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WIDDUP ENTRIES IN SCG INDEX TO 26 June 2004
1753 Widdop. Amminadab, paid LT in 1753 of 1/-/ No address given.
1822 Baines directory for 1822 notes John Widdup as timber merchant of Salterforth.
1841 census. Salterforth Lane. John Widdup, head, 50, trader? Dealer. Ellen, wife, 45. Hannah, 20. Henry, 20. Sutcliffe, 15, sawyer. Mary, 15. Dinah, 13. Martha, 11. Richard, 10. Ellen, 8. Mielia (Amelia?) 5. James, 3. William, 3. MacFarlane, 2months.
1851 census Sutcliffe Widdup of East Marton, 30, Innkeeper and farmer of 18 acres employing one man. (Probably the Cross Keys pub) Mary Ann, wife, 23, born Thornton in Craven. John, son, 3, born Salterforth. Nelson, son, 1 year, born Salterforth.
1851 census Cross Keys Inn, Barnoldswick. Henry Widdup, head, 31(?), Victualler and farmer of 5 acres. Elizabeth, wife, 28. Sarah Wilson, mother in law, 68. Ellen Widdup, 17, servant(?).
1859. James Widdup noted as an elector of Barnoldswick in 1859. Address given as Salterforth.
1861 census Levi Widdup of Orchard Cottages, head, 38, coal merchant. Nancy, wife, 34, dressmaker. John W, 7, scholar. Hartley, 1 year,. [In AWOL, page 43, there is a story about Clayton Slater and his brother being fined £5 with costs for assaulting Levi Widdup after his donkey was seen grazing on the Slater family grave.]
1861 census James Widdup, Salterforth, 43 years, Agent in worsted, silk and cotton cloth making.
1871 census John William Widdup of Orchard Cottages (Orchard Street) 17 years, Clog, boot and shoe maker. Lived with his father Levi Widdup who is described as a coal merchant.
1871 census John Widdup of Canal Cottage, Salterforth (near the Canal tavern, now the Anchor inn, 56 years old, coal merchant. Born in Salterforth.
1871 census (?) John Widdup of East Marton, 46, Wood dealer and farmer of 46 acres. Employer of 4 men. Born Salterforth.
1881 James Slater left the partnership with his brothers in Clough Mill and went into partnership with MacFarlane Widdup. They ran 144 looms at Clough. This partnership didn’t last long and James Slater carried on alone. In 1889 he moved to Salterforth Mill with 216 looms.
1887 Barrett directory notes John Widdup as coal merchant, Station Yard, Barnoldswick.
1887 Barrett directory for 1887 notes John Widdup as farmer of Long Ing and Barnsey. Barrett for 1896 notes him as farmer of Barnsey.
1896. Barrett’s directory for 1896 notes John William Widdup as Secretary for the North Craven Land and Building Society. Address is 22 Newtown. Also noted as Boot and shoe maker and Wagonette proprietor at the same address. The same details were recorded in the list of candidates for the 1890 Local Board election. Same John William noted in CHSCMB as supplying coal to the CHSC in 1891. Barrett for 1902 records him as Boot and Shoe maker, coal dealer and cab proprietor of 24 Newtown.
1896. Barrett directory for 1896 notes Henry Widdup as being at Lower Barnsey.
1896. CHSCMB (Calf Hall Shed Company Minute Books) 22/10/1896. Note that John Widdup, coal merchant had applied for space for 150/200 looms and a taping machine in the small shed at the SW corner of Wellhouse Shed. At the meeting on 18/11/1896 the architect Mr Atkinson reported that John Widdup was satisfied with the arrangements being made for him.
1902 Barrett directory notes John Widdup as farmer of ‘Paddock’ (Parrock?)
1902 Barrett directory for 1892 notes that John Widdup was coal merchant of Station Yard and his house was at Long Ing. In the same year he gave notice that he was removing his looms from Wellhouse Mill. This would be the move into Moss Shed which was built in 1903.
1915/16 and 1920/21 Worrall’s directory for these years notes John Widdup and Sons as tenants of Barnsey Shed. 1912 M/c Royal Exchange directory notes them as being in Moss Shed with 432 looms. Representative on the exchange was E. Widdup. In Worrall for 1939 J Widdup and sons were noted as being tenants in both Moss and Wellhouse with 1,116 looms
1932 82/HD/03. Page 11. Harold Duxbury talks about rescuing a carter called Widdup from the stables in Butts during the flood of July 11 1932.
1947. 78/AC/10. Page 5. Ernie Roberts talks about the firms weaving in Moss Shed in 1947. J Widdup and Sons (Widdup Brothers) had two units, 864 looms.
1959 78/AC/06 in LTP. Page 11. Ernie Roberts talks about weaving for Widdup Brothers at Moss Shed. In 78/AC/10. Page 1ff. He talks about getting his first tackling job at Moss in 1947. He was there for 11 years so this gives a close down date of 1959.
1959/60. Widdup Brothers sold Moss Shed to Tom Clarke for £25,000. Tom was the founder of Silentnight.
1960 Sometime around 1960 a small consortium bought Whitewell Dairies at Accrington and later sold it to Associated Dairies. One of the partners was a Widdup, I have an idea his forename was Jack .
1965 Frank Widdup died march 29th 1965. He was a council member 1924 to 1936.
1979 Mary Widdup, who had been a weaver at Bancroft for many years went to weave at County Brook Mill.
Harry Widdup. 78/AC/06. Page 7. Ernie Roberts talks about caddying for Harry Widdup at Gill Golf club and getting into trouble for rattling change in his pocket.
John Widdup. One of the Widdups who ran Moss Shed. See Ernie Roberts transcripts; 78/AC/08, 10 and 14 for references.
Sidney Widdup is mentioned by Newton Pickles as being a Barnoldswick scrap dealer. See LTP transcript 78/AG/07. Page 9. In 78?ag/09, page 6 NP says that Sidney Widdup scrapped the Bankfield engine after WW2.
SCG/26 June 2004 Research/04
Stanley Challenger Graham
Barlick View stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk
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Sue
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Posted - 26/06/2004 : 11:20
This is terrific Stan, many thanks. The early 1800 Widdups are on my spreadsheet ( on this site) They all seem to have originated from one family, John Widdup and Martha Edmundson, of Rochdale, married in St Chads Church in 1785. By sheer coincidence this is now my home town
Sue
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Stanley
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 04:35
Sue, I came back to check that you had seen this topic after your response to the CH article on the Barlick flood.
The index is in better shape than ever. Doc landed with a big cabinet the other day and after measuring up I realised that if I lined the drwaers and put dividers in I could make it into a really good index cabinet. I did a bit of bush carpentry yesterday and I now have enough space to keep me going for yonks. Thanks Doc!
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 10:54
Thanks Stan. Yes I had seen it, but had forgotten about it. Perhaps I should look at my own notes !!!!!. Mind you this family had so many John Widdups. This time I will print this off and put it with my spread sheet and 50 page genealogical report that I have written Sue
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Stanley
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 11:01
Er, why not put them onto the site?
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 15:13
I did, but it is quite complex in that there are a number of living descendants and I hadn't asked their permission, and it is not easy to eliminate them all or contact them all as they are not in the same generation if my family tree programme. I have well over 200 names. Doc converted my spreadsheet of census returns fo me and put that on the site ( The Widdups of barnoldswick and Rochdale) but I had to pull the report off until further notice. Meanwhile the report of the descendants grow by the week, but NO SIGN of my grandfather, Wilfred, or great granfather John Roberts Widdup. Although I have tracked down all of his siblings and most of their families in Australia, New Zealand , Canada and America. I had hoped this site would turn something up. Does any one know of Smith Widdup?. This is one brother that appeared to remain in the area. He was in the merchant navy in the 1890s, his wife was Maria and there is a memorial to the family including her name in St Mary the Gill Church. Surely a brother would know what happened to his sibling??? Sue
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Stanley
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 05:58
Sue sent me this pic of the Anchor Inn. I'll leave her to insert the description.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 11/03/2005 : 08:01
Thanks Stan , I am working on the bigger file
The people in the picture are
William Widdup( born 1844) outsde the Anchor Inn doorway, with his wife, Elizabeth and staff. The small boy on the left is Ernest Jones Widdup born 1877..
The line from Martha Edmundson ( circa 1767) and John Widdup ( circa 1760)is as follows
First generatiuon William Widdup ( !785) = Sarah Whittaker
Second Generation James Widdup (1817-1899 )= Bella Hartley(1818-1893)
Third generation William Widdup (1845-) + Elizabeth King ( 1841)
Fouth Generation Ernest Jones Widdup (1877-)
Sue
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fwiddup
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Posted - 15/03/2005 : 00:03
Hi Sue,
Thats all correct. The small boy on the left is actually my grandad. He married one Annie Redman and they had 2 children, William b.1919 (my dad) and Ivy. At the time they were living in Bracewell Street Barlick. My dad died in 1993 but Ivy is still living in Barlick and is quite active in the town and well known.
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Stanley
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Posted - 15/03/2005 : 04:30
Thanks for those two responses. You can't beat having file info on the pics. It's in the archive.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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bookiesrunner
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Posted - 26/04/2008 : 22:52
I know this is a longshot as the post started so long ago but I know Sue mentioned her Widdup family connections. I saw an obit in The Western Morning News for a Charles Widdup who was the London editor for the paper.He was born in Portsmouth in 1913 as his father was in the Royal Navy so I wondered whether there was a connection.
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Posted - 26/04/2008 : 23:04
Thanks for the thought, but I don't know of a connection there, although it is not impossible, believe me. A number of Widdups joined the Navy in the mid 1890s. I may just try to do the odd bit of further research there
Sue
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Rattler
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Posted - 24/08/2010 : 14:18
Brilliant Site happened across it whilst researching family tree and the name Widdup came up so i have had a look see.
Dont know as yet if there is any linkage as Our Widdups come from over the border in Yorkshire Barnsley / Grimthorpe area then moved to Huddersfield.
I am trying to find my Mother brother Vincent Baily Widdup who was in the Royal Navy.
We have quite a lot of info which I am happy to share just get in touch
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Sue
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Posted - 25/08/2010 : 19:09
Hi Rattler
Hi I have so much info on the Widdups, I may have your family. Can you put up abit of a summary here and I will try to connect it to mine
Sue
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Rattler
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Posted - 26/08/2010 : 07:48
Will sort later thanks for getting back
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Sue
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Posted - 26/08/2010 : 09:19
I have emailed you my email address if it is easier to send it to me that way. I can still put an update on this site for future reference
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