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Stanley
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Posted -  11/01/2009  :  06:04
New Year, new topic. If you want to see the old one do a forum search for same title but 2008.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 20/01/2009 : 17:46
Lets get this clear

No One has complained about treatment, but just think if we could make it run better how Much Better  and faster the Treatment would be. MRSA  C Diff are just two of the things that could be cleaned up, that's not Contractors to Blame it's Management of the Trust
Don't forget this organisation employs more People than the Chinese Army !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ps and it's Not Free



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Stanley
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Posted - 21/01/2009 : 07:27
Frank, my post wasn't directed at you but the point still holds. Of course it isn't free but if you are old, ill or in trouble you have access and it doesn't cost you any money. Yes, it's as big as the Chinese Army and I dare say that isn't perfect either. No organisation is but they can still do good. I notice that I got in first, there is talk about a 'constitution' for the NHS. Beware, when politicians start to codify a concept they have a habit of introducing small print like setting new rules about people having to show they have looked after themselves....

I've realised this morning that listening to the financial news is like going for a night out with Max Mosley, pure masochism. In case you haven't noticed every indicator is going south and all out nationalisation of the banks is on the cards.It's a spiral of decline at the moment and I can see no good news anywhere. Whjat a bloody mess! The most depressing thing is that the people who got us into this mess are the only ones with the power to do anything about it. It may be time to get under the duvet.


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portia
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Posted - 21/01/2009 : 09:49
I'm not an economist - my economics is pure 'man in the pub'  stuff. But it seems to me that a lot of it's a pure confidence thing. The more you think and say it's going to be bad, the worse it will be.  And the media seem to take great delight in hyping it up to be as bad as possible.
There was a commentator last week (can't remember whether it was in the Observer or on Radio 4) pointing out some small signs of the beginning of a recovery. This was followed by a rush of people castigating her for what she said.  The point was, the things she was pointing to were facts but it was almost as if showing a little optimism wasn't allowed.
I'm afraid I'm an ostrich. I can't change what's happening so I choose not to get depressed by listening to all the doom & gloom merchants.


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belle
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Posted - 21/01/2009 : 09:59
Nice to see a new face Portia!

What grabbed my attention, yesterday and today, was the opening comment to this post...Stanley I don't often take umbridge with you but I feel it is unfair, out of context, and provocative, given the subject, to have Harry's misdeameanour (i used to be able to spell!) as the permenant opener...we debated that at some length and without the balance of other view points you are in danger of imposing your opinion over a topic that reflected many differing opinions.  Can we go back  to the original opener to this topic please?


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HerbSG
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Posted - 21/01/2009 : 16:54
Inclined to agree with Belle, a heading should be just that, and opinions reflected as comments.


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Stanley
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Posted - 21/01/2009 : 16:57
Belle, I haven't the faintest idea what I am being castigated for!

Portia, you're right about the confidence factor and it is very powerful. Once people lose confidence in an investment they vote with their feet. That's how bank runs start. Problem is that the markets value a stock by the share price so you get the stupid situation where something that has exactly the same value today as yesterday in real terms is held by the market to be greatly reduced in value. If an investor sees that and takes his or her money out the share price becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I like keeping abreast but I agree that the doom and gloom is getting a bit too prevalent.

 Ahhh.... I've just realised what you mean Belle. You're right, I shall remove it. Mind you, it's still my opinion...


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wendyf
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Posted - 21/01/2009 : 21:18
Just seen a local news item following up children from "slum" areas of Leeds photographed in the 1950's by French photographer Marc Rimbaud. The images shown were wonderfully evocative of that era in Leeds, but what I found most moving was the memory of one man photographed as a child playing cricket in a half demolished street. His Grandma and Aunties had scrubbed their house from top to bottom before moving out, proudly leaving it spotless for the demolition men the next day.

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Stanley
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 07:24
Wendy. Look for a book called Poverty and Public Health by G C McGonigle and J Kirby published by Gollanz in 1936 . Very rare book and on first sight doesn't seem to be anything to do with your post but if you can find it you will realise it is pertinent. Dr McGonocle was Medical Officer for Stockton on Tees and he realised that a big council slum clearance project to demolish half of a large slum and move the inhabitants out into new housing on the edge of the toewn was a unique opportunity to do a comparative study on poverty and health. This was the first time that the connection between the two existed. Surprisingly, the people whose heath suffered were the ones in the new housing. Well worth finding. By the way, he was encouraged in the study by Harold MacMillan who was the MP for Stockton after WW1.

Some cookie decided that Obama wasn't President because of the mistakes made by the Chief Justice and him at the inauguration. Just to make sure he took it again yesterday.....  Now they are asking whether a Bible was used.....


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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 07:38
Replyin to Wendy put my mind in inter-war studies mode, in my laszt year at Lancaster I spent a year working on the period and this is where, thanks to my mentor Steve Constantine, I came across McGonicle and much more including Charlie Webster. My point is that if I hadn't been made redundant I would never have gone to Lancaster. We see the unemployment figure topping 2million in real terms and heading towards 3million. Now is the time to start a compaign to subsidise fee Further Education for the unemployed and put some effort into persuading them to use their enforced leisure to get skills and qualifications. Remember 'Love on the Dole' by Greenwood, he would never have had a career as a playwright and author if he hadn't been made redundant....


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Big Kev
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 07:52
British Gas dropping their gas prices, by 10%, on February 19th, lets hope everyone else does the same (but by a lot more).....


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frankwilk
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 07:53
Sometimes Redundancy is the release that people need, I know quite a few people who saw it as an escape from a non interesting job,and then went on to succeed in something very different.
The only observation is that you do need a Brain and Courage to make it work !!!!!!

Edited by - frankwilk on 22/01/2009 07:55:08 AM



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belle
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 08:57
Everyone has a brain, but some have never been encouraged to find their gifts and abilities, which we all have.  In my art class I put the whole focus on drawing out (no pun intended) the abilities that are already there, rather than overstamping someone with my way of drawing, that leaves them able to go on and grow in their confidence, rather than struggling, six months down the line, to remember how i did something. People who teach like that are just on an ego trip.

Sometmes it takes encouragement as well as courage to change.

Stanley, who could forget 'love on the dole?' Great film. 


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Stanley
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 09:03
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. The important thing is to make the opportunitied available and make sure that the targets know about it. You see, now we've mentioned it on here there will be an announcement. I'm beginning to think that OG has more clout than we thought...... Come to think, send a link to this topic to your MP...


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Stanley
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 09:11
By the way, does anyone know why two fire engines were in attendance at the dentist's on Park Avenue at dinnertime yesterday? Lot's of very blackened firemen so it looks as though it was a fire.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 22/01/2009 : 09:48
Someone burning the bill, so annoyed at the cost of basic dental treatment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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