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Tizer
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Posted -  20/01/2008  :  17:15
Warship, two funnels, Sydney harbour, 1913

 Warship, four funnels, Sydney harbour 1913

Postcard, 1913, warships in Sydney harbour, Australia

The bottom picture is from an Australian postcard which features in an article by Philip J. Chapman on page 32 of "Picture Postcard Monthly" magazine (January 2008 - lots of interesting poctcards shown in each issue!). I have kept the image small to avoid upsetting Mr Chapman. I have enlarged the two warships from the postcard image. Mr Chapman wonders whether the ships are Australian Navy or Royal Navy. The card is dated 17th November 1913 and was sent from "Wal" in Australia to "Pearl" in Wymondham, Norfolk, UK. The view is of Sydney harbour with the ships at anchor.

I have put these pictures on the OGFB site for general interest but also because someone might be able to provide more details of the ships. I started a new thread rather than disrupting the objectives of thomo's thread!

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frankwilk
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Posted - 21/01/2008 : 13:17
" a heart of oak "  nothing wrong with one of those ( well better than a head).  I can still clearly remember the band of the Royal Marines striking up Hearts of Oak on our passing out parade.

Steady Boys Steady   and then wait for the big drum before, by the eft quick march., and off we went on our way.
That was my passing out,  then No1 son was Royal Marines to your Duties, No 2 son well his passing out was at RAF Halton. I don't think they spent much time on Drill at Halton. In fact when we watch the videos  our ex marine always asks his brother you sure you didn't train for Postman Pats job at Halton,
but I digress back to warships.



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frankwilk
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Posted - 21/01/2008 : 13:18
Sorry posted it twice
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Edited by - frankwilk on 21/01/2008 1:19:28 PM



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Posted - 21/01/2008 : 14:03
Now you're talking Frank. Favourite military band is Band of HM Royal Marines (Commandos). Give me a Kenneth Alford march and I'm happy: Colonel Bogey; The Army of the Nile; The Thin Red Line; The Voice of the Guns; The Middy; The Standard of St. George. Claim to play in a brass band, Repiano Cornet (I'm really awful) but my fellow brasstards won't play Alford. 'Oooh! Not another march! There's too many flats and we haven't got a soppie. It's not the Empire now, you know'. Jelly backs. It's a brass band, for heaven's sake. Now I'm really off track...


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frankwilk
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Posted - 21/01/2008 : 19:09
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softsuvner
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Posted - 21/01/2008 : 22:25
Frank

In answer to your picture query, I reckon the picture was taken at the mouth of the Tyne, looking towards South Shields. I haven't been there since I was four, but I have a couple of pictures of Lawson Batty tugs at anchor in the Tyne, with that ugly building on the skyline, so that's my guess. 

RR

I did wonder if the records were inaccurate. But he only joined in January 1916 (as a Boy class 2) and didn't sign a full 12 year engagement until May 1917, so I doubt that he would have been wisked away to Jutland.
As usual, I couldn't find the original reference to the Powerful when I looked again. But I have found a fairly credible looking reference which gives the year when she was set up as a Training Ship as 1913, have a look yourself :

 http://www.plymouthdata.info/Royal%20Naval%20Training%20Ships.htm

Looks like she could well have been in commission until 1912 at least.

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Posted - 22/01/2008 : 04:10
Thanks Malcolm. Interesting site. So we are there, or there abouts on HMS Powerful. There are a lot of contradictory dates and information flying around. It's never really possible to be sure, even with primary sources. Can you believe the number of changes re assigning of name Impregnable? Thought it was bad luck to change the name of a vessel?

Edited by - Ribble Rouser on 22/01/2008 08:17:42


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frankwilk
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Posted - 22/01/2008 : 04:12
Close enough, but it would be looking from South Shields towards the block of Council Flats at Tynemouth. In the 1950s I so much wanted to live in those flats, when a boy I used to play out with lived in one.



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Tizer
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Posted - 22/01/2008 : 10:21
RR, thanks for identifying HMS Powerful - it must be as close as anyone will get. I emailed the postcard magazine suggesting they take a look at the thread. I will contact them about the Powerful again later.

Frank, now the location is identified as South Shields, what ship is it? Or is that still a test for us?  

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frankwilk
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Posted - 22/01/2008 : 11:34
The ship is HMS Fearless leaving the Tyne her sister  ship I posted for Doc is the Intrepid. I served on Fearless first commission, and doc on Intrepid



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softsuvner
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Posted - 22/01/2008 : 11:51
Oops!

Sorry to be rude about your flats Frank. Mind you what an outlook over the Tyne in the 1950s, I wonder how many lads living there ended up going to sea?

Incidentally, one thing I found out about HMS Powerful is that she is immortalised on film. The National Film Archive holds some sequences, taken in 1900, showing her bringing back to Portsmouth the "heroes of Ladysmith", including one scene with Victory in the background (when she was still afloat in the harbour). This may well appear if anybody makes a documentary on the Boer War.

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frankwilk
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Posted - 22/01/2008 : 13:31
Sorry to be rude about your flats Frank. Mind you what an outlook over the Tyne in the 1950s, I wonder how many lads living there ended up going to sea?

LOL  I only used to play out with the boy who lived in the flats. I used to stay with my nan in High Howden. My uncle used to take me down by the flats early in the morning to watch the olsen line over night ship from Norway. Leda was one, I used to think it was a massive ship at that time. With my Uncle being a sonar operator on HMS Kelly, and my Uncle Bill working at Wallsend Slipway. Two Uncles working for Parsons at Heaton, and a half brother a pattern maker at Swan Hunters no wonder I went to Sea. Oh and my grandfather being a boiler maker at Clenlands yard. I spent most summer holidays watching ships, and most morning either at the Tyne bar, or North Shields fish market. For a change I used to walk across to Jarrow under the Tunnel !!!!!!

Off topic but lets you know where I come from with ships



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Posted - 22/01/2008 : 17:37
I only visited the Tyne once, when we stayed with a relative at Whitley Bay when I was four. I was hugely impressed by the bow of a wartime wreck that could still be seen from the promenade in those days.
I think I got my insight into the naval mind early on, when I walked to school past a signpost that showed 2 miles to the Headquarters of the C-In-C Home Fleet (later HMS Warrior). Trouble was, the nearest bit of sea to us was Southend, fifty miles away!

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Posted - 24/01/2008 : 15:11
CheersAhoy There Shipmates!  Is this the right forum for retired sea-monsters to pull
                    up a bollard, swing the lamp and tell sea dits? '

                   
'I Couldn't Give A T**s For The Jimmy Or The Joss
                     Or The Killik Of The Working Party
                     I'm Going Ashore At Half Past Four
                     And My Name Is Jack Me Hearty!!'

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frankwilk
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Posted - 24/01/2008 : 20:00
Sounds like a seaman to me, but I'm sure you will be made more than welcome



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Posted - 25/01/2008 : 06:33
Post away Harry.  It's an open site.


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