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mick_pye
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I've had a good read around the forum but can't really find anything. I admit this is a bit of needle in a haystack..but I've traced my family back to the Nutters of Far Banks Farm near Newchurch in Pendle.
John Nutter 1777 who married Mary Pollard 1779.
Marriage: 20 Feb 1798 St Mary, Newchurch in Pendle, Lancashire, England
John Nutter - (X), of this Chapelry
Mary Pollard - (X), of this Chapelry
Witness: John Hartley; James Dixon
Married by Banns by: Thos Hugginson Minister
Source: LDS Film 1278872
I think I can trace this line back at least another generation at Newchurch in Pendle but as of yet I'm not 100%.
Being because of the surname and the fact that it is Newchurh in Pendle where it all kicked off...I know it's years later, but I was wondering if anyone knows if this line had any connecton with of course Alice Nutter? It would appear the Nutters owned land around that part of Pendle...so I was wondering if say Far Banks Farm might of belonged to the Alice Nutters family?
A bit of short cut, I guess is what I'm trying to do!..because as I've read Alice Nutters tree is very hard to follow.
My expience is that around here at least pre industrlal revolution most farming families with the same surname were indeed related, though at a distance.
Many thanks.
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moh
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 14:07
Alice was only a Nutter by marriage.
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Sunray10
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 14:45
I think they may be some of my ancestors in there somewhere ie Pollard and perhaps Hartley. They may have originated from Newchurch in Pendle.
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Julie in Norfolk
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 15:14
Ah, to be a Nutter by marriage eh! Just bonkers in this household heh heh!
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Julie in Norfolk
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 15:15
p.s. Also got Nutters in my family history. You have to look a fair way away from Barrowford not to have Nutters in your family.
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Sue
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 18:50
There are alot of Nutters around.
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belle
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 22:27
I don't know my Nutters that far back ,so would need to know your more recent Nutters to know if they are same family as mine..but as you are looking for earlier ones this may be of no interest to you.
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moh
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 13:41
I have my Nutters back quite a way, but they were mainly from Trawden, although Alice Nutter (1697-1763), daughter of Richard (1675) did live in Barrowford and she married into my Stansfield family. the difficulty of going further back is that there appear to be no records kept during the Civil War, so unless there are papers or wills - no chance (many people guess and that causes problems on IGI, Ancestry etc. as people take it as true without trying having proof.)
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 14:36
I think that this sums it up!!
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mick_pye
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 15:37
Thanks for the replies.
I was indeed aware of Alice Nutter being linked to the Nutter family only by marriage. As for the Pollards..this is the first time I've been linked with this surname..I might be able go back further but stuggling at the moment.
I thought there might be some kind of situation were records have been destroyed e.t.c...hence really being aware you can only go so far with this kind of thing and I presume it's very rare you can trace the above Nutter line back to the early 1600's.
I'm sort of hoping for a lead through land registry, wills e.t.c.
There are alot of Nutters around this part of the world!
With that in mind, does anyone know if the other Nutters that were supposedly persecuted by the other alleged witches...were related in anyway to the Nutter family Alice married into?
This Nutter line runs into the 'Holden' line the generation after the above, so alas at the moment at least, later 'Nutters' would only get in the way.
The Holden line was in Newchurch in Pendle for at least 3 generations.
...oh and I can't find Alice Nutters maiden name anywhere..must be a record somewhere?
Edited by - mick_pye on 10/10/2011 3:41:32 PM
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 15:50
I am sure it is on here somewhere, apparently she came from Trawden. She was the only Nutter hung for a witch, the others were not related. Two Nutters John & Robert belonging to the Nutter family at New Laund were executed for being catholic priests. John must have been born around 1554 - he went to Douay University in 1577 after getting his degree at St. John's College, Cambridge. Robert Nutter was educated at Burnley Grammar School and in 1564 went to Brasenose College, Oxford. He was executed at Lancaster Castle on July 26th 1600 (source History of Burnley Part 2)
Edited by - moh on 10/10/2011 4:02:45 PM
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 16:19
I looked on the various topics for Alice Nutter - Barrowford John mentions she comes from a gentry family from Holme, near Cliviger, Burnley, but I can find no mention of a maiden name. There were loads of Nutters lived in Pendle area, some related and some not, so it is difficult to tie anyone related to Alice Nutter's husband. The would not be related directly to Alice unless they were the children of hers.
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 17:31
According to my records for the two sons? of Alice Nutter of Roughlee Hall, Pendle.
Alice was, of course, hanged "allegedly" as a witch in Lancaster on 20th August 1612. She was not, however, a witch just a Catholic gentlewomen who had lived a charitable life giving refuge to one, or both, of her sons? (not brothers) at Roughlee Hall. She got mixed up in the religious problems that were going on at the time ie the persecution of Catholics.
Blessed John Nutter was born at Reedley Hallows, near Burnley, about 1550. He was executed as a Catholic priest at Tyburn, London, on 12th February 1584. He was the son or? of Alice Nutter of Roughlee Hall who was executed at Lancaster castle in 1612.
Blessed Robert Nutter was born in Burnley, probably about 1557. He was executed for his Catholic faith and for being a priest of that faith at Lancaster on 26th July 1600. He was beatified in 1987.
Edited by - Sunray10 on 12/10/2011 18:36:54
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 17:45
Just had a look in John Clayton's book, "The Lancashire Witch Conspiracy". He says that Alice was the daughter of Gyles Whitaker of Huncoats.
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mick_pye
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 18:37
Brilliant!...I'll post something longer in a bit...but straight away from your info found this.
ALICE WHITAKER (c.1542-x. August 20, 1612)
Alice Whitaker was the daughter of Giles Whitaker of Huncoat, Lancashire. In c.1560/61 she married Richard Nutter of Roughlee (d.1584). They had five children, Miles (1565-1633), John, James, Richard, and Elizabeth. As a widow, Alice lived at Crow Trees. In 1612, Alice was accused of helping kill a neighbor, Henry Minton, by witchcraft. She refused to speak in her own defense. It has been suggested that she kept silent to protect Catholic friends. Another possibility is that she was suffering from age-related dementia and had little idea what was going on.
http://www.kateemersonhistoricals.com/TudorWomenW-Wh.htm
Edited by - mick_pye on 10/10/2011 6:43:00 PM
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Posted - 10/10/2011 : 19:28
Yes, that's probably correct, Mick. She was, indeed, protecting her Catholic friends. If you think about it, then, she should be regarded as a "martyr for her faith".
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The Nutters at Far Banks Farm, Newchurch
