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Stanley
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Posted -  11/01/2009  :  06:04
New Year, new topic. If you want to see the old one do a forum search for same title but 2008.


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Stanley
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 07:13
Frank, eberything seems to be pointing towards a simpler and more honest way of life in all fields of personal life. My blood boils when I see the conspicuous consumption of the rich. It's an insult to the poor people starving to support that level of wealth. I'm not against marit but as I have so often said before, I hate unearned privilege.


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belle
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 09:52
Apparantly it's the conspicuous spending of the rich that is going to get the economy back on it's feet!!..being a simple person with only common sense to guide me I can't really understand all these measures they are institiuting to try and sort things...firstly I would have thought it was important to reward savers...they are the ones keeping things stable, secondly i would have thought it was essential to compel failing banks to pass on any interest rate cuts ( you can see a contradiction here ..if we cut interest rates savers will lose out..but why do they have to have the same rate?) Thirdly I would have thought it was obvious to remove incompetant people from their posts. I also think it would be useful to have some sort of regulation on greed..just how much profit were shops etc making when they can reduce things by 50% quite happily and still function normally?
I don't have too much problem with inherited wealth if someone put in the work and passed the benefits on. I have a huge problem with the sort of wealth that people have aquired in the western world by extorting their fellow men and deceiving their customers and those they work for. But as we have given up on many of the traditional moralities such as honesty and fair dealing, we will not change things untill peoples values change.


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tripps
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Posted - 11/03/2009 : 11:35
On a lighter note what grabbed my attention today was SPOTIFY. It's a music sharing site which was in the news last week when it was hacked, and lots of users' passwirds were stolen. Tried it today - the free version - no personal details required, and it is amazing. Loads of tracks, even the weird stuff which I listen to, and almost instant play, no loading and buffering etc. Now working my way through ten versions of Minglewood blues,  a hundred John Henrys, and the complete works of Lonnie Donegan!  I suppose you'll tell me you've been using for ages, or I'll catch viruses etc, but for me it's the best site since Pandora stopped sending to the UK. GIve it a go......


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Stanley
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Posted - 12/03/2009 : 06:14
Find me a web address for 'The Terror of Highway 101' (With his black denim jacket and his motorcycle boots and a jerkin with an eagle on the back......)


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Stanley
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Posted - 12/03/2009 : 06:16
The two mass shootings..... As regards the 17 year old. Can anyone doubt that given the availability of guns, exposure to the levels of violence see ni 'shoot 'em up' films and computer games has an influence on the perpetrators?


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frankwilk
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Posted - 12/03/2009 : 06:38
Talking about putting a Tax on Sweets, is there no aspect of our lives politicos don't want to be involved with !!!!!!!!!!. Once they won with Smoking they just had to turn the spotlight on to something else. I suggest we have every MP weighed and if they are overweight their pay should be stopped until they are within the correct band. Oh and if they drink alcohol or smoke the same should apply until they have stopped. 
Looks like chocs, fags, and booze will only be available to the Rich, the Poor will be able to have Bread and Water.



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melteaser
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Posted - 12/03/2009 : 07:27
I don't think it's the sweets that are the problem. What about the take-aways? i would have thought they are far more damaging.


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Stanley
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 06:52
I've been watching the reactions to the shameful language used by the protest against the homecoming troops. Such wriggling about! How come it was possible to prosecute a woman for reading a list of names and yet it seems that equal treatment wasn't handed out to the protesters. Mind you, this is dangerous because we get into the minefield of which action was right. The prosecution of the woman at Downing Street was overkill, the radical Muslim protest was underkill. Where is the balance? Who decides?

I see that at last they are cracking down on Doncaster.  Private Eye could have something to say about this, they have been banging on about Martin and Donnygate for years.

The report on social services... The one thing that nobody has mentioned is the shameful run-down of the service all over the country for years. If you underfund a vital service like this and attack the status of the practitioners you eventually reap the harvest and new IT systems won't solve that problem.


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Stanley
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 06:55
By the way, did you see the Audit Office report on the IT system for the Justice Department? Also, the new destroyers are going to be sent to sea without the anti aircraft systems they are supposed to carry? Late and over budget and even when they are launched they will be useless for at least two years. We are looking at incompetence again.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 08:08
Incompetence   The Banks,  Woolies, Goverment, Local Goverment  it's all around us. Avarice has blinded people to what has been going on, as long as we had the House Prices Rising, and as much Credit as we wanted  we let it go on. People only get riled when they are unhappy.  The Dole was always set at the amount that kept people off the streets, and stopped them protesting.
Today in our local paper  Director of Social Care & Well Being Salary  c £107,000. Now you used to get £107 k for adding value like a Director of an Engineering company etc.
Now it is Service Providers who looked at the Engineering Director and said  " I want some off that I'm worth it " Well I'm afraid we can't afford it anymore . I have just e-mailed the Chief Excutive of Aberdeen and asked what's wrong with the Deputy of Social Care & Well Being, Not Good Enough to become the Director ??? poor choice of Deputy then.  Morning rant over



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tripps
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 08:47
This is from today's Telegraph.

What's the difference between Bernard Madoff and Gordon Brown? Answer: one has drained fortunes from gullible victims, plundering their income and savings to create an illusion of prosperity. The other is going to jail

The other impressive matter is the speed of the whole procedings. It is only weeks since the swindle came to light, and the guy is now in jail, and in stark contrast to Lord Ahmed he is highly unlikely to be released after a fortnight. If this case was here, it would take a couple of years to come to trial, and he would probably get off.


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Stanley
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 09:39
They said there was no plea bargain. Hmmmmm.... Ask yourself if the powers that be wanted Madov and his Ponzi scheme hanging out to dry for two or three years or a quick trial and bury the bad publicity for the system.

I listeed to the Mighty Godron playing politics and avoiding answering the real questions on You and Yours the other day. We need a different system of government, politics has gone crazy. Ask yourself if a judge in a court of law would put up with prevarication like that. Root of the word prevaricate is to straddle or be bow-legged. Now there's an image to cultivate, all these bow-legged politicians waddling round, cruelly deformed by their years in politics!


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HerbSG
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 09:59
Helicopter down on way to oil rig.  16 missing, 1 dead, 1 seriously hurt.  The debris spread over an 11km area, hardly seems that the craft made a landing, sounds more like an in air explosion.  All were wearing survival suits, good for UP TO 24 hours which ends about 7.30a.m. Toronto time.  All equipped with locator signals....oh but none of the signals activated!  Hell of a way to go to work.


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belle
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Posted - 13/03/2009 : 11:26
So sad Herb. I hope they find some of the missing alive.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 16/03/2009 : 19:01
Chief medical Officer is soumding like the Prime Minister. Tax is an issue for the Goverment not someone who appears to be on some sort of crusade.
It won't be long before when you turn up at the Drs and the Nurse says jump on the scales, and if you are overweight they will refuse to treat you. Like the cardiologist who wouldn't carry out Heart Surgery on people who continued to smoke.
I listened to one today who said look at " the sucess of the Smoking Ban " I think it will be 30 years before that can be quantified.We may see a lot of todays children who are stuck at home with Mum and Dad puffing away, when before they used to go down the pub to smoke(Mum & Dad that is)!!!

Edited by - frankwilk on 16/03/2009 7:10:46 PM



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