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Callunna
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Posted -  12/07/2011  :  09:11
Tesco are considering opening a store in Barnoldswick.

They claim it will create 175 jobs and keep shoppers in the town, as well as saving local firm L&P Springs.

There are 2 exhibitions taking place this Friday and Saturday for people to gain more information.

Views, anyone? 


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thomo
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 13:01
These are my last two posts from another topic:-

An invite to view the proposals came today. I don't think they are taking over an existing building, it will be new, and on land that is ready but doing nothing. Thinking about it all, how many grocers are there in town now,? very few. There has been talk of L&P Springs moving their operation to Barnsley, this would not be good. Given more thought as opposed to "gut reaction" maybe the idea is not all bad. Grocery choice in Barlick has gone downhill, the shops being replaced by a plethora of takeaways , arty shops and charity shops. If some form of progress is halted, lethargy can often ensue.

I have hardly ever used Tesco stores. so I cannot judge their quality, but this I do know, many local people go to Asda, Morrisons etc, if they didnt have to go out of town, surely some good may follow. Settle has Booths, and the town centre still trades much as it ever did. Skipton has Tesco, Morrisons and a street market on four days of the week, and the centre is alive. Colne has Asda and now Sainsbury's, plus a thriving market, the town centre lives on. Clitheroe is much the same. Its all very well having a pleasant town centre surrounded by cafes and bric a brac, but having to travel for more choice at reasonable prices is the price that many have to pay. There is also the possibility of creating jobs and maybe even saving some at an existing factory. It should not be dismissed out of hand.


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Callunna
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 13:24
Apologies if I've duplicated another topic elsewhere, but I think an issue as important as this should have its own heading so that new visitors can easily find it. (I tend not to read the general chat topics because many seem full of carping, slagging off, arguments and  BS. Sorry.)

I'm keeping an open mind about this. I'll listen to what Tesco has to say, along with the views and opinions of Barlick residents, before I make my mind up. 


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panbiker
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 13:38
Makes sense Heather, much like we did when there was a proposal for a supermarket on the Carlson Site. It will  make it easier to follow.

My initial thoughts are that if it goes ahead and you ever forget anything when you shop you will be able to pick it up at the new Spar which is already under construction at Crow Nest!

I will also take a look at the proposals and then post my hopefully better informed two-pennorth or maybe four-pennorth here.


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tripps
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 14:19
Here's what I wrote on the other thread -
We had a similar situation here some years ago.  Nearest supermarket then was ten miles away. I couldn't see the Tesco being successful, and am still ribbed now for saying so.  It killed the local High street, but I think they deserved it.  As a by product, my son came out of university debt free due to what he earned there before and during his education.  Couldn't do that at the local greengrocers.

I live in a town quite similar in size to Barlick, and would add that we have a small Morrisons (formerly Safeway) n the centre which  seems to do OK, so your Coop should survive.  I would be concerned for small greengrocers and burtchers - none survived here.  Depends on how many can walk to the shops.  The free parking at Tesco is a major factor. 




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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 15:31
Only one greengrocer, cheap but not top quality. Three butchers, we use the one at Foulridge, bus there, walk back when fine. 9 takeaways, 4 chippies, lots of hairdressers and so it goes on. The essential shops are far outnumbered by the less essential ones.


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Sunray10
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 22:52
Tesco left Nelson as there wasn't enough trade, so lets hope they can do better in Barlick, if they do open a store there.Huh


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 13/07/2011 : 11:39
The bulk of the population of Nelson has access to its own infrastucture with Morrisons providing all else. That used to be a good town centre, I was at college there for five years 55 to 61 and there was a good and diverse range of shops, not so now.


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thomo
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Posted - 13/07/2011 : 13:42
Yesterday, a woman was talking to my Wife at work, She had been miss-directed to the old Boundary Mill and commented on the dreadful smell in that area. This brought to mind something that Cally posted some time ago about not being happy going to Asda because of this. There are no abattoirs on Eastwood Bottoms. Walking along the towpath yesterday and looking down at the proposed site, a new store would improve that area, any alternative may not. With the wind from the south, there might be a whiff of hot iron, or from the north, cutting coolant, neither of which are as bad as an abattoir.


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pluggy
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Posted - 13/07/2011 : 18:57
For a brief period the supermarket on Church street was a small Tesco in one of its many incarnations.   (the one after Hillards if my memory serves).  Most people go outside town (or shop on-line and get it delivered from outside town) , other than the Co-op I can't see it affecting very much in the town as its so far from the centre.   The takeaways, hairdressers and charity shops that make up many of Barlicks shops have little to fear.  It may indeed do some good by keeping more people in town for their shopping. 


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pluggy
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Posted - 13/07/2011 : 19:13
Hmmm, since I'm on the board of trustees of Tesco's exhibition venue, I might just do some advertising for my business - they can hardly kick me out..............   Wink


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Posted - 13/07/2011 : 21:55


quote:
pluggy wrote:
For a brief period the supermarket on Church street was a small Tesco in one of its many incarnations.

It still is Tesco really. Tesco own the One-Stop chain...


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Stanley
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Posted - 14/07/2011 : 05:25
I suspect Pluggy could be right about the Town Centre. Nelson centre isn't really a fair comparison, I think the problem there was more to do with lousy planning than competition.


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Tardis
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Posted - 14/07/2011 : 15:04
I understand that the Town Council planning committee are putting an agenda on their itinary for next month's meeting.

Tesco has not submitted any plans (as far as I'm aware they don't have to as it is not a change of zoning or use (in law))

It may just be a discussion, and the public can go too


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Callunna
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Posted - 16/07/2011 : 00:50
Forgot to go to the exhibition today, so will go tomorrow (Saturday 16 July) between 10am and 2pm. 

I'm slowly forming an opinion but will wait a bit longer before adding my two-pennorth (well with inflation it'll be more like two-quiddorth).


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 16/07/2011 : 09:43
The first thing that became clear upon seeing the presentation was just how misleading the telegraphs article was in relation to the proposed site, It is in fact on the land on which Wellhouse mill now stands with the main access on Wellhouse Rd near to where Gissing and Lonsdales office is. The layout appears to be quite attractive with planting around the visible perimeters, I can find no fault with either the location or projected design and I believe it will "lift" that entire area, far better this than to see the old buildings fall into disrepair and become an eyesore. The operation of the store it seems has already been discussed at length in regards to the threat to other retail outlets in the town, ie, there will not be a cafe. One of the points I made whilst talking with the representatives from Tesco, was about locally sourced goods, this is apparently on the agenda. Having given the matter of this new development much thought, I cannot see any viable argument against it, from a personal point of view, if I like what is intended, then it will do away with the need to go out of town a couple of times a week, we can reduce to just the one car. Think about the number of townsfolk who may have the same option, and the older people who do not have the means to travel at will and are restricted to a certain extent by what is currently available. Other retailers may have to sharpen their act a bit, no bad thing I believe.


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