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Stanley
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I wanted to post about British Leyland but couldn't find an approprate topic so I've opened this one.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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stanley at barnoldswick.freeserve.co.uk
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Posted - 03/05/2009 : 06:51
Bad driving? One possibility is that many boxes for pig carrying are double deckers (Houghtons made double deckers for cows as well) If he had dropped the lower deck somewhere else and left the top deck full he would have been extremely top heavy.
Moh, I loved the names they gave the different Leyland types. Comet, Bison and Octopus for the eight leggers. Maudsley had one called the Mogul and the AEC six wheeler was called the Mandator. Such a lot of history there! AEC stood for the Associated Equipment Company because it was originally the arm of the London and General Omnibus Company, the forerunner of London Transport, which made all their buses. ERF was the initials of E R Foden who broke away from the family firm Foden because he thought he could make a better wagon.
By the way, John Ingoe has almost finished the restoration of his Scammel double drive Crusader tractor with the Detroit Diesel and he tells me he has bought a Scarab and is doing that next. Ted will remember the Scarabs, the railways used them to replace horses. Three wheel tractor with automatic trailer coupling, ideal for local deliveries.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 03/05/2009 : 16:37
Although I was working with them for around 30 years I can't call myself an expert on them. They were fast taking over from horses when I started in 1941. At Barlick the horse and dray did the town work whilst Scammell Scarabs were loaned from Skipton for use on the explosives to and from Gledstones Hall and tobacco to and from, I think, Dotcliffe. In my experience, They were a most efficient means of moving trailers in, and around goods yards and, providing the loads were not too heavy, on containers. At Sutton in Ashfield they were the ideal vehicle for dealing with Metal Box traffic (mainly empty cans in containers) although the most of it was dealt with in their private sidings. There was a vast difference in the performance between drivers, some being like lightening in their handling whilst others appeared somewhat ponderous.
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Stanley
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Posted - 04/05/2009 : 07:04
John's Crusader two years ago before the full refurb. I shall have to get Doc to take me over there and get some pics of the finished job and the new Scarab.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 05/05/2009 : 00:47
I think that cattle truck had a lot to do wtih my love of trucks now, I spent my school holidays in that cab with dad and fly and marmalade butties.........
Margaret Porter
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Stanley
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Posted - 05/05/2009 : 08:01
Yup, she is cab-happy too. What a way to rear a daughter, it's probably illegal now.
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 16:38
For the car nuts... I keep gorgetting to say that I saw a Nissan Figaro in the Co-op car park last week. Right hand drive but all writing on instruments etc. in Japanese. A rare import?
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:11
I think all Japanese cars made for their home market are right hand drive? Someone near here always has a couple on the drive, maybe dealing. What's the attraction of them?
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 21:05
It seems that they are regarded as quite "cool" by some ...
They have that retro styling, but with all the whistles and bells of "modern " cars....including air conditioning.
Oh , and they don't loose money ........YET!
PS Japanese home market cars are all right hand drive , and that has led to a healthy import trade in second hand Mazda MX5s.
A real success , having been intentionally styled on the Lotus Elan and produced in huge numbers , on the back of good performance and economy, and more importantly really good reliability.
Edited by - Bradders on 10/05/2009 9:13:18 PM
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Stanley
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 09:18
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Figaro
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 11/05/2009 : 10:20
I was wondering what you chaps was on about, but the link explains it all.
I've seen these things about and wondered what they are.Reminds me a bit of a larger version of a German car from the fifties called something like Gugomobile (?).
Retro Chic eh? - what an idea for those with more money than sense!
I wonder when some builder is going to fit one of these new "town houses" (terraced to you and me) with a retro-chic Khasi in the yard!
Malcolm
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Stanley
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Posted - 12/05/2009 : 07:38
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goggomobil
I remember the Goggomobile. Can't say I ever saw the Dart but the sit up and beg one was quite common. About the same time as Heinkel and Messerschmit were keeping going by building small cars. They were of course prohibited from making fighters!
Ever come across the Haflinger? Possibly the best cross country vehicle of all time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haflinger
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 12/05/2009 : 08:08
My Mum had a Scootacar back in the early sixties. It was great fun and had handlebars and a "T" shaped seat that the passenger sat astride. It was made by the Hunslet Engineering Company in Leeds. I seem to remember that ours was never the same after all four of us returned from a party in it.
Wendy
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Stanley
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Posted - 12/05/2009 : 10:18
What an image.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scootacar
Stanley Challenger Graham
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Posted - 12/05/2009 : 10:23
BMW were in that market too, with the Isetta........some of which were built in UK.
My friend Nev is completely restoring one as we speak.
It's a rare four wheeled "bubble car" (not the long chassis four seater) .
He recently ordered some spare parts from Germany (it's amazing what's still available) and on the list was an exhaust pipe rubber mounting strap.
I can't remember how it was properly spelt ,but when read out ,it sounded like.....
AUSPUFFGUMMIHANGER....brillant !
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Posted - 12/05/2009 : 14:38
I remember the Haflinger, they always used to do well in an annual cross-country event televised by the BBC, held on army land. I think it was organised by an Army Auto Club and featured other vehicles of the time like the Austin Gypsy. This was way before the current crop of 4 X 4's were thought of - anybody else remember the event?
Amazing the variety of devices that were foisted on the UK public under the guise of bubble cars or "micro- cars". I suspect the BMW four wheeler fell foul of our car tax laws. There was also some funny thing about driving licences. I seem to remember that you could drive a 3 -wheeler on a motorbike licence as long as it had no reverse gear.
Malcolm
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