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Doc
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Posted -  05/04/2004  :  23:47
I'm researching the history of Prospect Farm, Moorgate Road, Barnoldswick. Situated on Weets Hill.

If anyones got any information, pictures, memories or experiences of the place then please could you send me a private message with the details.

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Stanley
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Posted - 23/05/2011 : 05:55
Good Maz. That tallies with the spreadsheet which a kind soul I have forgotten gave me. Handy because you can search using any term. Mind you I missed Ernest but it was early in the morning!


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marilyn
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Posted - 28/05/2011 : 05:17
What sort of spread sheet is it you have? what years etc would it cover? And what sort of info?
(sounds like a handy thing)


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wendyf
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Posted - 28/05/2011 : 07:57
Cant help adding a bit to this topic Maz, because I think you may have misread Doc's census information. He has the Harrisons at Prospect in the 1871 and 1881, but not in the 1891 census. He does have a family called  Bradley there in 1891 though!


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Posted - 28/05/2011 : 08:55
Ah...yes...must have misread. Thanks for that.
I have had a quick look and cannot find the Bradley Family anywhere in 1891 though. I have tried omitting the husband, then omitting the wife, then only putting the younger kiddies in. can't seem to locate them. Will try again tomorrow when I have more time (dinner in oven at present).
My 1891 Census says Whittakers at Prospect. I can't see there would be room there for two families...and if there were...why are they not listed on my Census page?
Perhaps Stanley could consult his spreadsheet?

Edited by - marilyn on 28/05/2011 08:59:50 AM


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Posted - 29/05/2011 : 05:41
Maz. Had another search and included the strays. Nothing bur Whittakers at Prospect in 1891.


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Posted - 29/05/2011 : 05:45
Maz. Remind us of who you are looking for.


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Posted - 29/05/2011 : 08:09
At the beginning of this topic, Doc listed the Bradleys being occupants of Prospect house in the 1891 Census. (which does not tally with me discovering the Whittakers there at that time.)
Wendyf pointed that out to me in her last post (above).
I cannot find that Bradley family anywhere in the 1891 Census. I've tried several variations of looking for the Bradley family listed on Page 1 of this topic...eg omitting the father, omitting the mother.
I was just wondering if you had any info on your magic spreadsheet?
(they are of no importance to me really, I just wondered where they went....as they could not have been at Prospect House in 1891.)

Is this getting confusing?     Frown


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Posted - 30/05/2011 : 06:55
Bradley, 1881 and 1891 census

Bradley    Agnes H.                31    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Rd. 33 Railway Terr. Cotts.
Bradley    Alice                21    Barnoldswick    Chapel St.
Bradley    Annie    13    Barnoldswick    Village           
Bradley    Arthur    8            18    Barnoldswick    Commercial St. 3
Bradley    Christopher    4    Barnoldswick    Newtown    14    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 36
Bradley    Christopher    14    Barnoldswick    Newtown    24    Barnoldswick    Chapel St.
Bradley    Christopher    16    Barnoldswick    Village           
Bradley    Christopher    49    Barnoldswick    Newtown           
Bradley    Christopher E.                26    Barnoldswick    Commercial St. 5
Bradley    Christopher R.                3    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 40
Bradley    Clara                1    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 40
Bradley    Elizabeth                8    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 36
Bradley    Elizabeth    6    Barnoldswick    Village    16    Barnoldswick    Commercial St. 3
Bradley    Elizabeth    51    Marton    East Marton    61    Marton    East Marton village
Bradley    Elizabeth A.    20    Barnoldswick    Newtown    30    Barnoldswick    Rook St. 9
Bradley    Ellen                26    Barnoldswick    Commercial St. 5
Bradley    Ellen    19    Barnoldswick    Newtown    29    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 40
Bradley    Henry    25    Barnoldswick    Newtown    35    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 36
Bradley    Isabella                4    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 40
Bradley    James W.    11    Barnoldswick    Village           
Bradley    John    33    Thornton        42    Thornton    Skipton Road
Bradley    John    50    Marton    East Marton    60    Marton    East Marton village
Bradley    John    57    Barnoldswick    Newtown           
Bradley    John Lambert                2    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 36
Bradley    Johnny    10    Barnoldswick    Newtown    20    Barnoldswick    Rook St. 9
Bradley    Lucetta    15    Barnoldswick    Newtown    25    Barnoldswick    Rook St. 9
Bradley    Margaret Ann    1    Barnoldswick    Newtown    11    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 40
Bradley    Martha                6    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 40
Bradley    Martha    50    Barnoldswick    Newtown    60    Barnoldswick    Rook St. 9
Bradley    Martha A.    2    Barnoldswick    Newtown    12    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 36
Bradley    Martha J.    7    Barnoldswick    Newtown    17    Barnoldswick    Rook St. 9
Bradley    Mary    15    Barnoldswick    Newtown           
Bradley    Mary    37    Marton               
Bradley    Mary A.    3    Marton               
Bradley    Mary Alice    9mo    Barnoldswick    Newtown    10    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 36
Bradley    Mary J.    25    Barnoldswick    Newtown    33    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 36
Bradley    Nancy                8    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 40
Bradley    Nancy    27    Barnoldswick    Newtown           
Bradley    Nancy    69    Thornton               
Bradley    Robert    44    Barnoldswick    Village           
Bradley    Robert        Barnoldswick        67    Earby    Gladstone Terrace
Bradley    Robinson    22    Barnoldswick    Newtown    32    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 40
Bradley    Sarah    43    Barnoldswick    Village    50    Barnoldswick    Commercial St. 3
Bradley    Sarah J.                2    Barnoldswick    Commercial St. 5
Bradley    Watson    23    Barnoldswick    Village    33    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Rd. 33 Railway Terr. Cotts.
Bradley    William                4    Barnoldswick    Rain Hall Road 36
Bradley    William    30    Thornton        39    Thornton    Skipton Road
Bradley    William    50    Marton               
Bradley    William    72    Barnoldswick    Newtown           

 Lancs and Yorks strays 1891
Bradley    Charles    West Marton    44    Blackburn    LAN    Whalley Old Rd. 48
Bradley    Edward A.    Earby    5    Carlton in Skipton    YKS    West Rd. 24
Bradley    Ellen    Earby    63    Burnley    LAN    Newcastle St. 1
Bradley    Emma Kendall    Thornton    12    Manningham    YKS    Ingleby St. 142
Bradley    Frank    Thornton    10    Ovenden    YKS    Ovenden Wood
Bradley    George    Thornton    24    Aislaby in Pickering    YKS    Cliff House
Bradley    George    Marton    51    Elton    LAN    Tottington Rd. 127
Bradley    Hannah    Thornton    38    Leeds    YKS    New Row 8
Bradley    Hannah    West Marton    53    North Meols    LAN    Rawlinson Rd. 2
Bradley    Henry    Barnoldswick    29    Barrowford Booth    LAN    New Road Side
Bradley    Henry    Marton    63    Bury    LAN    Rose Bank 1
Bradley    Ida Kendall    Thornton    4    Manningham    YKS    Ingleby St. 142
Bradley    James    Thornton    40    Ovenden    YKS    Ovenden Wood
Bradley    Jane Ann    Thornton    20    Old Malton    YKS    Lascelles Lane
Bradley    John    Thornton in Craven    45    Gargrave    YKS    South St.
Bradley    John    Marton    52    Musbury    LAN    Spring Terrace
Bradley    John William    Thornton    14    Ovenden    YKS    Ovenden Wood
Bradley    Margaret    West Marton    15    Poulton Barre & Torrisholme    LAN    Cheapside 37
Bradley    Mary    Thornton    21    Warley    YKS    Hoyle
Bradley    Nancy    Earby    56    Bowling    YKS    Hall Lane 231
Bradley    Peter    Thornton    13    Ovenden    YKS    Ovenden Wood
Bradley    Thomas    Thornton    50    Bury    LAN    Topping St. 47
Bradley    Thomas    West Marton    59    Salford    LAN    Regent Rd. 75
Bradley    William    Thornton    19    Allerston    YKS    Manor House
Bradley    William    Earby    44    Burnley    LAN    Nicholas St. 18
Bradley    William    Thornton    70    Carlton in Skipton    YKS    Vicars Row 14


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Posted - 30/05/2011 : 06:59
Maz. Formatting goes to pot with 1881/1891. The way to read it is if there are two ages, these relate to 81/91. If there is one age and no gap after name it is 1881. If there is a long gap after the name, the entry is 1891. The strays are the location of Barlick natives in 1891.

Hope that helps?


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Posted - 31/05/2011 : 05:58
I sent Moh the 1881/91 spreadsheet yesterday. That'll keep her studying for a while! If anyone else want it, just drop a mail to stanley@barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk


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wendyf
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Posted - 01/06/2011 : 10:39
Problem solved Maz.....The Bradleys were at Prospect House in the 1901 census not the 1891. I just looked on Ancestry in the library.


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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 06:04
Well done Wendy! Looks as though that's a complete answer. I've just had a look in me archive and I don't think I have ever done an index search for Bradley entries. I shall address that this morning after Jack and I have inspected Barlick.


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wendyf
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 07:58
Always look for the simplest solution first! 


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Stanley
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 08:49
I've posted the Bradley index under a separate topic. Re. Ann Bradley and Christopher Bracewell, a long story, see the Bracewell Articles in Stanley's View. I have an idea that Ann Bradley was reared by her grandmother in Thotnton who may have been a baker. I suspect she first came to Christopher's attention delivering bread to the Manor House when he lived there. It's a good story, well worth looking it up.

I've brought it up. 'Christopher Bracewell and his families' More about Ann Bradley in there.


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wendyf
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 11:50
Oh no, problem not solved after all! This is from Stanley's Bradley Index:

Craven Herald 25/03/1932. Report of the death of Henry Bradley (75) of 26 Park Avenue. Born 1857 in Rainhall Road he was an overlooker at Coates Mill and in 1890 started farming Prospect Farm. He was there for 22 years until 1912 when he retired and moved back into the town. He leaves a widow, four sons and five daughters.


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