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Stanley
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Posted -  11/01/2009  :  06:04
New Year, new topic. If you want to see the old one do a forum search for same title but 2008.


Stanley Challenger Graham




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Bradders
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Posted - 01/04/2009 : 19:15
Herb......Sorry I haven't responded to your post......Stuff Happened !

I disagreed profoundly with your earlier submission, but that doesn't mean we've "fallen out " .

I was upset because you seemed to have taken Stanley's post and attached meanings that weren't there !

Given the way you describe your circumstances , it's hard to imagine that you could ,in any way, be racist. (you're not , are you?)

THAT is something I am not prepared to go along with.

SO.....If I make a CD again ...I promise to send you one ! 


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frankwilk
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Posted - 01/04/2009 : 19:28
Looks like a catastrophic failure the RAF rescue co-ordinator said the worst scenario for them is a single Mayday followed by Silence.Three times I have had close calls on choppers. Single Engine Failure, Gearbox Warning Lite. and Severe Vibration on the vibration I was sat one back from the pilot I saw the he whole instrument warning panel illuminate. Before the pilot suggested we zip up our survival suits I had mine done with the hood up !!!!   Still went back a fortnight later though.



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frankwilk
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Posted - 01/04/2009 : 19:31
With regard to the protesters, I think I could have fallen out with Stanley over a difference of opinion,but I respect his views so just left it at that.  I  know I couldn't change his Republican mind set if I tried !!! LOL



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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 06:38
Frank, from what they are saying I think they suspect a catastrophic mid-air occurence as there is no evidence the Puma reached the surface in one piece. Looks as though they lost all sixteen. Like fishing and mining there is a price to pay for oil.....


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handlamp
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 14:28
I think he'll be alright, Stanley. His next job is something like improving relations with other creeds.


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Tizer
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 19:59
Passing the TV last night I saw several people were being interviewed about the G20 and economic troubles. One of them (De Soto?) stressed an important point. He said how much `money' there was in the world. It could have been $13 trillion (what's a trillion between friends?). But - and here's the crunch - the greater part of it is not what we would normally think of as `money', but is now in the form of derivatives etc. We keep hearing of `toxic assets', bad loans and the like, but it's time people learnt that their money isn't really there anymore. Now, I know this has been the case to some extent ever since banknotes were invented - but never on this scale and never with the unreal outweighing the real money by this much. And we need to add all this on top of the toxic assests etc.

I just hope people don't suddenly decide to ask for their money back. Not only will they queue outside banks nowadays but they'll drain their internet accounts too until the banks' web sites crash. And even if you do manage to get money out it won't be much use - the whole economic system will be in meltdown. There won't be any food or petrol to buy in the supermarkets. I suspect the politicians are avoiding talking about this in public, for obvious reasons!


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Bradders
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 23:14
What struck me today was listening to an American President , who did NOT sound like an under-prepared idiot  front man , who tripped up over the script........

Those who met him, said that Bush was bright etc.......but the difference with  B. O.  is Startling , encouraging ...and impressive .

 

And his Missis is a hit with the Queen....

Ah Bless.!

(No honestly, I think that's brilliant) 

 


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 03/04/2009 : 06:35
I get the feeling that Peter is as leery as I am about what's going on. I too am ompressed by Obama and his wife, they both look natural, not the product of some spindoctors deportment course. Remember how Bush and Blair used to walk together, both using that strange arms-away-from-the-body power walk thingy? Designed to make them look bigger and more impressive. OB and his wife don't need that, did you see the pic of them with the queen and Phillip? They towered over them! How tall is he? As for the G20, Godron hamming it up for all he is worth but no bottom in it, we know his faults. Obama not bothering about precedence in placings, not next to Brown at the dinner or in any of the group piccies, wise move...  As for the communique, like all of these it means little, what counts is what they do when they get back home. I like Sarcosy and Merkel staging the pre-conference revolt over non-targeted bail-outs and lack of regulation. The real key to what has been agreed is not the fabled trillion dollars but what they do about tax havens, hedge funds and the toxic financial instruments, not just defusing the present situation but preventing it happening again. I see that Barclays Bank have been talking a good game while short-selling bank stocks.

There is an outside chance that the big story behind the G20 is actually that the world economy has had a shock that will eventually force a re-think about how we manage things. This is what is needed and a good start could be in the under-reported talks between the Russians and the Americans on nuclear arms reduction. Godron should join in and scrap the chocolate Trident programme.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 03/04/2009 : 07:43
Mandy on Newsnight
He used the We have done it quite a few times. Like look what We have done, look what We have achieved etc. He sounds like Godrons right hand man, rather than the little Darling.
I dislike being told what I should do by the Non Elected.
Back to Domestic politics now for Godron,
I fear he does not understand that this has to be paid for by future generations.  Oh and by the way it was all the Bankers fault we are in this mess, nothing to do with being unregulated by Goverment/G20 Countries. Don't  worry folks Boom and Bust is over fill your boots with as much credit as you want. Was that Godron speaking mmmmm



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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 03/04/2009 : 10:02
Did you hear the CEO of RBS talking about the imminent shareholder's meeting? His line was that it was time to stop 'flogging the bank', recognise that what had happened was in the past and that the management had changed. I found myself wondering how this line of argument would have gone down at the Nuremberg trials. Don't these people realise that the damage done to their institutions can't be repaired by a few bits of sticky tape? We have seen no indication of any concrete policies designed to make the banks less risky and more boring. All right, the shareholders and whizz kids won't be filling their boots but they might manage to avoid going bankrupt! One wonders which planet these people are on. In their minds the news that Our Fred is 'considering a voluntary reduction in his pension' will defuse all the criticism. Not even close to it.....


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HerbSG
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Posted - 03/04/2009 : 20:01
You all think that you have a dud as PM...The Canadian PM had to be briefed about where to stand in the "family photo" and subsequently missed the photo.  Now he has to live with the opposition pointing out to the voters that "he missed forecasting the recession, so no surprise that he missed the photo".  Canada was complemented by all as being the least affected by the banks actions.  Godron is reported to have asked Canada's Harper how Canada managed it, only to be told that it was due to strict regulation of banks (nothing to do with our present minority government).


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 04/04/2009 : 07:02
Not surprising Herb. It was financial markets assuming they knew everything that created pure 'market-led' economics and wholesale deregulation which started as a reaction to the command economies which got us through WW2.

Bad news this maorning is that the 2009 Royal Agricultural Show at Stoneleigh near Warwick will be the last one. After 160 years they are closing down. Lots of brave talk about branching out into different sorts of events but the truth is that the decline of mixed farming has chiselled the foundation from under the RAS. In 2007 they had to cancel the last day of the show due to flooding and last year they were hit by F&M and Blue Tongue restrictions. They haven't made a profit for twenty years and the big exhibitors have deserted them. Sad but no doubt a sign of the times.


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pluggy
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Posted - 04/04/2009 : 07:10
I guess 4 year olds getting to sit on big tractors has lost its appeal......

Early memories from Agricultural shows Laughing


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frankwilk
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Posted - 04/04/2009 : 08:35
Never mind the bankers is this not obscene, Gerrard's salary

Captain commits until 2013 in deal worth £120,000 per week as Merseyside club prepares for crucial game against Fulham



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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 04/04/2009 : 09:31
Yes, the current financial situation seems to have had little impact on the "beautiful game", I am not a fan, in fact I hate it, but one thing is fairly clear, if you dont get results, what you do get is Sacked!. Could this be applied to politicians?.


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