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Hatepe (R.I.P.)
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Posted -  10/02/2005  :  21:12
Every man should have an allotment, hen pen and a shed to hide away from the daily troubles and strife.
The first root of new potatoes, the first boiling of broad beans and the taste of a home grown lettuce, and if you are lucky in Barlick the smell and taste of a tomato grown with love and careful attention.
(Damned things grow wild outside here in Auckland!!!)
But the ability to have a comfy old chair in the shed, away from the wife and childer, happen a small pot belly stove and the ability to brew a billy of tea, so what more does a man want????
Even bringing the pullets up to lay and the excitement of finding the first egg (These are pullets Stevie not old boiling hens!!!) and taking the egg home and saying "Look what I've got....."
That is almost Utopia in'it?????
Aye Hatepe


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Callunna
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Posted - 10/02/2005 : 21:43
Interesting etymol...etimollyogic... er, word meanings here.
"Shed" is universally accepted as being the place where men should spend most of their time. Except in Barlick and Earby, where it's known as "th 'ut".
I noticed that after living in Manc I was referring to it as a shed, but soon got back into the local way of speykin. My SO insists that the dictionary definition has a shed as a work or storage place, whereas a hut is something to be lived in.
I rest my case.


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Hatepe (R.I.P.)
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 01:47
I have just sent a reply to Callunna and it somehow disappeared, so I will try again.
There is a big difference between a shed and a hut, ask any weaver what a shed is and he or she will tell thi' it's the noisiest place in the world, and where he or she have spent most of their working life, putting cops and pirns into shuttles and trying to find the pick in the cloth.
But a shed is the working man's equivalent to the rich bloke's "Study".
Some men keep pigeons in lofts on the top of their sheds, and if they are racing from Nantes and their favourite "blue" comes in and they clock it, you can bet they are down the road to the Pigeon Club to see whether they have won owt.
Tools, and treasures are kept in sheds, men crack 'bacca in sheds, chew twist and spit on the pot belly. There is a great deal of "bloke-iness" when two or three men get together in sheds, in the Navy they would call it "swinging the lamp". Home brew is brewed (and drunk) in sheds away from the beady eye of the missus.
Hens are kept in huts, and if you are a bit of a rambler, huts are on mountains for a night's stay.
So you are quite right Callunna, sheds are a man's domain.
Aye Hatepe



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Stanley
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 02:15
The etymology doesn't help much. Shed appears to be a corruption of shade and was often a simple open ended structure. Hut is very similar to Frankish, Old High German and Scandinavian Hutta which equates to hide. So, in terms of the end purpose, hut may be nearer the meaning. Shed, as used in Rochdale to describe an old motor, is pejorative and that may be why I like it for the decrepit sheds you see at times. Both equally correct but perhaps sheds are the poor relations.


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Callunna
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 09:32
All I was saying was that everywhere else on the planet the building Hatepe refers to is called a shed, whereas the very same thing is called a hut in West Craven.
Perhaps it was indeed to distinguish between the weaving shed and the place where someone could have their 'study' when when they weren't working. "I'm off to t'shed/th 'ut" makes it clear where they were going.
And to distinguish between th 'ut and where chicklers are kept, we refer to a henpen rather than henhut.
Perhaps it's because in places as compact and self-contained as Barlick, the old words and meanings last longer - Stanley's ref. to 'hutta' being a case in point.


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marilyn
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Posted - 12/02/2005 : 11:46
When I had chickens they occupied the CHOOKSHED. We have a small GARDENSHED in the back yard housing the mower, garden tools, the ladder and fertiliser. We have a GARAGE that houses my car. Hubby has a workbench along the back wall of the GARAGE....but he doesn't hang about there much for fear I will ask him to do something.


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wrinklie
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Posted - 30/08/2005 : 13:53

Not exactly OT but in weaving terms, the shed was the triangular gap in the warp which the weft passed through by virtue of a shuttle.

The shed was formed by the highering and lowering of the healds which the warp was fed through.

Sucking the weft through a hole in the shuttle was known as "kissing the shuttle"



Edited by - wrinklie on 30 August 2005 22:43:40


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Cathy
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Posted - 31/08/2005 : 11:24

I replied to this topic 5minutes ago, but nothing has come up on the home page.??  I'll try again.

I don't know about allotments or hen pens etc but to me a shed is that structure in the back yard where a girl puts all those things that she doesn't want or doesn't know what to do with.  When it gets too full, she just rings up 'a little man' and he comes and takes it all away..........

Very civilised........




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Callunna
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Posted - 31/08/2005 : 11:53
I got a rather nice man (not unknown to OGFB regulars!) to take down the hut at my last address and erect it in my new garden, and a mighty fine job he did too. Thank you so much, Doctor Doolots

Stevie - did my old hut go up OK for your chicklers?

I'm now about to give the newly erected hut a nice coat of green paint as it's such a lovely warm dry day here today. If I leave it till weekend, it might be raining. I've told my clients I'm in a meeting, which is sort of true, really.

It's 25C in my office at the mo, and perfect weather outside. As the hut has just been put up, it hasn't yet filled up with all those things o' purpose which cannot possibly be thrown away yet have no immediate use. This means I can sit in there with a good book, a glass of summat nice, and chill.Go to Top of Page

Stanley
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Posted - 31/08/2005 : 12:40
What made me laugh was the fact that Wicton had re-erected it round the back of the farmhouse........  Tough luck.........


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Callunna
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Posted - 31/08/2005 : 16:50
Aye - if summat ain't nailed down, someone's bound to nick it, even if it means getting their forklift truck on the job.


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Stanley
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Posted - 01/09/2005 : 07:48
I was thinking about this topic as I was cutting the rope grooves in the flywheel yesterday.  Cuts like that in cast iron are mucky because they make a lot of CI dust and it gets everywhere, including up your nose.  I was sneezing all night and had a bad attack of black snot......   I've a lot on my mind at the moment and a couple of hours in the shed concentrating on something else can do wonders for your frame of mind.  Alright, in strict terms my workshop isn't a shed because it's a room in the house bbut in essence it's still a shed so perhaps we're making a different definition of 'shed'.  It's a place where people escape and enter another world, usually for relaxation or respite.


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GAK
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Posted - 15/08/2009 : 13:59
What happened to Callunna? I enjoyed reading her posts.
GAK


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tripps
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Posted - 15/08/2009 : 14:43
She's here.

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Stanley
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Posted - 16/08/2009 : 06:37
It's perhaps significant that with people feeling the economic pressure and noting the rising problem of food imports the subject of allotments and their availability is cropping up more and more in the media. I have no evidence but suspect that apart from the quality and quantity of the produce it is  a social movement based largely on cooperation. I wonder whether we'll see this concept cropping up more in other areas like village shops, pubs and filling stations?


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Tizer
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Posted - 16/08/2009 : 12:20
When a wer a lad, we didn't say `allotments', we said "Am goin t' plots".


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