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Stanley
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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:26
NEW VERSION TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MEMBERS WITH SLOW CONNECTIONS TO CONNECT.

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Stanley Challenger Graham




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frankwilk
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Posted - 01/02/2011 : 11:32
The Robin lives around the corner from me !!!



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HerbSG
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Posted - 01/02/2011 : 12:41
Does he have a vote Frank?


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Another
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Posted - 01/02/2011 : 13:25
He does Herb but he's the wrong colour. Maybe wait for the jays in summer!! Nolic


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moh
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Posted - 01/02/2011 : 13:54
What caught my attention was the ridiculous amounts spent yesterday on footballers - no sign of a recession there. Whilst people are prepared to pay the inflated ticket prices, giving the clubs money, this will go on.


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catgate
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Posted - 01/02/2011 : 14:00
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23919419-ministers-blast-spending-watchdog-for-splashing-out-pound-900-a-chair-with-public-cash.do


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Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart


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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 07:01
Heard the NAO report on bad purchasing in NH Trusts. They reckon a saving of half a billion a year is a conservative estimate of what could be saved. Er, forgive me asking but why wasn't a standard purchasing list adjudicated by a separate committee part of the general admin for all hospitals? Seems like basic budget control to me or is there something I have missed?


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frankwilk
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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 08:26
Nothing missed Stanley, Budget control in the NHS is Missing .



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belle
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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 11:02
With you  on that one Moh, in a world like ours it is appalling that anyone is paid so much for playing a game..supply and demand..the Tories again!


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HerbSG
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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 11:22
Surely the public are the fools when it comes to pay scales for athletes and artists, if we continue to buy tickets for games and concerts at exhorbitant prices, the "wages" will continue to climb.  We are to blame.


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frankwilk
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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 12:14
50000 every week at Old Trafford paying around £50 a seat very foolish people. What happened to the recession ??



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thomo
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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 12:27
I am possibly at a disadvantage when it comes to football as not only do I have little knowledge of the game, I have a passionate hatred of it. The air in here can turn quite "blue" at times given the amount of media coverage, and now we have one of these overpaid posers living on our patch. The hatred stems from childhood when I was marched off to "the match" every saturday afternoon when I would much rather be doing something that interested me, this all came to an abrupt end in 1947 with the purchase of a new bike which at the appropriate time would see me miles distant from said match. However it must be pointed out that the footballers here at that time played for the sake of it and not for great financial reward and saturday was when it all happened. Now of course it is played almost 24/7 at some place or other and I often wonder how many working hours are lost each year due to the "beautiful game". In the current global economic climate, I find it hard to come to turns with the fact that many of those who are working to rectify the situation are paid far less than footballers, and that a club that is in massive financial debt can still pay millions for a player! Every single day there are those who put their lives on the line for the good of others, often for little reward or no reward at all save the prestige of knowing that what they do may make a difference. I have no doubt that football will continue to be just what it has become, unless of course the public as Herb says wake up and decide that enough is enough and withdraw support. Beware "Low flying pigs"!!!!!


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Stanley
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 05:41
Thirty years ago I interviewed George Forrester Singleton (Founded G F Singleton, still one of the major commercial estate agents in Lancashire) and he told me about a meeting in the front room of his family home in Balckburn which led to the formation of a football league in the area. This was the late 19th century. The motivation of the founders was to promote leisure, exercise and a safety valve for the workers in the local mills on 60 hours a week. No commercial motive, supported by subscription and of course a stunning success.

 It seems to me that apart from the increasingly commercial aspect the game developed (and I suspect was tacitly encouraged) as an outlet for aggression. A bit like bread and circuses in Ancient Rome. Add purely commercial interests and competition developed from being simply a matter of local pride and prestige into a hard commercial activity ruled by the market and the opportunity for profit. An allegory of an increasingly competitive world.As such it is now on an entirely different course than that envisaged by the founders in GF's front room. It holds no attractions for me.

Watching developments in the Middle East. Reminds me of the backlash against hard line Communism in Eastern Europe. If that precedent is truly comparable we could be looking at a sea-change. Question is who will emerge in control. Whatever happens the diplomatic skills of the western powers who rely on the ME for cheap energy are going to be taxed to the limit.There are going to be re-adjustments in Egypt, Yemen and Jordan at the very least.

We live in interesting times. What are the repercussions going to be on energy prices and the industrial supply chain? How will this affect the long-term arrangement to ship in LPG from the area and 'solve' our energy security needs in the UK? How will all this affect the ConDem 'recovery' plan?


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TOM PHILLIPS
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 07:59
Footballs a funny old game,in the 1930s when people were starving the grounds were packed out every saturday...


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frankwilk
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 08:29
Tom
My Grandfather left the Shipyards of the North East in 1912 to play Professional Football for Brighton & Hove Albion. He also played for Blackpool and Leyton Orient.



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catgate
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 13:47
This drew my attention.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8290469/How-BBC-warmists-abuse-the-science.html

The waters run very deep and are exceptionally muddy but the overall reason for this disgusting sham is obvious.


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