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Callunna
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Here's the first of what we (Big Kev and Callunna) hope will be many images combining old and new photos of Barnoldswick.
This one is a 19th century picture of Wellhouse Farm which stood on present day Church Street.
Having put the two images together, though, it's possible that the farm actually stood where the car park is now, ie behind Church Street on Brook Street. The gable end in the original photo didn't match the present day gable end of the Bodycare shop, whereas it might fit the one at the end of Garden/Market Street - but this might just be down to a variation in the position of the cameras.
Anyway - it was fun blending the two images together. And yes, that is Callunna standing next to the little girl...
Apologies for the small size. The original jpg is 1500pixels/127mm wide, but it seems to shrink when I insert it in a post.
Thanks to SG for supplying original Wellhouse Farm image.
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belle
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Posted - 06/04/2011 : 17:35
What a fantastic idea, are you going to sell them as postcards?
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Sunray10
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Posted - 06/04/2011 : 17:54
Very good Callunna, that's a great idea, and the photo looks just brill.
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Posted - 06/04/2011 : 17:55
Great idea.Nolic
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Posted - 06/04/2011 : 18:34
quote: Callunna wrote: The gable end in the original photo didn't match the present day gable end of the Bodycare shop, whereas it might fit the one at the end of Garden/Market Street - but this might just be down to a variation in the position of the cameras.
There is also the possibilty that the gable could be where Jesters is, looking at the buildings from behind there is a difference in building techniques. Was, the building that is now Jesters, built before Wellhouse Farm was demolished? I'll sort out a link to Stanley's original pic, should open up a bit of discussion
Edited by - Big Kev on 06/04/2011 18:38:17
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Callunna
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Posted - 06/04/2011 : 21:39
Yes BK, that would make sense.
I can't claim any credit for coming up with the idea of blending old and new photos - I saw some images done by a European guy, featuring Nazis marching past the present day Eiffel Tower. I just thought it would be nice to nick the idea and do Barlick scenes.
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Posted - 06/04/2011 : 22:17
Here's a bigger pic, I've had to knock the image quality down a bit but you can see the red sign of Jesters, fairly clearly, just beyond the farm house...
Edited by - Big Kev on 06/04/2011 22:21:43
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 10:35
I don't think it would be the Jesters gable Kev, that building is three stories whereas the one in the original Wellhouse photo is only two. I had a quick look at the frontage of the buildings on Church Street when Stanley first posted the picture but could not see any identifying common brickwork. The keystones left in the building for future tie in tell a tale though. Will have another look.
Interesting concept though. There is something magical about standing in the same place as your ancestors or at iconic locations that you have seen in historical footage. I remember standing at the Trocadero in Paris at the exact same spot that Hitler and his henchmen viewed the Eifel Tower from after the fall of Paris. Seen it in loads of historical wartime footage. Sent a shiver down my spine.
The local material is no less interesting and always a fascinating link with the past.
Good stuff..
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Callunna
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 10:58
quote: belle wrote: What a fantastic idea, are you going to sell them as postcards? BK & I have discussed the possibility of putting on an exhibition once we get a few more images. Postcards would be good but to be able to sell them for 35p or so each, you'd have to print 1000s.
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 12:10
quote: panbiker wrote: I don't think it would be the Jesters gable Kev, that building is three stories whereas the one in the original Wellhouse photo is only two. I had a quick look at the frontage of the buildings on Church Street when Stanley first posted the picture but could not see any identifying common brickwork. The keystones left in the building for future tie in tell a tale though. Will have another look.
It's the gable beyond the farmhouse that I think is Jesters, Ian. The 2 storey end, to the right of the farmhouse, matches with "Savages", I believe...
Big Kev
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 13:03
I get your drift now Kevin and would agree that Jesters is the most likely.
When looking at old buildings it is interesting to note that it was common practice to build from either end, particularly on terraced rows. This was to split the labour force working on the row so that they did not get under one anothers feet. Divide and conquer rule. The row would be built twice as fast as well. You can see evidence of this practice in many terraced rows by looking at the roof line somewhere around the middle of the row. Many show discrepencies when they met in the middle and will have a step up to join the two halves of the row.
My dad was in the building trade all his life and when I was renovating my first house he availed me of why there were vertical strips of infill plaster from floor to ceiling in the opposite corners of each wall. The first coat of plaster on the wall was applied by fixing a vertical baton at each end of the wall in the corner. If the wall was quite wide they would sometimes put a baton in the middle as well. A wide flat board with handles on the back was placed at 45 degrees between the battons. The "hopper" arangement was loaded with the plaster mix and the board was pushed up the wall to half way with the handles. A trestle arrangement would be set up with planks about half height up the wall and the board would be passed to a team of guys on the upper level who would run it to the top of the wall or as near as possible. A quick trowelling and you had the first coat done in one go. A very quick way of getting a lot of plaster on the wall at once. The battons were removed and the corners infilled, you can see this quite clearly in the build of lots of terraced houses.
A bit of a digression but interesting techniques to note.
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 13:11
I've used a very similar method for rendering larger areas, I need all the help I can get...
Big Kev
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 13:18
There will be prints available to buy.
Big Kev
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 15:15
Kev/Caluna,i think your spot on with your guestimation,the far 3 storey building was built by a different builder ,the stonework under the troughing/gutters is different,this wouldnt happen if they was all built at the same time..
By the way,great idea !!!
Panny,the 2 handled plastering tool is called a "Darby"(not sure on the spelling).
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panbiker
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 19:27
Thanks for that Tom, my dad did tell me at the time but I had forgotten what it was called.
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moh
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Posted - 08/04/2011 : 11:47
Is that Big Kev in the door way !!!
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