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zednine
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Tizer
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 Posted - 20/07/2009 : 16:47
Zed, if you edit your post (click on the little icon at the top of the post) you can replace the `IMG' with `url' and then the links will be `clickable'. The image of the set of finds is rather dark - you probably know what they are but the outsider like me finds it a bit difficult to sort out!
By George III penny, do you mean bottom left in the set of finds? Is it a cartwheel penny, i.e. with the thickened rim made from 1797 onwards? If so, they were minted on the early steam presses made by James Watt for Matthew Boulton's Soho Foundry in Birmingham.
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Stanley
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Posted - 22/07/2009 : 07:10
Stanley Challenger Graham
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zednine
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Posted - 26/07/2009 : 22:12
Not found in Barlick but got these two in Yorkshire today ...............
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i163/z900guy/DSCN3033.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i163/z900guy/DSCN3032.jpg
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Posted - 27/07/2009 : 00:27
zednine
To make the URL's in your last post 'clickable', may I suggest this:
Click on the Edit icon ...... Remove all references to IMG ...... The entries should now come up in blue print and underlined.
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Posted - 11/08/2009 : 14:54
This story is on todays copy of my local newspaper
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Junk-ring-turns-treasure/article-1240693-detail/article.html
KEEN metal detector Julian Lee has discovered more treasure buried beneath the North Staffordshire soil.
The 48-year-old found a medieval silver ring dating back to the 13th Century while searching in a field.
North Staffordshire coroner Ian Smith confirmed the ring was treasure at a hearing held yesterday.
But he kept the location of the find secret to prevent people descending on the land to hunt for treasure illegally.
The ring is now being valued by experts at the British Museum, and is thought to be destined for the Potteries Museum and Art Gallery.
Mr Lee, below, from Weaver Road, Uttoxeter, told the treasure inquest that he initially dismissed the ring as junk.
He said: "At first I thought it was a washer off a spark plug and it went in my bag as a piece of junk. But later, when I rubbed the mud off it, I saw it had writing on it.
"I realised it was a small engraved ring, probably from an adult woman. By its primitive nature I guessed it was medieval."
Following the discovery in September 2007, Mr Lee informed Duncan Slarke, finds liaison officer for Staffordshire and the West Midlands at Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery.
Mr Slarke said: "The ring was sent to the medieval curators at the British Museum to look at.
"The meaning of the text – AXCHIE PRIMIS FAVSARA LEVGE PERDER – is unclear. I think it's an attempt to demonstrate sophistication with a Latin inscription, by someone who didn't know Latin. Nobody has made any sense of it."
Because the ring is more than 300 years old and made of precious metal, it was declared as treasure.
Proceeds of the sale of treasure are usually split between the finder and the landowner, although Mr Lee says he often waives the payment so his finds can go to museums.
Mr Lee, who usually goes metal detecting on a Sunday, believes the ring will be valued at between £500 and £1,000.
It is the latest of a series of finds the married father-of-two has made during the 16 years of his hobby.
Most impressive was his involvement in the discovery of the Moorlands Patera, a rare Roman artefact, in 2003.
The dish eventually sold for £100,000, with Mr Lee pocketing £12,500 for his part.
He said: "During the first six years I didn't find anything of significance, but then we moved from Yorkshire to Staffordshire where there was actually something in the ground. It's the history that I like; it's a bit like archaeology for dummies.
"By reporting things you feel you are contributing to the process of finding out the history of an area.
"Most of the time you are plodding around finding nothing but pieces of junk, but when you find something significant you get a real buzz from it.
"I've probably made about £17,000 over the years, but I do a lot of research into where I search and you need to be able to read the landscape to see where you are likely to find things.
"It's not a cheap hobby though and it needs to be done responsibly. It shouldn't be seen as a way to make money."
Mel
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Stanley
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 08:14
Mel, it's people like Mr Lee who have rescued the reputation of metal detectorists. More power to his detecting elbow.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 12/08/2009 : 12:44
In the paper there's a bit about a man who lives on the coast in Scotland who has dug up an iron bar in his garden. He wondered what it was and it has been identified as a bar used to connect together cannon balls to make them more destructive. They think it's from the 1700s and came from a ship landing troops on the coast.
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Stanley
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Posted - 13/08/2009 : 06:22
Chain and bar shot were used to increase the chance od damaging masts and rigging in a naval battle. Two balls connected together that acted like a flail.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 18/08/2009 : 16:12
I pulled a deep rooted weed out from between the stones infront of our barn and with it came a small stone ball about 3.5cms in diameter.
Any ideas what it could be?
Wendy
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Posted - 18/08/2009 : 20:33
We took something like that to the local museum and asked them. After a couple of weeks they told us it was a stone, naturally shaped. It was spherical and had a rough surface. Such natural spherical stones are not uncommon - they can be formed by erosion while sitting in a cavity in a rock in a stream for instance. But I expect some of our ancestors might have found them useful and who is to say your stone hasn't been used as a tool or a missile (sling shot)? Other folk might have some alternative ideas for your stone!
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Posted - 18/08/2009 : 21:45
This looks very smooth and round Tizer, it would be amazing if it had been formed naturally. I'll try and get a picture uploaded.
Unfortunately the old stone yard has had a covering of limestone chippings, so there is no way of telling if the ball has laid undisturbed for a couple of hundred years or if it arrived here more recently from a quarry.
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Another
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Posted - 19/08/2009 : 05:23
Could it be an animal gall stone ?
There were some pretty large stones from cows and horses in the Craven Museum at Skipton years ago. Might be worth taking it there and seeing if they could identify it.
Wouldn't it be great if it turned out to be an early cannon ball from a long forgotton War of the Roses skirmish that was fought on your land or even a Jacobite slingshot from when Charile boy was on his way back to Scotland from Derby - he is recorded as being at Stonyhurst near Clitheroe so could have popped over for tea and scones to previous incumbents of your farm !!! Nolic
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Posted - 19/08/2009 : 06:07
Windy, just seen the pic. I bet its an old large bore musket ball - they did use stones when lead had run out. Muskets were never that accurate so an exact fit to the bore was not essential as they would be wrapped in small pieces of cloth or leather. Nolic
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Stanley
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Posted - 19/08/2009 : 06:18
Another source of perfectly round stone like balls is the core of a fish eye when it has been cooked.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 19/08/2009 : 07:30
In Colne library there is an old newspaper article relating an older story of Bonnie Prince Charlie's men raiding the farms at Black Lane Ends. I'll look it out, there is a wonderful line drawing of a kilted & bonneted Scot chasing hens through a farmyard just like ours!
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