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Callunna
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Posted -  12/07/2011  :  09:11
Tesco are considering opening a store in Barnoldswick.

They claim it will create 175 jobs and keep shoppers in the town, as well as saving local firm L&P Springs.

There are 2 exhibitions taking place this Friday and Saturday for people to gain more information.

Views, anyone? 


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Tardis
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 10:52
Rumour of planning permission documents going into the council today.


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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 12:55


quote:
panbiker wrote:
Noticed yesterday that the new Spar is progressing well. They are starting to develop the forecourt area as well as the main building now.

Edited by - panbiker on 30/10/2011 10:52:42


The new office and workshop at Vicarage Motors is progressing well. It fits in nicely with the new Spar. There's talk of developing the old showroom and office space into retail outlets. Should smarten up that bit of the town if it happens...


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Tardis
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Posted - 11/11/2011 : 10:43
getting quite a bit of email traffic about:

http://www.tescopoly.org/

the campaign may be afoot, and out on Saturday in the square.


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Tardis
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 11:05
It would appear that the wires building in the Pendle Strategy is protected for manufacturing jobs (even before the new one comes into force), as each job in that situation would create 4 others outside. The Tesco development also does not provide the type of jobs that the plan requires to suit the local skills of the population, i.e. too menial.

Also the building is outside the "town centre" location stipulated by their planning.

Apparently there is a need for some retail in the town, but this development would exceed that requirement because of the Sainsbury's in Colne. Thus it would point at a very short term viability.

According to the stats elsewhere, when a superstore opens, for every job it creates, it also destroys at least 2 others elsewhere.

I have also heard about Tesco paying money into a 106 account for the Council. Is that technically a bribe? I do not have a figure, however, but Pendle's own website recognises 106 agreements.

Unconfirmed so far is that Tesco may actually use the site as a regional delivery hub to serve the other stores in the area. That would surely mean a rather larger increase in heavy traffic?


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Callunna
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 11:41


quote:
Tardis wrote:

I have also heard about Tesco paying money into a 106 account for the Council. Is that technically a bribe? I do not have a figure, however, but Pendle's own website recognises 106 agreements.



It might be helpful to some people to know what a 106 agreement is (I certainly hadn't a clue!) 

http://www.idea.gov.uk/idk/core/page.do?pageId=71631
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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 12:09
The type of jobs that the plan requires to suit the local skills of the population, i.e. too menial.?
Without wishing to insult the Barlick population I can think of a good number of candidates for that kind of work. There is something else that worries me, with foreign food outlets springing up like mushrooms on a damp summer evening, viz, the new Indian Restaurant, is there a different set of rules for this non essential commodity???



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panbiker
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 12:58
Peter, the new indian restaurant  may not be an essential but it is in the retail section of town and so does not require a "differenet set of rules". After all it is only changing hands and the type of food being served. As far as I am aware, we don't have a proper sit down asian food premise in the town so the new owners must see a niche in the market worth pursuing

This is more than can be said for the present Tesco proposal which is not in the retail section of town, so as far as I can see, could only really be developed as a wharehousing facilty and even that would be borderline if all parties stick to the agreed plan for town development.

In the real world it may well depend on what sweeteners have been offered in the 106. Time will no doubt tell.


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 13:08
What happened to the other Indian down Butts?


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panbiker
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 13:25
As far as I am aware that proposal has not become operational yet. The nearest  Asian restaurant establishment to Barlick will be down at Earby or at Foulridge.


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Tardis
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 14:35
Believe it or not there is a distinction between menial retail and menial manufacturing jobs, the latter being favoured by the plan.


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Tardis
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 14:46
Not sure about the Old pigeon club status, but I think there may be an issue over the "chimney". Not entirely sure as I know some work was done, particularly on the heating system, last year.


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thomo
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 16:17
I am still not fond of the idea that in Barlick it is possible to get a meal based on what is available throughout Asia in general, but if you want a good pint or a bar snack the options are not as numerous. And how many locals work in these places? do they purchase ingredients in town? and in one case, planning was turned down on the basis that there were already many in that area, it still opened soon after. Could it be that someone is biased or having their palms crossed?


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panbiker
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 17:31


quote:
thomo wrote:
I am still not fond of the idea that in Barlick it is possible to get a meal based on what is available throughout Asia in general, but if you want a good pint or a bar snack the options are not as numerous. And how many locals work in these places? do they purchase ingredients in town? and in one case, planning was turned down on the basis that there were already many in that area, it still opened soon after. Could it be that someone is biased or having their palms crossed?


You may not be fond of the diversity of eating establishments and the ranges of international cuisine available but I can assure you that plenty of other people are. Personally I enjoy quite a range of Asian food, I'm quite partial to Thai from time to time as well as Italian and a bit of Mexican cuisine. I also enjoy my "English" grub as well as the next bloke, I don't particularly like Chinese food and don't normally do any of the many variations of deep fried chicken but I suppose it's just a matter of choice.

How many local people work in these establishments? Well I can only speak for the ones I frequent and in those I would say most of them.

As for whether they purchase all their ingredients locally you would have to ask, having said that I have never seen fields of corriander, methi or the makings of other exotic spices hanging from our local trees.

We have discussed the why's and wherefores of the demise of the pub trade in general elsewhere on the site so no point going over it again here. I must say though that most of the ingredients for the bar snacks and pub meals available in the remaining establishments still open will not have been purchased locally either. Probably delivered in a non descript white van maybe with a pubfare logo, ensuring that the steak and chips you buy in your remaining local watering hole of choice is exactly the same as what you could buy in any of the other surviving pubs the length and breadth of the country.

Finaly, there is procedure in place for objecting to any proposed planning permission and also procedure for taking the council to task if you think you have been aggrieved in any way by virtue of their actions. If you have proof of bias or bribery, surely you should say so, take them to task and pursue to a conclusion.

Now, sorry for the slight rant, and continuing the thread off topic.

 


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 18:08
Thats all right then, we are all entitled to our opinions, but if diversity is fine, why is a new major outlet such a problem?


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Big Kev
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Posted - 16/11/2011 : 19:53
Why is an Indian Restuarant diverse? The majority of the dishes will have been developed during the time the british were all over India, kicking the arses of the indigenous population.

I like a good curry and Barlick does lack a good, sit down, Indian restuarant...


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