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dawnasleep
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Posted -  14/10/2005  :  14:30
I have just discovered that i have a connection with the Folds of Daneshouse. Can anyone help me with anything to do with the Folds? My maiden name was Folds,  I live in Hertfordshire and I am also disables, so I cannot get to the Burnley area to do any research :(
Anything would be great!!
Thanks



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dawnasleep
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Posted - 13/02/2006 : 12:07
 Hi Glenys, It sees alot of the older spellings in may things had an extra F in them :) as Stanley says, alot of the  enumerators often gave their own version. Not all them could spell too well.
I would love the children please, that would be great.



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Glenys
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Posted - 13/02/2006 : 20:31

Thanks for the advise Stanley .. helps enormously ...it's always puzzled me that FF !

Dawn   the children  for Robert Shackleton and Margarie FFoulds are :

William Shackleton b.1590  d.1690

Alice Shackleton b.1590

Richard Shackleton b.1587

Elizabeth Shackleton b.1582




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Shane
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Posted - 13/02/2006 : 21:10

If the FF was stylised or in italics it might mean that it was either an F or possibly an S?

Abbreviations were common and prior to 1700 capital letters used indiscriminately and not all capital letters were available. "fflorenceo" meant "Florence" and this was occasionally a mans name as well as a women's. The double "ff" was also used for "ss" and occassionally a single "f" for "s"

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Shane
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Posted - 13/02/2006 : 21:25

I found this on a Calderdale genealogy site:

In printed and handwritten documents up to the 18th century, ff was used instead of a capital F:

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Stanley
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Posted - 14/02/2006 : 06:20
I've learned something there, I've always wondered about 'ff'.


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dawnasleep
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Posted - 14/02/2006 : 14:20
 Thanks for the info and thankyou Glenys for the children of Robert and Margery



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dawnasleep
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Posted - 15/02/2006 : 12:59
 Ok, well i have got my parish registers cd now and i am even more bacfled than ever
With all the christenings it only gives the fathers name, which i kinda expected, but when there are more than onefolds around with the same christian name, how do i find out which of them a child came from? Also found a few words that need explaining a bit. They are UXOR, SEPULT and BASE CHILD OR SON OR DAUGHTER. Also i notice they didnt give the ages of death etc, so once again it is purely guess work on who they were
Now when a death is ini the parish records it says for example william folds son of richard, now how do i know if he is a young child or a man of 40
Sorry to be so dense, but hey you cant have everything



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Sue
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Posted - 15/02/2006 : 17:47

I wish I had read this link before today. I have just spent the last two days in Burnley library trawling those very same registers, and the succeeding dates up to 1777. for Proctors.  I should be going again next week. If there is anything particular you want looking up email me directly and I'll see what I can do

 Sue

PS some of them also lived at Daneshouse or Dancers House before that




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dawnasleep
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Posted - 15/02/2006 : 17:53
 Hi Sue, Wow, thats typical isnt it??. I would be greatful for any folds info at all from 1563 christenings, marriages or burials please. I really would be most greatful.



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dawnasleep
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Posted - 15/02/2006 : 18:22
Glenys, do you know if Robert Shackleton was married before he married Margery? in the christening cd that i got, there are other children for a robert shackleton  


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Sue
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Posted - 16/02/2006 : 08:50

Dawn email me privately to let me know what you want. It will also serve as a reminder to do it.

Stanley ff was used even later than the 18th century, it is on the Rev Maylards marriage certifcate of the 1840s, he was described as a diffenter ie dissenter. When I got the copy certificate it came with a little message from the registrar to say they had copied it faithfully but didn't understand what the word was.




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Stanley
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Posted - 16/02/2006 : 09:36
I'm sure you are right Sue.  These archaisms hang on for a long time.  I'm always amused by the arguments about 'Ye' which as I understand it was simply an easier way of writing 'the' but found its way into spoken language as an archaism for 'the'. 


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allofuswilsons
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Posted - 26/02/2006 : 01:26

Hi Dawn

 

uxor means wife, sepult means died and base child (i think) meant bastard child.

can anyone tell me y i can never seem to be able to use the smileys when i click on the icon it just makes a click sound but nothing happens!

Nic




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Stanley
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Posted - 26/02/2006 : 05:15
It's because the Internet Gods don't like Smilies.............  Especially the ones that move.


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allofuswilsons
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Posted - 26/02/2006 : 22:32
Hmm  no fair!  other people seem to always be able to use them on this site


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