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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
NEW VERSION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MEMBERS WITH SLOW CONNECTIONS TO CONNECT.

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gearce
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 04:59
What happened to the 'Guest Welcome Message' on the opening page?


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


36804 Posts
Posted - 18/04/2011 : 06:30
Well done Ian! I have to admit I was not aware until I saw the flyer. Catty, to some of us local elections are about the candidates not the party. I voted Liberal many a time when they were more attractive but Mr Roberts has solved a problem for me.

Gearce, I don't know, ask Doc.

AV 'debate' spawns some strange bedfellows, Cameron and John Reid agreeing?! They all seem to believe that AV spawns coalitions, they should listen to the interview with the Professor of Politics who analysed the 1997 and 2010 election results. The threat of the BNP is raised as well. Does anyone really worry about them getting 50% of the votes? Even on a second or third round of counting? More politics than statesmanship in this argument. 

Prseident of the World Bank warns of the effect of shocks on the global economy citing energy and food prices and problems in the Euro Zone. I hope Osborne et al are taking notice!


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Stanley
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 07:57


At long last the new shop front is completed. Tidy.


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 08:01


The end buiding in Cooperative Street gets a long-needed face lift. A good job and a great improvement.


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panbiker
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 09:19
Ray, it does'nt really matter whether the candidate recognised me as a socialist or not. His opening gambit was a lie so any further input from him would be like water off a ducks back. He got the response he deserved. I suppose I should have used the old trick of engaging him in long conversation to stop him spreading the non truth, but I could not resist the short sharp shock treatment. I must be losing my touch.

Stanley, all the candidates were published in the BET and the CH a couple of weeks ago.

Ok on Eddie's shop front, done more in historical keeping with the rest of the row, a nice change fronm the 60's clinical look of the former Elmers chemists shop.

For myself I am waiting for a call regarding a job I was interviewed for on Friday. It would be a good bonus if it came good.

Today is my youngest son Jack's 25th birthday. He's been looking forward to this one, he becomes instantly more sensible from an insurance point of view. Totaly stupid rule of course, he's been driving since he was 17 and has 8 years no claims already. Not all youngsters are nutters despite the statistics. Pitifull that the insurers are not willing to filter on facts rather than stereotype.


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tripps
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 10:41
"Does anyone really worry about them getting 50% of the votes?"

There seems to be some confusion on this point.  The winner does not need to get over 50%. If after all other votes have been distributed no one has over 50%, then the one with the most votes is elected.   That's the way I read the government leaflet on the subject. The recent BBC dry run on R5 gave such a result .
  I don't understand why you would vote for Mr Roberts in a local election when you say you don't know him.


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 11:27
I agree with your last bit Tripps, I was brought up to understand that in local elections you would vote for the best person for the job regardless of his or her political leanings.


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panbiker
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 12:24
I know him and can vouch that he is a good upstanding member of the community. Bill is a licenced Radio Amateur like myself, we used to share and interest in building antennas  and had numerous joint ventures into radio contests during the 1980's. He was very keen photographer as well.

Of course as a retired activist I might just be spinning propaganda. He will take preference over the bloke that lied to me on the doorstep.

On another related voting matter. Who was it that decided that it should be this particular flavour of AV that we are being asked to vote on?


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catgate
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Posted - 18/04/2011 : 14:41


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Stanley wrote:   Catty, to some of us local elections are about the candidates not the party.

I think your view is rather naive, Stanley, if you really think the candidates are more interested in the wellbeing  of the electorate than their own wellbeing.

I had a chap who workd for me, a well educated university  graduate, who was as red as could be. He was a shop steward and a regular local and national election worker. He finally got his ride into the local council on a red ticket. Then the local mood changed and became more middle of the road. He lost his seat............until he eventually became a commited Liberal and returned to being a councillor on a yellow ticket!

 


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Callunna
Revolving Grey Blob


3044 Posts
Posted - 18/04/2011 : 16:44
Just had to turn down a temporary job as a Census Survey Interviewer.

I got through the online application, the telephone interview, the DVD training, the workbook training and finally the "e-learning" test. Once accepted I was invited to attend the 1-day classroom training session.

The website had assured me that the work would be local and that I wouldn't need my own transport - but I just found out the classroom is in Blackburn and starts at 9am.

Local?

It takes a good 40 minutes to drive there when there's not much traffic - longer in rush hour. But by public transport it's well nigh impossible.

The curt woman on the end of the phone was incredulous when I said I would struggle to get there by bus(es). "What - you mean there isn't a train station near you?" she said witheringly in an Essex accent.

"No - not since 1963" I replied, equally witheringly.

Such a shame - I really fancied being a part of the census team and thought it would be good to be walking round Barlick - but there's no way I'm wandering round Blackburn up to 9pm on my own, doing doorstep interviews.


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 19/04/2011 : 06:06
Heather, never be surprised when you find that there are people in this world who are ignorant about the conditions we poor Northeners live in. If it was a London call centre she probably thinks everyone has an Underground Station on their doorstep!

Simple David, I like the look of him, I did some minimal research and he gets my vote. Catty, naive or not, that's my view. I shan't be voting for David Whipp, the Liberal but give him his due, he is active in all the projects on the Town Square etc. He was out at 6am on Sunday morning putting the St George's flags up round the Town Sqare etc in the sockets they use for the Christmas trees. There are still people who put the good of the community before the Party Line. Gordon Prentice was a good example. If there was a choice between what he saw as the good of the community and the Whp, he chose the former every time.

Who would have ever thought that the US would be humiliated by a debt-rating agency. Their debt is now 58% of GDP.

The latest report on the second enquiry into the Mid Staffs 'Health' Trust brings more clarity to what happened. Three PCTs were amalgamated far too quickly and there were major failings in the process. There were no detaile-hand-over processes to endure that lines of communication were in place and properly used. In consequence problems were not reported back to management and no remedial action taken. Basically the management failed because they were more driven by fulfilling tight deadlines than ensuring good quality control. The ex-Chief Executive has admitted the truth of this report and apologised. What they didn't mention was the in-fighting that went on inside management as reported in Private Eye, and let's not forget that it was the PE reports that triggered the enquiry in the first place.(I don't think they mentioned that either!)

I was surprised to see an expensive TV advert on the delights of Bahrein and its investment opportunities. Funny they didn't mention the internal unrest!

Libya.... Can anyone see any positive signs in this situation?


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frankwilk
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Posted - 19/04/2011 : 08:09
" Looks like he got caught out, trying to con you in to believing there was no Labour candidate standing in your ward "

Would the ballot paper not show who was who ??? So why would someone bother to lie ?? It just seems a strange thing to do. I still can't believe that someone on the door step could influence peoples voting intentions anyway !!! 


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frankwilk
Senior Member


3975 Posts
Posted - 19/04/2011 : 08:17
Who would have ever thought that the US would be humiliated by a debt-rating agency.
Me living beyond your/our  means just couldn't go on, look at what the last Goverment did to our finances !!!
Heard this morning 1 in 3 people in Swansea work in the public sector, was this just a way to reduce the unemployment numbers, by transeferring people onto the Public Purse ???



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HerbSG
Senior Member


1185 Posts
Posted - 19/04/2011 : 09:15
So Stanley help me here, I believe you have earlier noted that you vote in municipal elections for the man who can/does more for the area, you also said you knew nothing about Roberts 2 days ago, now after "minimal research" you will vote for him.  This despite the fact that David Whipp does things for the town.  Your minimum research I am sure was not simply to ascertain that Roberts is indeed the labour candidate?  By the way I do not care who you vote for , just trying to understand the reasoning.


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panbiker
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Posted - 19/04/2011 : 10:00
I will also agree that David Whipp does a lot for the town, however, that is not the question here. He is not standing in the council election. The Lib Dem candidate is a first time runner just like the Labour candidate, so neither have a track record.

Barlick has two wards, Coates and Craven, the existing Liberal Councillors in each ward are both standing down and not seeking re-election. Whoever is elected in each ward will be a new face on Pendle Council.

Frank, regarding David Stead's patter on the doorstep, I could not quite believe it either and could see nothing to gain from his statement, certainly not with me although some may be duped. The canvas opened with this statement "I was wondering if I could count on your vote in the forthcoming election in Craven Ward as there is no Labour candidate standing this time". I challenged this as I had already seen the list of candidates in the local papers. He then re-confirmed his previous statement? It was at this point that I told him that he was lying and that we had nothing more to discuss.

I cannot explain why a candidate should maintain a lie such as this but I was not unduly surprised by anything that will be claimed on the doorstep. It's a throwaway discussion between two individuals and can always be denied. It was interesting that Stanley had picked up on the lie "on the grapevine" and I had experienced it directly.

It is true that all the candidates are named on the ballot but many at the polls will simply vote on party lines. If challenged I would think that a good proportion of voters would not be able to name the candidates.


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