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Stanley
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Posted -  28/04/2011  :  07:37
Political comment is a high risk activity on the site these days so I thought I'd try again to give those who are interested in politics a safe haven!


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 11/06/2011 : 05:14
Belle, Doc set the site up as per the statement on the home page and the only reason I heard about it was that he wanted content to start it off andf I had it.

Herb, if you read the topics carefully and note the timings you'll find that you have it the wrong way round, Frank is the posse as he doesn't post except to disagree with what has already been said.  You've just joined that posse. Read Another's post for the results of this constant attack. Read all the topics and recognise that that the only places where there is friction is where people indulge in personal attacks.  That's the root of the problem.

I shall go back to my recent policy, ignore all attacks and carry on as normal. It's all very sad.

 


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Stanley
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Posted - 11/06/2011 : 05:28
Richard, I think I am living in the same world as you. The natives and the dogs are friendly, the streets are clean and the parks and open spaces are well tended. All right, the world isn't perfect and occasionally we have to stand up and tell the truth. A friend of mine sent me a Christmas card, The message was "Keep reading, thinking and telling it as you see it" That about sums it up. He reads all my stuff but I have to admit he has a vested interest, he was my tutor at Lancaster and opened my eyes to many things. We should all have a Steve in our lives!


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HerbSG
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Posted - 11/06/2011 : 15:42
Stanley, I have not joined any posse.  I was pointing out that nothing has changed over 6 weeks, that the only depression I have noted (from your posts) is over Barlick..the rest of the country appears to me to be vibrant with some areas even booming.  I think we need to wear 3D glasses or something to help us realize when posted replies are/are not personal attacks.  Why not stick to comments on topics rather than ridiculing the source?


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thomo
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Posted - 11/06/2011 : 18:03
I live in the same world as everybody else. The streets are not bad (not as clean as Swedens perhaps), the parks that remain are tidy if lacking in their earlier qualities, and no, the world is not perfect. Nor will it ever be so, or at least until everybody pulls together and tries to make it so. Many have forsaken religion, yet still hang on the words of Archbishops, others see their religion as the maxim for life, in some cases totally out of step with the modern world. There are some who complain of hunger and poverty whilst producing more of the same at an alarming rate. In most places the tools for making things better are in place but are ignored by those who just do not care, somebody else will do it. They who think that it isnt their problem will make the most noise when it is, whilst those who have tried will just try and get on with it in the hopes that they will succeed. A big society can only work if the people want it to. "Telling it as it is" is fine providing that you are prepared to go the whole distance and help as well.


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Stanley
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Posted - 12/06/2011 : 06:06
I agree Thomo. So did Allan Buck when he stated in public that my nagging was useful feed-back. Look at the trash screen in Clough Park, the council have got the message about the 1932 flood. Ernie Roberts' evidence in the LTP led to an article and gave impetus to saving the Suuatter's House in Walmsgate. My articles 'Walking with David' were used by him to press for the Steam and Water trail. History can be useful stuff. Several other little improvements as well. Current projects are Poorbones and the town well in the wall at Gisburn Road school. Slow because of lack of funds but we will get there.

 As for national politics, I have no illusions about any influence I might have. Mind you, I have reason to believe that I am being read in some surprising places. Who knows, my constant banging away about the defects I see based on my understanding of history might have a tiny effect somewhere. ChaosTheory states that tiny events can trigger global change. Perhaps I am just a butterfly flapping my wings. Someone once asked me why I bothered writing an article a week for the paper. I said that I had the naive view that it might reduce the incidence of public telephone vandalism in the town if awareness was raised that we have a history to be proud of. That's still my hope and my contribution to society. I had the idea before Dave!


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belle
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Posted - 13/06/2011 : 08:17
tiny events...the london match girls strike comes to mind..almost insignificant in one wa and a  huge event in history in a another.


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Stanley
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Posted - 14/06/2011 : 05:27
Quite Belle. Wonder if the Slut March will have any effect?

If it wasn't for the fact that the subject is so serious it would be quite entertaining watching Cameron and Clegg having their playground spat over who comes out best from the debate on the Health Bill. A good example of the process of Westminster poilitics getting precedence over good governance. Could they please stop squabbling and get down to some serious work?


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Posted - 15/06/2011 : 05:55
Caught a brief news flash that Osborne will support ring-fencing of banks casino operations this morning. If so well done and about time. I'll have to look at the details though..... Sounds too good to be true. I am not holding my breath!

See This Guardian article


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HerbSG
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Posted - 15/06/2011 : 17:07
In this post collapse phase one would expect unions and management to try to help the upswing continue...ah well, not so in Canada....Postal workers have been conducting rotating strikes, finally management shut down with a lock out.  Air Canada customer service/counter staff are on strike...who wins?


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Stanley
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Posted - 16/06/2011 : 06:38
I can't comment on Canada but over here the reason why strikes are being threatened is because the unions can see no evidence that the policy makers have listened, let alone responded, to reasoned argument and a sound case. People don't strike just to be bloody-minded. They have to be convinced there is a case.

However, I'm not too sure about the present dispute over pension provision in the public services. If they are objecting to cuts based on dogma rather than reasoned argument I support them but at the moment I'm not clear about the problems behind the dispute. One thing is certain, a lot of reasonable people have reached the end of their tether, in itself an inditement of how the matter of pensions has been handled.

George Osborne has a little crow over the staistics issued yesterday that show unemployment has fallen. He should be very careful. It is far more likely that what the statistics are showing is the result of people being shuffled from one benefit to another, for instance, the number claiming benefit has risen. No detail in the figures about long term unemployed which experience shows is the best indicator. No mention either of the quality of these 'new jobs' or the level of remuneration. Are these proper long term jobs paying a living wage? Or are they simply temporary employment which gets people off the radar.


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HerbSG
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Posted - 16/06/2011 : 07:08
air canada management are attempting to get a new deal on pensions on new hires, not all that bad..if you don't like the deal..don't take the job!


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Stanley
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Posted - 16/06/2011 : 08:55
 Ed Balls will make a speech today on the economy and my prediction is that the headline will be "Balls says New Labour economic policies not to blame for the deficit". It's a bit more complicated than this. Love him or hate him, Balls has a good grasp of economics and is an intelligent bloke. What he is doing in the speech is showing that the people who got it so wrong that they advised that the Major government should embrace the ERM are now advising the ConDem coalition in their programme of cuts.  Quite rightly in my opinion he suggests that the evidence is that the policies are driven by Tory dogma and the gamble is that by moving so fast and cutting so deep the government will have a case for tax cuts before the next General Election. If this is achieved it will be largely on the backs of the people least able to afford the cuts, the bottom half of the economy. Cameron will go into attack dog mode but while you're listening to him rubbishing what Ed Balls is saying bear in mind that Balls might have a point.

See this LINK for more detail.


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Callunna
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Posted - 16/06/2011 : 09:49
I'm reading "The Crow Road" by Iain Banks at present and came across this from a character quoting Gaelic pronunciation:

"Toe-rag, Tuareg, Tory"


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 16/06/2011 : 10:18
Or it may be just a load of balls. As for industrial action, these people have jobs for which they are not badly paid, throughout my working life if I was being paid to do something, then I was expected to do it. Action and protest have their time and place, this is neither.


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Stanley
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Posted - 17/06/2011 : 05:56
So you've read the speech Peter? There is a lot of good sense in it backed by sound evidence. As predicted, Cameron dismisses it as 'a recipe for bankruptcy'. We'll see. As for strikes, people don't strike because they are bloody-minded, they are at the end of their tether. They have no clear information what will happen to pensions,there are some very hard cases out there affecting people retiring now.

I wonder whether we'll hear young Osborne crowing about the 1.4% fall in High Street spanding last month, wiping out the 1% rise the month before. The figure is worse than it looks. Food sales down 3.5% and household goods by 6.5%.  Average is lifted by the fact that some luxury goods are doing quite well thank you. The well-heeled taking advantage of good deals. These are not good figures and they could get worse as inflation continues to erode disposable incomes. On the best estimates, this reduction in income is set to be a factor for at least another 18 months.


Cameron assures us that the imminent default on sovereign debt by Greece will not mean we have to pay out anything as we are not members of the Euro. This is disingenuous to say the least. The banks on Germany and France are the worst affected, France has  33billion Euro, didn't catch the German total but UK banks have 8billion. If Greece reneges on debt the banks take the hit but this rebounds on individual economies. If the EU decides to bail them out so they can pay interest on their debts (currently running at bout 30%) all EU members will be asked to contribute. The betting is that Greece can't avoid reneging on the debt, expect an announcement from EU finance ministers very quickly. Whatever they decide it's bad news. The situation is complicated by the fact that Greece could trigger other defaults and if that happens the outlook is very bad for the Euro as a currency. We live in 'interesting times'!


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