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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
NEW VERSION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MEMBERS WITH SLOW CONNECTIONS TO CONNECT.

Follw this LINK for last version.


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Stanley
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 07:32
PS. Is it any wonder that when we were given the chance we had all our teeth pulled out!


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frankwilk
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 08:35
"A brave decision and not calculated to make his life easier in the force"

I do believe he has left the Force and Emigrated. Brave Decsion !!!!



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frankwilk
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 09:31
Did you see the Australian Prime Minister being interviewed at the cricket.
 
Refreshing



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Bradders
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 09:47
Better be careful Frank....He might have "emigrated " to Scotland........!


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Bradders
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 11:21
The BBC have axed Radio Derby's " FOLKWAVES" program......

It has been presented by two people I know quite well , for the last Twenty-five years.

It's an insult to musicians everywhere (no, NOT the program....the decision !)

If any site member (OR  VISITOR for that matter) has Derby or folk music connections , and wants to add weight to the campaign to bring it back , here's a link to the Facebook page that has been created......

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/pages/Save-Folkwaves-on-BBC-Radio-Derby/173039876049804

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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 12:27
Herb, a bit more information for you on the algae fuel. I posted this in the Power Cuts thread last October. The problem with `farms' (known as solar ponds) is that there just isn't enough ground space available to meet the needs....
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Some good news. A better way has been developed to produce fuel oils by growing oil-rich algae in reactors. There has been a lot of interest in algae for making biofuel but the idea has run up against practical problems. A company called Solazyme has come up with a different approach. A couple of US students realised that they could apply their genetic engineering expertise to make algae that would provide designer oils rather than just any old oil, so no refining or modification of the oil would be needed - it could go straight from clean-up into an engine. They set up small bioreactors in their garage, were successful and started a company to scale up the process.

The scale-up followed the usual algae industry route where the cells are grown in shallow ponds using sunlight. The algae harvest the sunlight through photosynthesis and use the energy to make the oil. The designer oils looked really good, just what industry needs but so much oil was required to meet the needs that they realised the solar ponds would never be sufficient even if you covered much of the US with them.

That's were they made the next mental jump. The ponds are inefficient because they have to be shallow, the light doesn't penetrate far into the `algal pea soup'. In fact growing corn is more efficient in harvesting sunlight. So they now grow corn, mill it to get the starch which is hydrolysed to sugar and then fed to the algae in huge reactors. They had to develop new algae strains that used sugar instead of sunlight for their energy. The process still gets its energy ultimately from sunlight but by a more efficient and viable route. Solazyme is now working with a number of other companies who want to take advantage of the opportunity of having tailor-made oils which are also made from a sustainable resource.

The next step is replace the corn (maize) starch with corn (or other) cellulose as the source of sugar for the algae. That way you can make your sugar from the waste material left over from food production or from special crops grown on land unsuitable for food crops. If they are really clever they will engineer the enzyme for breaking down cellulose into the algae, so you can feed the cells finely divided cellulose. But think of it as just one more way to make fuel - we will probably always need to rely on multiple sources in the future.


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Bradders
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 12:33
" No Principles"..... Surely the fact that he has decided to help in the defence of a group , that  he was ordered to infiltrate, demonstrates EXACTLY the  opposite.....

or am I missing something ?

On the face of it , the convictions of others involved in this affair , would now seem to be at least  "unsafe" .

PS The good people of Somerset are quite capable of defending themselves , I will leave it to them.

(I live in Cornwall...! Wink)

Edited by - Bradders on 10/01/2011 12:39:41 PM


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belle
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 12:41
Yes I was a bit confused by that, but thought it better to say nothing...


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Tizer
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 16:00
"PS The good people of Somerset are quite capable of defending themselves , I will leave it to them." - Bradders

Yes, I had noticed that Bradders but I don't want to start any more wars!


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Bradders
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 23:04
Frank...I offer my apology...I simply had no idea that you were only  intending to  insult  your in-laws.....

PS    Your convoluted defence of the comment  ( "No principles" )  simply doesn't wash......Principles were involved !

 

 

 

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Stanley
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 06:29
Call me a cynic but the fact that the authorities are doing all they can to stop clear information about this officer's role being made public, or even admitting that his whistle-blowing caused the collapse of the trial signals that there could be something quite dodgy buried in here. Who authorised whatever was done and how well was it supervised? This was long term infiltration and deep involvement.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 07:27
10 years involvement . I agree the authorities are trying to protect something/someone else. How can you be an "Agent Provocateur" when you have switched sides.
I still stand by my statement on the facts as presented, albeit by the media. He should have resigned on Principle when he felt he could no longer go on in his role as a Police Officer taking our Money on false pretences.
When you plan to Break the Law (breaking into a Power Station) You are planning a Criminal Act, that is something that needs to be monitored very closely indeed. Protest by all means but don't Break the Law and put 100s of lives at risk, and the cost to  the country would have been astronomica if the Grid had failed through this planned wanton act of eco terrorism. !!!

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belle
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 10:32
Perhaps it's as my mpther always said "You live with a person long enough, you get like them."


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Bradders
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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 10:47
Not standing  by silently as others are wrongly tried and possibly convicted (when one is a material witness to their innocence) seems to me to be an admirable course of action....Wouldn't you agree ?

As for the assertion that these events could have resulted in deaths , I bow to superior knowledge concerning the workings of the National Grid.......However, Lord MacDonald doesn't seem to agree with it ....and I quote "This is not serious, outrageous, dangerous crime that threatens the state "

As he is a former DPP , I'm guessing he is quite well informed.

Here is a link to said Gentleman , and I draw your attention to Paragraph # 4 , where he is quoted on the subject of surveillance......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Macdonald

Finally , bearing in mind that this is a public forum , are you accusing the officer of fraud ?

 

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Posted - 11/01/2011 : 10:50
Watch out for news that Portugal is asking for a financial bail-out like Greece and Ireland. We're not being told much but EU ministers are getting panicky! If Portugal falls then Spain will become even more wobbly and will make a bigger dent in the Euro when it falls than any of the countries so far.


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