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Rob07
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Thank you for allowing me here it looks a great site just joined tonight.
After 3 years of doing my family tree and nearly 2000 people on it I am hoping for some local information. The earliest confirmed Proctor I have is William b abt 1806 not sure exactly where born but local and resident in Lothersdale as a Blacksmith who married Sarah Pickles on the 4 Jan 1821.
After 4 children William, Edwin, Francis and the last being Moorhouse Proctor in 1833 shortly after the birth of Moorhouse Sarah sadly passed away.
I have found records for Moorhouse (with difficulty) with another family and the other children William, Edwin and Francis also with another family. William b 1824 moved to Bury lancs married Sarah Greenhalgh and had children.
I am having trouble locating William snr after this, I have scanned ancestry records and I have come up with a possible 3 within the period 1803 - 1806.
A William Proctor was convicted of Sheep Stealing on the 28 March 1835 and sentenced at York to transportation to Van Deiman's Land (Tasmania), a record on the 14 May shows him on the ship Leviathan in Portsmouth and also shows he died on the 25 May on that ship.
I wondered if any local historians had any information on this incident?
The other 2 possible William Proctor's went abroad I think 1 to the US and 1 to Australia I am in the process of messaging them to try to find out more information.
If anybody has any information on this I would be very grateful.
Thankyou
Robert Proctor
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wendyf
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Posted - 25/08/2011 : 10:49
I would be interested to hear if you manage to find out for definate who William's parents were.
If you ever get to Colne have a look at the "Procter Family" book in the library. It has been bound and sits out on the shelves in the family history section. There is a huge tree starting with Thomas.
One final thought...In the History of Lothersdale there is mention of pedigrees being drawn up of local families including the Procters. I just had a look on the A2A website and these are now in the Yorkshire Archaeological Society archive in Leeds. There is also a bundle of Lothersdale family pedigrees in Keighley library.
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Rob07
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Posted - 26/08/2011 : 05:00
Hi Again Wendy, I'll probably need a library card which I don't have.
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Rob07
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Posted - 27/08/2011 : 07:09
Hi Wendy, the best I have so far is a marriage to Ellen Crawford 1839 and death record for William Procter in 1849. This death record show Ellen Crawford and father of William as Samuel Procter.
I have managed to get on and look at the newspaper cuttings and found the one you mentioned and also other information about any William I can find.
Thanks again.
Edited by - Rob07 on 27/08/2011 07:19:13
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Rob07
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 07:08
I'm not sure if my William married Ellen Crawford, a death LBMD record says 1849 but I find him in Carlton in 1851 as an uncle of William 1821 wife Elizabeth 1824 and dau Jane 1846 amd known son Francis 1823.
I'll have to go to the library I think. I have emailed Colne Library.
Rob
Edited by - Rob07 on 30/08/2011 07:26:41 |
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 08:11
I couldn't find William in the Tree in Colne Library Rob, it is all the descendants of Samuel from his second marriage. I shall be in the library as usual on Wednesday morning, so if there is anything I can look up for you, just let me know.
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Rob07
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 10:06
if you could confirm where Samuel was born and where he got married that would help, my William was born in Horton, I think your Samuel was married in Colne right?
So did he live live in Yorkshire and get married in Colne, doubtful I suppose but he did move to Yorkshire later didn't he?
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 11:07
Rob I think you are going round in circles, even my head has started to spin! 
Samuel Procter b 1780 in Glusburn, married his first wife Ann at Kildwick Parish Church in 1800. She died 1808 and was buried at Kildwick.
He married again in 1822 this time to Mary Smith at St Bartholomew's Colne. They lived at Saltersyke, Colne and then Lower Burnt Hill (which was then In Yorkshire but is now in Lancashire.)
Samuel was buried at Kildwick 30/09/1838 with his first wife. (Just about the time William did a runner!)
Kildwick was the Parish church for Glusburn & Cowling which are both in Yorkshire. The folk of Lothersdale were in Carleton Parish.
Not at all unusual for people to move from Yorks to Lancs in this border area.
(I think the Horton William is leading you off on a false trail....)
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Rob07
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Posted - 30/08/2011 : 20:52
Hi Wendy, Yes I got the details on Samuel and Marriages, the earliest record I can find is the 1851 Census with William and son Francis and William as head showing my Wiliam as uncle.
It says where born Horton parish, Yorkshire, England Civil parish Carlton.
I have children William, Edwin, and Francis taken in by a family named Senior in Leeds an 1841 and also Moorhouse with another family named Brown also in 1841.
But I don't have William as the child from the first marriage of Samuel and Ann as you said there are no records of it, I'll check with Skipton Library and see what there is there.
Thanks for your help.
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Rob07
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Posted - 31/08/2011 : 10:09
I keep seeing Netherthong, All Saints is that a village?
Thx
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wendyf
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Posted - 31/08/2011 : 10:40
Netherthong is near Huddersfield.
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Rob07
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Posted - 31/08/2011 : 11:12
Ah right that's where William Married Sarah, I have checked LBMD & YBMD and can find no matching death record for William. My cousin thinks it's 1849 but I have him in 1851 (I think) with son Francis nephew William wife elizabeth and child Jane. This must be a different William to John because he married Jane Hewitt. So there must be another brother of Samuel.
Thx
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wendyf
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Posted - 31/08/2011 : 11:40
Ah! Just looked on Ancestry and they have made a mistake....The Carleton in Craven parish records are mistakenly listed under Netherthong. If you go in to look at the page showing William & Sarah's marriage it is Carlton parish church.
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Callunna
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Posted - 31/08/2011 : 12:39
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Netherthong.
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Rob07
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Posted - 31/08/2011 : 18:49
Yes I see it, it makes sense now I know what or where Netherthong is.
Thanks Wendy
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Stanley
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 06:31
So do I! Can you imagine what my mind does with that name? I apologise for having an overactive imagination.
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Wlliam Procter b abt 1806 Lothersdale
