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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
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Stanley Challenger Graham




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panbiker
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2300 Posts
Posted - 25/11/2010 : 11:44
I started to watch and ended up recording the end of the film (docu drama) on BBC1 last night "13 Days" which is a blow by blow, inside the Whitehouse view of the Cuban missile crisis which had the world on the edge of global anihallation in October 1962. I think the screening was most apt given the present situation in Korea, as you say Stanley escallation and no refuting the WMD issues.


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handlamp
Senior Member


1100 Posts
Posted - 25/11/2010 : 16:21
Stanley & Tiz. With a bit of luck the Euro project is about to implode and I'm preying it will take the whole caboodle of the EU with it. On the subject of bail outs, I can see sense in helping Ireland but the Med countries, who we have no affinity with, certainly not. The gravy train is grinding to a halt, thank goodness, but what an expensive caper it's been for us.


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catgate
Senior Member


1764 Posts
Posted - 25/11/2010 : 20:13
I think you could be right, handlamp, but i do not see a very smooth landing, for anyone, at the other side of it.

It is a wonderful example of  obstinacy and and blind ambition, on on the part of ignorant egocentric would be world leaders out to become feather their own nests in ant way possible.

Like most of these things, self created  Authority without Responsibilityis was its causation and its failure.

Those who created it are long gone, but those who have continued the immoral, unworkable charade should be held to account as "Peace Criminals" at the Hague (William, if no better can be found).

It is all built on borrowed, non existant,  "funny money ".

 


Every silver lining has a cloud.


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pluggy
Geek


1164 Posts
Posted - 25/11/2010 : 20:41
The Nelson Leader, Colne times and the good ol' Barlick and Earby are all effectively the same paper with small regional variations.  Cost cutting measures are inevitively going to bring more of the common and less of the unique in each paper.   I can't advertise in the BET without it also appearing in the Colne Times and the Nelson Leader.


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 26/11/2010 : 07:03
Tiz and Ian, both dead right. We are being subjected to one of the biggest 'confidence-building' spin exercises ever attempted. Problem is there are two sides to the coin, the funny money world of casino banking where profit can be extracted from even the worst financial crisis and the real world where the poor sods at the bottom are paying the price. Lord Young's crass statement the other day exposes the mind-set of the 'Haves' at the top of the pile. Does anyone really believe that he is the only one with these views. Completely divorced from life at the sharp edge.

Pluggy, you're right and like all local newspapers BET is fighting to survive. It's easy to carp at how they do it but I admire them. They produce the papers with less staff than the Pendle Council 'Communications Department'.

Ted and Catty. I understand your attitudes to the EU and in terms of what it has developed into you are right, it's a disaster. However, I have always thought in very simplistic terms about European Union as a concept. I'd rather see them cooperating than fighting. Been there, didn't like it! So I agree, the concept is great but the execution is bloody horrible!

So, the middle classes are being discouraged from breeding while the benefit dependent underclass are encouraged and this will lead to dilution of the race. Shades of Francis Galton and Eugenics. Kershaw in his two volume history of the rise and fall of Hiltler had no doubt that the 19th century Galton theories were one of the precursors to the racial hatred of the 1930s and eventually the warped views that led to the holocaust of all but the Master Race, the 'Pure Aryan Stock'. Yet another example of the mind-set at the top of our pyramid, dangerous, ignorant and deep-rooted. Question is how widespread are these ideas and what can they lead to?


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frankwilk
Senior Member


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Posted - 26/11/2010 : 08:00
Lord Young's crass statement the other day exposes the mind-set of the 'Haves' at the top of the pile. Does anyone really believe that he is the only one with these views. Completely divorced from life at the sharp edge.

Stanley our son has the Cheapest more affordable Mortgage  he has ever had. He has just bought a new Car, and he now has a second child. So he has never had it so good. You rabbit on about the poor but the majority are not poor they are the better off. It all depends on what your perceptions are. Do you actually know anyone who is Poor ?? This word Poor is being over used. I now lots of people of would like more but they are not poor.
Heating Allowance is in the bank.

ps please read my post again regarding the media I said "influenced" by the media not to stop reading it or listening to it.!!!



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frankwilk
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Posted - 26/11/2010 : 08:08
We should all be discouraged from breeding, our country will not be able to support the growth in the population, for much longer.
I posted on the old age thread about Statins etc prolonging life but at what cost to quality of life later on !! ie Sound Heart at  age 90 but Brain and Body shot to bits. Is this why our Nursing Homes are now being filled to overflowing ??



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tripps
Senior Member


1404 Posts
Posted - 26/11/2010 : 09:10
Sorry - couldn't resist this especially given the post above   Smile
From another site I frequent
"I  can now confirm recent rumours that top US sprinter the legendary FLYING STANLEY will be joining my stud team at Kaykays Racing in the very near future. He flys into Dublin next Thursday Dec 2nd, will have a weeks rest to settle in and will commence stud duties (natural matings) thereafter.   Owing to the current financial situation it has been decided to offer Stanley at an introductory fee of €650."


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Bruff
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479 Posts
Posted - 26/11/2010 : 09:21
I'm interested in the increasing use of the word 'breed' to describe what we used to know as the having of children or the starting of a family.  I always thought that we have children etc and that animals breed, and I don't recall anyone of my aquaintance over the years mentioning they were actively trying to breed.  Maybe I'm being over-sensitive, but it does interest me this talk of breeding. 
I suspect that there are a very small number up and down the land who see 'breeding' as a route to benefit riches - which they live to regret no doubt, in time - and I mention 'benefits' there advisedly as this would appear the focus of Mr Flight's contention, not those who still get benefit but who earn a (sometimes quite large) salary.  I imagine too that in the main these folk are young, misguided and rather ignorant of sexual matters.  This latter you would expect in a country where sensible sex education is essentially non-existent and attempts to change it result in hysteria.  Compulsory, universal and comprehensive sex education starting young, backed by easy access to contraceptive advice and sexual health facilities with said education framed within the context of loving and/or respectful relationships would I reckon go a long, long way to tackling 'breeding', teenage pregnancies, unwanted pregnancies etc.  After all it does in other countries in Europe, but maybe we're different who knows.
Course, this is just the sort of thing that those types who bemoan 'breeding' would blanche at and then most likely, collapse in outrage. 

 
Richard Broughton 



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frankwilk
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Posted - 26/11/2010 : 09:23
HeHehe like that one tripps.

What web sites are you trawling to find such information LOL



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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 26/11/2010 : 11:17
Read Francis Galton Frank. To use 'breeding' as a term for human procreation is insulting to my mind and raises the spectre of the old discredited Eugenics arguments. Here's a website for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Nice little story in the BET this morning. The young Mr Stephenson was introduced to Prince Philip at a dinner at the Canada Club in St James' Palace. Here's the exchange. AS "Hello Sir, I'm the MP for Pendle." HRH "Really, did you do anything before?" AS "I was in insurance". HRH, "And you think this is better?. HRH is reported to have 'harrumphed as he went on his way. (Mail on Sunday. Black Dog column.)

Asked to comment Mr Stephenson confirmed that HRH had asked him about being in insurance and which job was better. "He was being funny rather than rude. He made me smile and made everyone else smile. It was a typical piece of his wit".  Well, he would say that wouldn't he. Like HRH or not, he does sometimes go right to the point!


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moh
Silver Surfer


6860 Posts
Posted - 26/11/2010 : 13:29
If £650 is your introductory fee Stanley - what do you charge after that???


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handlamp
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1100 Posts
Posted - 26/11/2010 : 14:48
Depends on performance, moh !!


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Bradders
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1880 Posts
Posted - 26/11/2010 : 15:20
Whose ?


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frankwilk
Senior Member


3975 Posts
Posted - 26/11/2010 : 16:49
Breeding
Procreate

Different words
Outcome =s  More People !!!!

That was/is the issue Population Growth should we be encouraging it through benefits, when People Can't Afford to have the Children without the need of Benefits, and the Worlds Resources can't Support it.
Wrap it up any way you want But what Flight was advocating is coming.
Are you arguing against the thrust of his views or is it the word ( breeding) that offends you ? which one is it ????



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