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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
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Stanley
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 06:05
The withdrawal of £30million funding from the Book Trust which invests in providing books for children is cultural vandalism and the government should be ashamed of itself.


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catgate
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 11:37


quote:
Stanley wrote:
The withdrawal of £30million funding from the Book Trust which invests in providing books for children is cultural vandalism and the government should be ashamed of itself.

How much of that £30 m was actually spent on books and how much on Honorariums , Administration, Expenses and Travel?

What sort of books were they providing? 

If the books they provided were educational why was these not being provided by the schools?

If they were recreational books should not the parents be supplying them (if they have any interest in the well being of their offspring)?

 


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frankwilk
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 14:17
http://www.booktrust.org.uk/show/feature/Home/Jobs-at-Booktrust

Interesting web site for the book trust !!!!!



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catgate
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Posted - 26/12/2010 : 14:43


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frankwilk wrote:
http://www.booktrust.org.uk/show/feature/Home/Jobs-at-Booktrust

Interesting web site for the book trust !!!!!

Looks like a lot of arty farty bovine excrement disguised as something emmanating from a desciple of "B B C Baron Birt".

It shows where the money goes.


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Stanley
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Posted - 27/12/2010 : 06:07
You lot are full of heart. Interesting that you picked the part of the site that supports your argument. Any strategy that gets books into the hands of children at a formative age and encourages them to start the reading habit is good. Unless of course you don't believe that books can entertain and educate. I gave myself a treat ysterday. While reading Nye Bevan I saw that he reckoned the A J Cronin's book 'The Citadel' was based on a miner's welfare scheme in Tredegar, th fore-runner of the NHS in many ways. I love Cronin's books so I sat down with the Citadel and read it. Wonderful story. Why not take the blinkers off and try it? If you aren't grabbed by that there are plenty more to go at. So many books, so little time!

What caught my eye yesterday was how many customers the Cathedral of  choice had yesterday. How could anyone be short of food after the spending spree of the last few days?


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frankwilk
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Posted - 27/12/2010 : 08:50
Santa brought me Michael Ashcroft's book George Cross Heroes and I also got The History of Steam by Thomas Crump. I also purchased two copies of  " Nothing Impossible " for our son's
So Stanley you will be pleased to know we can also read.
£30 million taken from Tax Payers to hand out to Authors and Publishers along with the Quango cost's.  Is that value for money ?? If you want a book go to the Library, or get your Parents or Grandparents to go for you.



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frankwilk
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Posted - 27/12/2010 : 08:56
" Interesting that you picked the part of the site that supports your argument "
Interesting that the offical website has an article that supports the arguement !!!!



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Anni
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Posted - 27/12/2010 : 10:39
Who was it who used to sing "Anything you can do I can do better"?

For goodness sake - please give it a rest! 

Edited by - Anni on 27/12/2010 10:40:34 AM


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Bodger
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Posted - 27/12/2010 : 14:37
Maybe i was lucky, one of my earliest recollections is my mother lying beside me and reading me to sleep and using her finger as a guide to each word, i went to school at four + , and could read well beyond " the cat sat on the mat", all my life i have read and enjoyed doing so, anybody remember "The Childrens Newspaper" ?, my mother had a friend who every celerbration gave me a book, and i kept them up to my marriage, unfortunatley our daughters did'nt have the same respect for books !!,, We had no library access, but mt my father had a book case full of encyclopeidias, Harmsworth History of the World, plus technical books on radio, electricityand nature, so iwas lucy to enjoy these as well as , Hotspur, Champion, etc.


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catgate
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Posted - 27/12/2010 : 19:32


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....anybody remember "The Childrens Newspaper" ?,

Yes indeed. My father used to pick up each issue on his way home from work. I also remember the 10 volumes of Arthur Mee's "Childrens Encyclopedia" which father bought for us (although my sisters never read them).

The odd thing is that I can not remember being "encouraged" to read them, but I do remember sitting on the loo engrossed in reading them and then getting chastised when I arrived back downstair..."You'll finish up with a permanant red ring round you bottom with doing that !! " I almost read ther print off their pages.

 What sticks in my mind most, I think, was the fact that nearly all the illustrations were line drawings of a very high standard. Some of the illustrations of machinery were works of art in themselves.


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Steve B
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Posted - 28/12/2010 : 01:04
Mum used to read to me all the time, as well, when I was a toddler.  Beano and Beezer, among other comics.  So I also was reading before I went to school.  Then I discovered the William books and the Swallows and Amazons books.  I think there must have been a track to the childrens room in the library on Fern Lea from me constantly going back for them.  I still read huge amounts and have turned one bedroom into my own library, primarily of heroic fantasy for fiction and historic subjects related to my reenacting.


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Stanley
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Posted - 28/12/2010 : 04:49
Yup, I remember Arthur Mee and the Children's Newspaper but I never liked it. I was more interested in the Wizard, Hotspur and Rover. My mother got me started reading before I started school age 4, she used to encourage me to read the adverts on the hoardings and made sure I always had a book to look at even before I read. I can't remember it being a problem at school. The book that fascinated me most was The Water Babies and I can remember spending hours with old school prizes she had. John Bunyan, Mrs Marriott, Mrs Gaskell, stuff like that. I stll remember some of them, 'Christie's Old Organ' was one, Incredibly old fashioned even then but of course I didn't know that at the time, they were just books.

Steve look for a book called 'The Gun Founders of England' by Charles ffoulkes, I think it might be right up your street as far as re-enactments are concerned.


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Posted - 28/12/2010 : 08:39
I remember the childrens newspaper which I thought very boring. What  I did enjoy was the weekly Knowledge that was built into a full encyclopedia. That too had very good quality drawings in and every now andf again you got a good quaslity folder that you put all the magazines in using carpet twine and hey presto a new volume. Nolic


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panbiker
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Posted - 28/12/2010 : 12:08
We collected all of he Knowledge periodicals and built them into a full collection of albums also Colin. Dad had them on order from Heatons newsagents. As you say, full colour and lots of features that were contemporary with the time they were produced in. I think I still have some of them up in the loft. I used to get excited and pour over and over the pages when they featured anything about the space race and technology. I think to some degreee this is why I prefer reading technical and practical books rather than fiction.

I was also another school starter at 4 years and well remember going to see Mrs Hindle at Gisburn Road school with my mum, she asked me to read from a Janet and John book which I could and to write my name after which I was told I could start on the following Monday.


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Bodger
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Posted - 28/12/2010 : 15:24
Do'nt forget the Eagle comic, if my memory is correct it also had exploded drawings of technial things in the centre pages.

As an aside here in Ireland parents have to supply text books & exercise books (copy books here) , in earlier days the text books were handed down or sold on, but with progress, sylybusses ? change every year so parents still have to fork out, and the best bit is that some of the books have spaces in to write the solution, so after use they are no good unless pencil and an eraser are used,  the annual cost per annum varies but in infants about £100 per child for books, the there are folders, writing/drwg tools , uniforms, bags, school transport, etc. this more than doubles the cost, and as the child grows so do the costs, at 15 yrs. books can cost £450/500, but it is called free education !!


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