargon.
In January 2008 I put some photos on OGFB scanned from a brochure given out at the 1984 Plymouth Navy Days. So for anyone interested in late 20th Century warships, see this page. (scroll down the page to view them)
Edited by - Tizer on 31/10/2009 11:49:02
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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt
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Posted - 31/10/2009 : 14:45
Your welcome Tizer, is not "Tizer" a beverage that used to be brewed in the local area somewhwere. The jargon/nautical terminology is what sets life afloat apart from all other things, between us I am sure we can provide a useful and humourous glossary of the more common and otherwise terms, And after all, lot of everyday expressions have their roots in seaborne jargon. The original definitions of some phrases may have been lost in the fulness of time, others have been modified as time progresses, to embrace developing technology. Ships used to "Sail" fairly obvious, Then they "Steamed" again, obvious, both of the former still do just that, In all other forms of propulsion, a vessel "Proceeds" I served at a time when most RN ships were steam driven and saw the change to other power, nuclear and Gas Turbine, Some ships combined steam with gas turbine "COSAG" Combined steam and gas turbine. "COGOG" Large gas turbines for speed and smaller ones for cruising, or both for full power. I recall a memo being sent out to make the point that these latter COGOG ships "Do not gas" nor do COSAG ships "Steam or gas" dependant on which was in use at the time, "THEY PROCEED!" Diesel vessels do not "Motor" they also proceed. Nuclear vessels also I understand "Proceed" whereas in actual fact they do indeed steam? It does'nt take much to get a bit of confusion going. The term "Larboard" was replaced by "Port" to end confusion. Larboard and Starboard when shouted from the masthead in a howling gale could cause serious damage if missheard. I will be back shortly with a selection of terms as they come to mind, meanwhile if there is anything that you do not understand, then ask.
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Posted - 31/10/2009 : 15:42
Diesel vessels do not "Motor" they also proceed and Stink.
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Posted - 31/10/2009 : 15:45
Sling your Hook Is that related to slinging a hammock and going off to bed ?? over to Tomoh Oppo
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thomo
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Posted - 31/10/2009 : 17:48
"Sling yer ook" or "Thin out" polite for "Bugger off". "swallow the hook" Leave the Navy "Mob or Andrew" "Anchor faced" RN through and through. "Curl one down" or "Snap one off", defacate!. "Hot fog" what steam engines run on. What a lot of non seagoing people do not know, is just how much the use of bad language used to be frowned upon by the powers that be, spitting and whistling being two more. Swear words were therefore replaced by phrases as in "Sling yer ook". I grew up with some of the less forceful expresions "Cheese it" or shut up, to cheese something RN is the way in which some ropes or cordage are arranged for more ceremonial occasions. "Flaked out" ashore means at best comotose, at worst, dead. Ropes or hoses laid out much like a jumping cracker, grab one end and run, it will follow you, ending up in a straight line, flaked out. Aloop in a rope is not a loop, it is a bight. I like some of the really old expressions. "Brought up" or "Fetched up" Stopped suddenly, as in "Brought up, all standing". If you stop a moving object such as a ship suddenly, many parts try to keep moving, in a sailing ship the masts which were not only tall, but of considerable weight, could overcome the backstays and topple, or "Go by the board" Total disaster. "See a grey goose at a mile" at dawn, means visibility imroving rapidly."Haul yer wind" another version of shut up. Toilet arrangements on board are called "The heads" again from the days of sail, also known then as "Foc'tle heads". These primitive ablution arrangements were in the forpeak either side of the Bowsprit, can you imagine trying to "Snap one off" in the Roaring forties or off Cape Wrath with Neptunes own toilet flushing arrangement hitting your "Arris", I was a "Pompey Rating", Portsmouth, Pompey is as widely used a word ashore as in the "Mob" I have never heard a civvie refer to Plymouth as "Guz", wonder where that comes from?. Individal Steak Pies to create now, more Navy Speak later.
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 09:04
What's for scran " Babies Heads " now that would get a few folk guessing.
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thomo
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 09:08
It would indeed Frank, so would "S*it on a raft".
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 11:18
LOL
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Tizer
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 12:21
Are the `babies heads' steak puddings as in the army? I've no idea about the raft one, except it might be the equivalent of messing up on your own front doorstep?
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thomo
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 15:06
Spot on with the first Tizer, the other being "Devilled kidneys on toast". Try this one, "To catch the boat up". and how about "Goffered" or "Hoolex" Your best mate could be your "Oppo" or "Winger" oft shortened to "Wings". The Padre was "The sin Bosun", Dentist, "Toothwright", Chief Yeoman, "Bunting Tosser" The various electrical ratings "Greenies", Engine room department "Purplies". Naval Policemen are the Regulating Branch, "Crushers" "Jossmen", I recall on HMS Blake whilst awaiting the arrival of a new Fleet Chief Joss, someone wrote in felt tip in the heads "The new Joss arrived today by pogo stick, the new Joss was FCRPO, "Zebedee", His first job was to uncover the felt tip artist, serious offence defacing a ship!
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Posted - 01/11/2009 : 21:17
"To catch the boat up".
Would that mean " Stopped Tot " 
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Tizer
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Posted - 02/11/2009 : 20:29
Was it on here that I read about a naval vessel that was the only one with its name written in black instead of white? Something to do with the person it was named after coming to grief, I seem to recall. (Perhaps it's earlier in the thread...!)
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Posted - 03/11/2009 : 20:21
Earlier in this thread a couple of you mentioned the weight of 6-inch shells. This set me looking for an old book on my shelves from my childhood - "Britain's Wonderful Fighting Forces". I think it was published during WWII as a bit of propaganda to boost the population and services. It had this picture to illustrate the weights of shells of different calibre.
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