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Callunna
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Found this information on the Craven's Part in the Great War website ( www.cpgw.org.uk ) which is a fantastic resource. David was married to my great aunt. Here are the details: 
I've transcribed the text so that if anyone is doing a family history search, it will show up: KILLED DURING A RAID ON ENEMY LINES
News came to hand on Tuesday that another Barnoldswick soldier, Private David Walling, of the Tyneside Scottish (Northumberland Fusiliers) had been killed in France on Sunday, the 11th inst. The deceased was 26, married, and one of three soldier sons of Mr. and Mrs. Francis Walling, 20, Clifford Street, Barnoldswick. Before joining the Army he was employed as a weaver at Mr. W, Horsfield's Barnsey Shed. In a letter to Mrs. walling (widow), Pte. W. Smith, a Barnoldswick comrade in the same battalion, writes:- "Your husband went out on a raid into the German lines, and was hit by a bomb. I had my tea with him before he went over, and we arranged to look after each other's things in case we didn't get back. His other mates send you their deepest sympathy. You don't realise the effect it has had upon us, as he was well liked by all the boys." Pte. Walling had been in France eight months.
Edited by - Callunna on 20 February 2007 09:38:01
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Posted - 19/02/2007 : 12:09
Welcome back Callune - thought we had lost you - great story for anyone related.
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Stanley
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Posted - 19/02/2007 : 17:56
What year was it H? Three sons in the war..... did the other two survive?
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Callunna
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Posted - 19/02/2007 : 18:33
Sorry - 1917.No further information. Gt Aunt Bertha never spoke to me about this, as I was only young when she died aged 99. The newspaper clipping doesn't yet appear on the entry on the CPGW website, but it was sent to me by a really nice person called Chris in response to my email adding further info to David's details. I got permission to post it on here and h/she was very complimentary about OGFB. They want to bring it to the attention of more Barlick people as there are many Barlick lads in their list. |
Stanley
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 06:40
I looked at the list on the site:
WALLING, Private, JAMES, 29963. 5th Bn. Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment). 17th November 1918. Age 21. Son of Francis and Hannah Walling, of 8, Bank St., Barnoldswick, Yorks. 1. G. II.
[published on the site by rowenakirk]
This is supposed to be a complete list of names. Obviously some gaps somewhere. You'd think he was from the same family?
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Callunna
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 09:37
Yes - it seems that he had a brother called James, according to the CPGW record (see below). The newspaper clipping mentions three soldier sons. The website people know that their records are incomplete and positively welcome any additional information. The family must have moved from Clifford Street to Bank Street in either 1917 or 1918. This is David Walling's record on CPGW: Main CPGW Record
• Surname: WALLING
• Forename(s): David
• Place of Birth: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
• Residence: unknown
• Service: Army
• Service No: 40749
• Rank: Private
• Regiment/Corps: Northumberland Fusiliers
• Battalion/Unit: 23rd (Service) Battalion (4th Tyneside Scottish)
• Division: 34th Division
• Age: 26
• Date of Death: 1917-02-11
• Awards: -----
• CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: Panel 2.
• CWGC Cemetery: -----
• CWGC Memorial: PLOEGSTEERT MEMORIAL
• Comments: Brother of James Walling (29963). "Craven's Part in the Great War" entry:?PRIVATE DAVID WALLING, Northumberland Fusiliers, son of Mr. & Mrs. Francis Walling, 20, Clifford Street, Barnoldswick, killed in action 11th February, 1917. Aged 26 years. |
Callunna
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 15:05
I've been contacted by Chris from CPGW who can add the following information in reply to Stanley's question about what happened to the other two boys. The Bank Street address must have been an error.
This is from The Craven Herald:
PRISONER'S DEATH IN GERMANY After being reported "missing" since last July, news has come through this week to Mr. and Mrs. Francis Walling, 20 Clifford Street, Barnoldswick, that their son, Pte. James Walling, West Riding Regt., died on the 17th November at Riosa, Germany, from influenza and intestinal catarrh. He was 21 years of age. This is the second bereavement Mr. and Mrs. Walling have sustained during the war, an elder son, Pte. David Walling, N F., being killed at Armentieres in February, 1917. Pte. Tom Walling (eldest son) is in hospital in France recovering from pneumonia.
Chris says in his email to me:
So far we have indexed over 5,000 articles from the Craven Herald from the period 1914-1921, this as been a huge task as you can imagine, over 2,000 photocopies were made from searches of the microfilm held at Skipton Library. All this information then had to be edited, marked and then scanned and finally typed for presentation to the site, this is still on going.
We have to repeat this whole operation again with the West Yorkshire Pioneer because at the time they hadn't amalgamated with the Craven Herald. We have also found an extra 950 men who for some reason never made it into the original book, these men have been found on War Memorials, Craven Herald articles, Soldiers died and Commonwealth War Graves Commission Records. All this information will eventually be added to website, along with any new info we get from the families of these men, something I'm very keen to promote.
Edited by - Callunna on 21 February 2007 09:30:43 |
Stanley
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 18:13
So they lost at least two sons...... So sad. Can you imagine getting the telegrams.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 20/02/2007 : 21:09
It must have been heartbreaking - especially as the third son was ill - maybe he was 'never the same again' as they used to say. I can remember the telegram boy coming to Kelbrook during the second world war - in one case to the mother of a school friend of mine
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Stanley
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Posted - 21/02/2007 : 06:20
From the look of it, James almost certainly died from Spanish Flu. Tom could possibly be suffering from the after-effects of the same thing. As for the lad on the bike and the small brown envelope..... It is no wonder that the general perception of telegrams was that they were bad news. I've always wondered why the autorities used the telegram for this purpose and not a letter. Talk about bad news travelling fast! I wonder if this is perhaps a reinforcement of this phrase.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 21/02/2007 : 11:58
Obviously the telegram was quicker than a letter - and fewer words so making it easier for the sender. Such details in letters would be very difficult to put into words. It is a wonder more people did't have heart attacks when they saw the telegraph boy stop his bike outside their house.
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Walling, David (killed in WWI)
