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Sunray10
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Has anyone got any information about the old inns of Nelson. My ancestor Matthew Manley was at one time the landlord of the old Nelson inn before it was rebuilt by Astley and Brown
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Bradders
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 Posted - 06/03/2011 : 16:49
I think my Uncle Eric Dugdale ran the Nelson , with his wife Dorothy , for a short while at the end of the 60's.(as Manager ?)...I know they didn't live there, because I walked home with them once ,to Hilldrop.
I'd noticed that all evening people were buying him a drink with their round , and he just accepted halves of bitter , and had one on the go the whole time. During the walk , I mentioned this and asked him how much he normally drank (he appeared to be Merry but by no means drunk)......"Sometimes I have about 14 pints ....and sometimes I have a LOT ! ".....I'm sure he was fibbing ....
I remember it as a large friendly place with what seemed like a huge lounge bar where they employed someone to "Wait-on" .......and a very dark little "men only" snug .
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Sunray10
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Posted - 06/03/2011 : 17:31
Thanks for that Bradders, yes it used to be a nice place to be in, don't think its quite so nice now though. Its got run down a bit and the upstairs rooms don't appear to be used now. Hilldrop is at the bottom of Hallam Road, I know it well.
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Another
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Posted - 06/03/2011 : 18:32
The Lord Nelson is now commonly known as The Zoo - you don't need 3 guesses to work out why. Nolic
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Sunray10
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Posted - 06/03/2011 : 19:50
Yes I know it is. I used to go in there, but I don't think I would now. Its getting a bit rough. There are always some dodgy looking characters hanging about just outside the door.
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Sunray10
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Posted - 07/03/2011 : 20:48
Anybody have memories of the New Inn and Prince of Wales public houses on Leeds Road, Nelson.
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BarryS
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Posted - 08/03/2011 : 12:14
This is for Sunray10.
Matthew Manley was your Great Great Great Grandfather. He was born 17.3.1816 the son of Oates Manley and Margaret 'Peggy' Manley (ne Hindle). Matthew was brought up on their farm in Lower Bradley.
Across from this farm was another farm known as Lower Bradley Farm where lived his Grandmother Ann Pollard (ne Hindle ne Holt) and his Stepgrandfather Matthew Pollard. Matthew Pollard was a wealthy man by 19th Century standards owing much land and property including Lower Bradley Farm.
In 1805 Matthew Pollard built the first Lord Nelson Inn on land he had bought known as Hibson Meadow. He had planned to call it the Hibson Inn but following Admiral Nelson's victory and death at Trafalgar he decided to call it the Lord Nelson Inn.
Between 1805 and 1863 the Inn was tenanted by a number of people.
In 1827 Matthew Pollard died whilst swimming in the sea at Blackpool. When the will was read it was realised that Matthew Manley then aged 11 had inherted half of Matthew Pollard's estate - the Inn, Hibson Meadow ( later Nelson Meadow) and various other associated buildings. He was also to get a total of £500 from the rents until he actualy took responsibility for the property from the trustees (1842 following his Grandmother's death).
As a youth Matthew was apprenticed to the shoe trade. He opened a shop on what is now Leeds Road. Later he opened a grocers shop in Colne.
He married Alice Armistead daughter of Thomas and Sarah Armistead a grocer and coal merchant from Barrowford. Matthew and Alice had five children Sarah Ann (your Great Great Grandmother), Oates, Eleazer, Margaret and William. Alice died in 1854.
In 1859 Matthew Manley married Elizabeth Hillary a widow and then landlady of the Fleece Inn, Church Street, Colne. Together they ran the Walton Arms, Market Street, Colne until 1863.
At the end of 1863 when the opportunity arose Matthew Manley moved into the Lord Nelson Inn as Landlord. In 1864 your Great Grandfather Harry Hartley Hillary was born there. His father George Hillary had married Mathew's daughter Sarah Ann after a 6 year courtship the year before.
Matthew Manley died following a stroke 16.3.1870 after which the Inn was sold to Astley and Brown whose brewing and property empire was expanding.
The Old Lord Nelson Inn was demolished in 1892 and replaced by the building which stands on the site today.
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thomo
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Posted - 08/03/2011 : 13:33
Bob and Mary are a couple that I see often and I think they were at one time the hosts at the Prince of Wales, they still live in that area, not sure of the surname but will find out.
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Sunray10
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Posted - 08/03/2011 : 14:04
Thank you BarryS for that very helpful information on Matthew Manley and the Lord Nelson Inn.
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Sunray10
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Posted - 08/03/2011 : 17:36
Click on link for photo of my GGG grandfather Matthew Manley who was landlord of The Lord Nelson Inn from 1863 until his death in 1870. http://www.oneguyfrombarlick.co.uk/files/pictures/8/57/20110117151542_3199_1.JPG
Edited by - Sunray10 on 08/03/2011 17:40:18
Edited by - Sunray10 on 08/03/2011 17:47:19
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thomo
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Posted - 11/03/2011 : 12:14
Re: The Prince of Wales, Bob and Mary Edmonson are the couple I know, I understand they had the pub for quite a while, I mentioned this topic when I spoke with Bob this morning, his comment, "There aren't many left".
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Posted - 11/03/2011 : 13:38
Thank you for that information Thomo. I agree, there aren't many left. The Hour Glass has gone and so as The General Gordon and Clayton Arms. There must be others ?
Edited by - Sunray10 on 11/03/2011 13:39:37
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Sunray10
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Posted - 11/03/2011 : 17:13
The old Nelson Inn drawn by my grandfather George Hillary in 1932.
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BarryS
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Posted - 12/03/2011 : 11:14
This is in reply to Sunray10's question about the New Inn, Leeds Road, Nelson.
The New Inn was built by your ancestor William Manley grandfather of your ancestor Matthew Manley of the Lord Nelson Inn.
William Manley was born in 1758 the son of John Manley and Elizabeth Sellers. William was one of 7 children born to this couple. Although the family had its orgins in Newchurch in Pendle and William was to be buried there in 1811 the family seem to have lived in either Colne or Barrowford.
William married Mary Holt the daughter of William Holt of Little Marsden in 1778. The couple eventualy settled in Bradley Lane Head (what is now the area just above the railway line on Barkerhouse Road) where William ran a Beer House which had its own brewery adjoining.
In 1800 William realised there might be more money to be made if he relocated his business to the new Turnpike Road what is now Leeds Road. His request for his licence to be relocated was granted and he then built the New Inn.
The beer house at Bradley Lane Head probably became a dwelling house for William and his wife after he let the Inn to his daughter Olive and his son in law RIchard Rushton.
William died in 1811. There was a will. After making provision for his wife and for the education of his eldest grandchildren William left the Inn and property at Bradley Lane Head to his daughter Olive and his son Oates. They immediately set about trying to sell the property but for some reason were unable to sell it. Olive and Richard then continued as Landlord and Landlady until their deaths. The New Inn was subsequently sold to Astley and Brown.
The New Inn was recently converted into a dwelling. The present building looks like it might have been a later rebuild but I have no information on this.
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Sunray10
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Posted - 17/04/2011 : 23:23
The Shooters Arms on Southfield Lane at Catlow, Nelson. It was built back in 1660 but has seen some restoration since that time. Originally a coaching inn situated along the high road between Burnley and Colne. It is still a thriving hostelry that affords good panoramic views of Pendle Hill and the surrounding countryside.
Edited by - Sunray10 on 17/04/2011 23:28:48
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