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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
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Stanley
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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 05:51
I have a request and this seemed as good a place as any. I have an old man's fancy to replace the open fire in the front room with a small cast iron stove. Any suggestions about source, make etc would be appreciated. It only needs to be a small one and I'm not bothered about it projecting into the room. I fancy a Jotul but any advice would be appreciated.


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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 08:24
http://www.uniquefireplaces.co.uk/Stoves/View-all-products.html

http://www.direct-coal.co.uk/page8.html

Comrade,

Have a look at these sites. The first from Briefield are very reasonable, the second Milligans at Burnley are more expensive but their website takes you direct to manufacturer. I'm afraid I have no recommendation. We've just repalced a gas fire with a living gas fire. Nolic 


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Tizer
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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 10:43
Stanley, do you intend to burn coal, logs or both? The manufacturers seem to say that if you want to burn only logs don't buy a multifuel, a dedicated log burner is better (they don't have a grate and ash pan, you burn the logs on top of the ash). I don't know if the converse is true, or if there even is a dedicated coal burner - the choice might be restricted to log burner and multifuel. Think about whether you want to be able to heat a kettle on the top - some have space, others not.

We've used a multifuel burner to burn logs in winter for the last 15 years but we'll probably be changing to a propane gas fire (no piped gas supply) because the gradual change in weather conditions here has made the draw very unreliable. We regularly sweep the chimney but it doesn't stop the change and some nights the stove is useless. We get still air, mist and probably an inversion layer preventing the upward movement of hot air. And no, I'm not going to try an old raincoat soaked in diesel thrown on the fire, thanks!

Nolic, I'd be interested to hear your experience with the `living gas fire'. I thought they were said to use a lot of gas compared with ordinary gas fires.


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belle
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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 11:03
Stanley.. I can get Deadly to PM you if you'd like..he fits stoves on a daily basis so can probably answer any questions.. and he might even be able to tell you what's wrong with your Tizer.


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Tizer
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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 11:13
Thanks Belle but it's a combination of the changed atmospheric conditions combined with a chimney that's too short. We live on the Somerset Levels which has always got more than its fair share of heavy mists but is getting worse. It lies like a blanket and the smoke creeps slowly out of the chimney pot and down the sides of the stack when it happens. The fire goes out completely. At other times the stove can roar away and have us backing against the walls to escapoe the heat. That's another thought for you Stanley - don't get a stove that's too big!


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Bradders
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Posted - 03/12/2011 : 11:46
Stanley ...If your chimney isn't clay lined , I think  it's compulsory  now to have a stainless flu installed ......they can be dear .


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 04/12/2011 : 04:07
Thanks for the responses. Am mulling it over. It will only need to be a small one and I have no fears about not being able to burn solid fuel because it's a wood burner, I can burn anything! I've even considered getting some plate cut and welding my own up! As for lining the flue, if anyone starts throwing regs at me I shall install it myself!

Tiz, I know your problem, flues can be funny. All I can say is that while most people will go for a taller stack to get more draught the first place I'd look is at the diameter of the throat of the pot, very often it's a choke point. Second is to consider the Baxi principle, bringing in a supply of outside air direct to the stove. If you've an undercroft under the flor or are on an outside wall this can be a solution. One thing we forget is that when we draught-proof rooms we choke the fire. Look at it this way, a fire will burn outside in any conditions with no stack.

Comrade, had a look at the Brierfield site. Interesting.....


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wendyf
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Posted - 04/12/2011 : 08:52
If you are looking for something quite basic, Machine Mart have a range of multi fuel stoves in their catalogue.
We bought ours from a place called Thoms on Railway Street in Nelson. We couldnt handle the fancy showrooms and that is a small, old fashioned sort of place.


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Stanley
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 04:27
Thanks for that Wendy. Deadly will be getting back to me....

You've got me exactly, basic! All I want is a cheap and cheerful way of burng fuel efficiently to relieve the gas bill. Plenty of dead wood lay round on my walks!


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Stanley
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 04:54


An old friend bit the dust this morning. It's taken me nine months of early morning nips to empty it so a cheap lush! Its place has been taken by a bottle of 16 year old Lagavulin.....


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Bodger
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 09:52
OK, whose got Nordic ancestry?,

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1305903/


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Tizer
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 09:59
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Stanley wrote:
Second is to consider the Baxi principle, bringing in a supply of outside air direct to the stove. If you've an undercroft under the flor or are on an outside wall this can be a solution. One thing we forget is that when we draught-proof rooms we choke the fire.
You can get a system with a fan in the top of the chimney to create and control  the updraught. Also, the manufacturers have had to develop stoves to suit the completely sealed mechanically ventilated houses such as those built to meet PassivHaus standards. They have a pipe that runs down the chimney to the stove so that air is drawn in without having trickle vents or underfloor pipes.



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Tardis
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 10:18
Black Out across the town.

Media attention too, I hear radio Lancashire were in Barlick today


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Bodger
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 13:39
Stanley, a link to Jay Leno, & his observation on machinists, or lack of.

 http://books.google.ie/books?id=adFe5-zs8ekC&pg=PA50&dq=machinists&hl=en&ei=7sfcTuCOMca1hAeZrPmsDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=machinists&f=false


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Tardis
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 15:10
Dave Guest from North West tonight spotted in town with camera, so Barlick may well be on TV tonight!

Craven Herald reporter too.

Didn't see anyone from the B&E though, although I am told they were expected.


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