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sirromy
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Posted -  19/01/2005  :  13:37
My meager complied info on James and Sarah Hartley of Admergill:will of James Hartley...

this is the last will and testment of me, James Hartley of Admergill in the county of York, worsted manufacturer. First my will and mind is that all my just debts, funeral expenses, and the probate of this my will be raised and paid out of my personal estate. Secondly, I give and bequieath to Sarah, my loving wife, my best bed, bedstead, and bedding, a chest, chair, one set of china and 6 silver spoons, and also I give and beqeath to my said wife the sum of nine pounds a year to be paid by my executors hereafter named, yearly and every year from and after my decease for and during the term of her natural life, for so long as she shall remain my widow, but if she happens to marry again the aforesaid sum of nine pounds to be reduced to the sum of two pounds and 10 shillings which I direct to be paid to her in the same manner as the aforesaide sum of nine pounds is limited to be paid and from and immediately after her decease or marriage the sum of one hundered and eighty pounds I give and bequeath the same to be equally divided amongst my four children, John, Mary, Ann and Ellen to share and share alike but in case of the mariage of my said wife a suffiecient part of the siad sum of one hundred and eighty pounds to remain as a security for the siad sum of two pounds and ten shillings as aforesaid directed to be paid to her but the said sum of one hundred and eighty pounds or any part thereof not to be paid to my said children till twelve calender months after. The decease of my said wife or marriage I also give and bequeath to James the son, the natural son of my daughter, Mary, the interest of the sum of fifteen pounds till he attains the age of twenty one years and if he lives to attain that age I give and bequeath to him the said sum of fifteen pounds and all interest due therin but in case of his death before he attains that age I gived and bequeath the same to my daugher Mary now wife of Willaim Croh, the sum of sixty five pounds to be paid by my exectors at twelve months this next after my decease and if my said daughter Mary happens to die before the end fo twelve calender months after my decease I give and bequeath the same to her legal representatives if more than one share and share alike. I also give and bequeath to my daughter, Ellen, now the wife of William Broughton the sum of eighty pounds to be paid by my executors at twelve calendar months after my decease and if my said duaghter Ellen happens to die before the end of twelve months after my decease I give and bequeath the sum to her legal representatives, if more than one then share and share alike. I also give and bequeath to my duaghter Ann Hartley, the sum of one hundred and five pounds, and ?? pounds father left her which I have retained in my funds, both which sums I do direct my executors to pay to her at twelve months after my decease and as to all the rest residue and remainder of my persoanl estate whatsoever or wheresoever or of what remains to my son John Hartley and my nephew Jmaes Hartley of Fulshaw whithin Barrowford Booth in county of Lancaster.Set my hand and seal this...?? day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand and eight hundred. ....His signature James Hartley
effects above 600 pounds and under 1000 pounds.


Christening at Wheatley Lane Inghamite Church, Barrowford, England
Mary Hartley, dau of James and Sarah Hartley christened 11 May 1766
Ann Hartley, dau of James and Sarah Hartley christened 31 Jan. 1768
Ellen Hartley, dau of James and Sarah Hartley christened 25 June 1769
John Hartley, son of James and Sarah Hartley christened 17 March 1771
James Hartley, son of James and Sarah Hartley christened 29 may 1774

James Hartley is buried at Wheatley Lane Inghamite Cemetery..but I didn't find a headstone for him...Church records show him being from Admirgill and buried Wheatley Lane

Admergill is listed as a farm house in twp of Brogden, county York. This is just a bit outside of Barrowford..above Blacko

From..A History of the County of Lancashire, Vol. 6. The Commissioners for deforesting in 1507 found that Over Barrowford had been let to farm at 4 pounds, Nether Barrowford with a parcel adjoing called Riston Thorns at 4 pounds and they granted them to the old tenants for Copyhold rents amounty to 12 pounds in all. The rental in 1527 shows that there were 19 seperate tenaments farmed, occupied by John Hayke, Lawrence Gargreaves, Bernard Hartly and others. The principal tenants in 1609 were Lawrence Townley of Carr, John Hartley of Admergill, John Hargreaves and Lawrence Hartley of Carr Mills..





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Stuart
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Posted - 30/05/2007 : 00:19


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ok...dont have the copies yet but I do have the information that is included on each of the 20 pages...thought I'd post that to get you all in gear for what is to come!  I'd say it's going to tie a ton of Hartleys together, add the names of wives, and heaven only knows what else!  The person who is gathering the file had to submit a request to the library for copies of all the pages and as soon as he gets them he'll scan and send to me..and you can be assured I'll transcribe them page by page and line by line for all of you to see and digest.

 

1) This was a small-ish card that had the following on it

William Hartley of Roughlee & Admergill

1667 – 1730

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Henry Robinson of Padiham

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John Hartley of

Roughlee and Lower Craggs

m. 1690-1739

Ellen Robinson

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Henry Hartley

m. 1731-1800

Suzannah Lavender

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Henry Robinson Hartley



2) This was a family tree, very detailed, tiny writing. Titled Hartley’s of Admergill

At the top was Alexander who died in 1563



3) This was another page of tree in 2)



4) This was a card with a list of wills, there were no wills in the file so it may be that it’s no use, or that the wills are elsewhere. The dates I presume are for when the wills were signed or something, there was no definite indication of what they were.

“ Copies & Transcriptions of Wills



John Hartley of Admergill 1/1/1662

Margaret Hartley of Admergill 26/9/1627

Ann Hartley of Roughlee 19/5/1730

John Hartley of Whitelee 16/11/1738

George Hartley of Overhouses 14/11/1768

Nathaniel Hartley 20/1/1773

James Hartley of Lower Admiregale 9/6/1800”



5) This was more family tree, entitled Hartley of Admergill p4 of(what I think said) Pence Gate

It started with George born in 1695 2nd son of Hartley of Roughlee, formerly of Admergill and went through about 3-4 generations down to May 9/Aug/1907, Susan Moon 1889 and Christopher 22/8/1886



6) This was another page that looked similar to 2) Someone had been through in pencil underlining names, it looked like the male line:

7) Alexander 31/7/1670 -> John 20/5/1705 -> George 28/5/1727

-> James -> May 1.8.90 -> James



8) This had more tree;

James Hartley 1/8/1790

Mary

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John 23/10/1889

Mary Parker

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(there’s a weird number here which confused me: 28.9.59)

1860

Robert

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Something Brown

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Minnie Brown



9) More tree

10) More tree

11) More tree



12) This was yet more family tree, titled Admergill of Fulshaw, the latest date I could see was of Joseph Hartley 3/11/1876



13) More tree



14) This was a list of baptisms and burials dated 1738-1757 and 1712-1760 respectively.



15) Cont.



16) List of burials 1685-1695 and Baptisms 1698-1734, and then Burials 1655-1679 Baptisms 1679-1697



17) Burials cont. 1599-1654



18) This was more baptisms from the Lome or Corne P.C. Register (presumably parish council?) 1599-1654



19) More Baptisms and Burials for 1654-1679



20-24) This was a conveyance for £63 between Edward Walker of Morpforth to John Hartley of Clough 22/1/1690



I have long suspected that these could  well be the research carried out many years ago by Rosie Stephen who worked with Mrs Crowther on the Hartley pedegree. I didn't realise that they could be copied and delivered by post - I had understood that one had to visit the archives where the records are lodged to view them - so well done. Yet, I could be mistaken and these records are something else.

 I lost touch with Rosie many years ago shortly, after she went to live in Basingstoke, before she had completed her research. She sent me various copies of her manuscripts which I still have, but some are unclear due to photocopying and small, light handwriting.  I have copies of wills and the aforementioned burial records.

 Alexander who died 1563 is a direct ancestor of mine and is the first name on my sheet No1.  from which there a numerous descending pedgrees.

In reference to No 7 above, I have:

p5 = Alexander Hartley (b 31/7/1670) 2nd son of John and Ellen of Admergill and Clongh m Mary Hartley of Colne 17/4/1688.....Ellen1689 + Elizabeth1692 + Ellen1696 + Wm1698 + John1705  + James1709 + Ann14/5/1710

John (above) b1705 m ? = (1st son James b 1724 at Water Meetings d 11/9/1800 worsted  manufacturer (married Sarah who died 9/9/1813) (2nd son George 28/5/1727 at Stonedge - also of Burntmoor m Anne Cayley 30/7/1771) (3rd son John  15/3/1730 at Barrowford and of Fulshaw.

James (above b 11/10/1724) m Sarah (1st daughter Mary b 2/4/1766 m Wm Cook), they had a son James who was  illigit, he married  Mary of Barrowford).  (2nd daughter Ann 8/12/67 m Jonathan Cook in  1851 they had daughter Betty 1801 + son James of Wheathhead in 1850) (3rd daughter Ellen 18/5/69 m Wm Broughton of Admergill in 1793. They had daughters Mary 1793 + Sarah 1797 + Nancy 1799) (1st son John of Admergill 8/1/1771 m Margaret Dugdale at CPC 1809) (2nd son James 24/4/1774 who died)

The red highlight indicate my direct known ancestors: John of Admergill 8/1/1771 my fourth great grandfather as follows: John of Admergill 8/1/1771 - James of Cock Pitt Hill Farm Blacko 4/10/1818 - Moses 3/5/1835 who went to live in Church Nr Accrington and had approx six children by three wives -  my line: John 18/9/1858 - Arthur 24/10/1884 (borther John, emigrated to America, details known)



Edited by - Stuart on 30 May 2007 01:07:44

Edited by - Stuart on 30 May 2007 01:09:58

Edited by - Stuart on 10 June 2007 01:35:57


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Stuart
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 23:50

If Jim Fay is reading this: I have found no connection to Ellen Hartley 1788. I have tried to email you on both addresses but they have all been returned. This is what I wrote:

From the sparse records in my possession I can find no reference to EH b 1788c.

Ellen is a name that seems to have been passed down in the generation in one particular family from the Admergill area, which is only about a mile up the road from Barrowford. I have an Ellen b 18.5.69 who married Wm Broughton of Admergill. She is the daughter of Sarah and James Hartley of Water Meetings. James was the son of John who had two sisters named Ellen - the first Ellen died in 1692 - her sister Ellen was born in 1696. John was the son of Alexander of Barrowfored and Mary Hartley. Alexander was the son of John and Ellen Hartley of Admergill and Clongh, Barrowford.

So, no Ellen b 1788, but you may find further information that links her to the above.

In 1793. Wm Broughton appears to have had a second wife named Elizabeth Giokray. I have a 'line' that gives three children and it seems that Ellen is the mother as the firstborn is Mary 1793 - then Sarah 1797 and Nancy 1799.

Now, if Wm m Ellen in 1793, they couldn't have had a daughter named Ellen in 1788. What a pity I suppose Ellen 1788c could have been a grandaugher of the above mentioned James and Sarah as they had numerous children other than Ellen - at least four of them being boys. We must be careful of trying to fit a squar peg in a round hole.

Best wishes,

Stuart Hartley




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Stanley
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 07:46
Betsy, good stuff and thanks for taking the trouble.  You are all working well, Hartleys all over the world will be watching awestruck!


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Sunray10
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Posted - 09/12/2010 : 22:41
My ancestors were Hartleys. They were the Colne and Nelson Hartleys of the mid 1800s. Some of them being tenant farmers from the Southfield area of Nelson. They were at farms such as Pinfold, Slate Delves, Float Bridge and, I think, Stoney Rakes, near Catlow. I am apparently related to Wallace Hartley, the Titanic's bandleader, and possibly to Sir William Pickles Hartley, the jam manufacturer.

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At this point I have no clue where or who these Hartleys came from or belong to. Your information is a bit mid boggling at the moment.
Presently know Fulshaw and Admergill. Much work to do!

Someone mentioned on this site there were old wills for the Hartleys...I have posted 1 of them but wonder about others. When I was in England I never suspected these Hartleys would be found in York information so never researched any of that area as I only knew of Fulshaw farm in Barrowford from my grandfather, John Smith, who drilled that place name into my brain. Bad ME!




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