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DAVEY
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Hi..........I found this forum on google while trying to research the origins of my Doug Moore built canal boat named Forget Me Not. The boat is 34' long and 9' wide ,built in a dutch barge style of all steel construction. The hull is signed Doug Moore 12 on one side and Doug Moore 042 on the other. She was built in 1991.............perhaps THOMO would remember her.....
Would appreciate any info...........was she built as a river boat as i have been told?
Davey
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Stanley
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 07:28
You're in the right place Davey...... Peter will know.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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thomo
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 13:21
And you are both very much correct, the only boat we ever built that had wheel steering instead of tiller. It was built for "Old Joe" who had worked the cut all of his life and was to be all his dreams in one go. She was built for the inland waterways in general and in her design she is fairly unique. I am pleased that she has a new owner and when I have had a good think, I will add more. Thomo.
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DAVEY
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 15:28
I wait with interest.............Crossing the Ribble Link tomorrow [weather permitting] anyone got any usefull advice ?.........I am going up.........
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Callunna
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 15:42
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Crossing the Ribble Link tomorrow
Hope you've got a nice powerful engine, Davey! I envy you - you've GOT a boat  Still on the quest for ours. Looking at one on the River Cam tomorrow, unless Peter advises against it. |
thomo
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 16:16
Keep looking Call, and if one keeps pulling you back, that'l be it. Davey, the higher No, 042, is the total No,of boats built at that time by Doug, the other No, 12, is the number in sequence of boats built at Lower Park Marina Barnoldswick, . No 12,Forget- Me-Not was built for the aforementioned "Joe Bridges" Joe's son lives on a small replica L & L tug named Anna, he also worked on the L & L. My first job at the marina was fitting out one of his old River Class boats after conversion, "Wye". Old Joe sold everything he had to build that boat and just barely raised enough to finish it. Then a big black cloud descended on his life and I understand that he had to sell it for far less than its actual value. We the builders had long since lost sight of it, but from time to time we would get bits of news over the canal telegraph. Years passed and one afternoon a battered old tub wheezed up to the moorings, it was Old Joe, covered from head to foot in oil and soot, as was the entire boat, inside and out. If the boat looked bad, Joe looked even worse. When askedwhen he had last eaten he replied, "Ahs aw reet, gor anegg fo mi tea" he was trying to boil it in a tin over a candle. Situation rectified after despatching apprentice to the local chippie. Moral here is, "If you let young girls take advantage because you live on a boat, beware of the consequences". More to follow. Thomo.
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Callunna
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 16:53
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Moral here is, "If you let young girls take advantage because you live on a boat, beware of the consequences".
Are there any morals about owd girls living on a boat? Fascinating story about Joe and Forget-Me-Not, Peter. Please tell us more as soon as you can. I feel a song coming on... |
Callunna
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 17:05
Apologies for double post - but I think it's worth it.By an amazing coincidence, I went on to the Canal World website just after OGFB and there was a question from someone with a Doug Moore boat - Alice No. 1. They wanted more details, so maybe Thomo could help out? Clickie for Canal World Discussion Forum |
DAVEY
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 18:54
Brilliant stuff....this is exactly the kind of info I've been looking for......very interesting!. When I bought the boat it was moored at Knotts Bridge near Hapton on L+L. [last year]. Steve Porter, owner of the moorings, had told me about an old chap and local character owning her, but other than this I new nothing. So many folk have shown an interest in this boat and I didn't really have anything to tell em.............Thanks............looking forward to more of this, if u have any.  . Thanks Callunna for your input.........am going to have a look at Canal World now......... P.S. My engine is a 35hp Vetus diesel
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Stanley
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 19:19
Wouldn't it be nice if it was Gardner 3LW but then I always loved Gardners....... (Or even a 6LW...... now that would be a power plant!)
Stanley Challenger Graham
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thomo
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Posted - 14/08/2007 : 23:49
After your experiences with Gardner 3LWs or rather the people who owned them Stanley I would have expected more caution?. Davey, Last Vetus to be fitted by us to a in-house boat. I am rather surprised that you didnt hear more about old Joe in Hapton, thats where he came from, and that is also where he parted company with his dream. You could tell that he had grown up with horse drawn boats, men who have been heavily involved with horses and transport have a certain look about them and I was fortunate to have met a good many of them, my father used to look after the fire engine horses in Barlick before the first war. When Old Joe came to us he had a house in Skipton, this was also sold to fund his project. When build commenced, he would call in once a fortnight to view the progress and a happy man was he.There were no drawings for this boat, just a mental plan culled from Joes requests, I am going to have a word with my Stepson Simon and see if he can fill in any other interesting details, speak later. Thomo.
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 00:22
Gardners -
I used to have a pile of Gardner manuals that Dad was given by the widow of a chap who was a mechanic for Southern-Vectis Buses. I was intriuged by references to uses in "Railcars", until I remembered that Walkers of Wigan used them in railcars for the narrow-gauge Donegal and West Clare Railways in Ireland. The manuals found a good home with a Training colleague who was an active member of a Bus Museum in Manchester.
I also read somewhere, that old Gardner bus engines were, at one time, in big demand in India for boat engines. I suppose they were looking for something that could be repaired and maintained in the old way.
Wasn't the Gardner slogan something like " The quality lingers on when the price is forgotten"?
Malcolm
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Stanley
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Posted - 15/08/2007 : 08:53
There was no problem with the engine Peter, just the twerp that owned it! Malcolm, twenty years ago there was a thriving trade in Gardner 6LX and 6LXB engines for export to Asia for fishing boat engines. There was a cattle wagon firm up Halifax Road out of Nelson, I forget the name but was it Edge End Farm? They had a thriving trade going buying old wagons and stripping the engines out of them. They also did tractors, clean them, paint them up, flush the engines with thin oil and send them off. Apparently all the buyers looked at was how clean the oil was in them. The 6LX; the Gardner 150hp was the successor to the lw SERIES, 25HP PER CYLINDER INSTEAD OF 20. The LXB was the LX but running faster and higher delivery on the fuel pump, it got 30hp per cylinder. Gardners made a 150hp marine engine which was massive. The crankshaft was about eight feet long and it was a very popular engine. Ran at low speed and I'll bet there are plenty about today, they would never wear out. When I went to the Gardner factory in the 1970s they had a ten tear order book on those engines. I have something somewhere in me memoirs about all this, I'll look it out.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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DAVEY
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Posted - 24/08/2007 : 19:53
Hello............Just got back after Ribble Link trip...........no computers or fancy electronics on my boat ! It's back to basics.....the way I like it  . Trip was good , if anyones interested , but beware any one with a large air draft , at 7' 6" I only just got under the bridge at stair case locks. A fella operating sea lock recognised the boat and said Old Joe held the record for fastest time with a laden boat from Liverpool to Leeds.....anybody know about this?
Calluna............. Bought a boat yet ?
Thomo............. Wot are your views on epoxy for the hull under water........ Iam thinking of having it done.been told it will last 8-10 years....if so it's worth the money.............SEE YA .
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Callunna
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Posted - 26/08/2007 : 11:19
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Calluna............. Bought a boat yet ?
Had an offer on the house, but until it goes through we can't buy the boat we've got our eye on. Very frustrating. Nice to hear about your experiences on the Ribble Link. |
Stanley
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Posted - 26/08/2007 : 16:26
Good luck you two......... I shall do a house sale dance for you....
Stanley Challenger Graham
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