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Posted -  14/11/2010  :  06:41
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Stanley Challenger Graham




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Tizer
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Posted - 18/12/2011 : 16:41
Belle, it's a link to the BBC web page for the programme he mentions, `The People's Post' because it's about mail coaches. I put a link to the series on another OG page in the last couple of days. The link works for me, it's a normal web page.


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belle
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Posted - 18/12/2011 : 23:43
Think we are talking about different links Tizer, this is page 8 of a book.


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Stanley
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Posted - 19/12/2011 : 03:39
One thing I found out many years ago when reading mail coaches up was that contrary to what I had expected the horses were often worn down and ready for the knacker's yard. Many were blind.


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Whyperion
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Posted - 19/12/2011 : 12:32
Where did you read that Stanley? I suppose it makes sense I presume they were previously ploughing horses or similar ?   

General goods transport in Mail Coach times I understand were donkey or ass trains  (panniers slung over and animals in pairs wide and around a dozen or more long ) over and along the old bridalways and drovers roads.


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Stanley
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Posted - 20/12/2011 : 05:13
Whippy, I've never found the reference again. See Transport in Barlick articles on Stanley's View for lots about packhorses etc.

Have you noticed the new book of the week about etymology on R4 at 09:45 every morning this week?

The old horses used by the mail coach proprietors were broken down hunters and carriage horses. Heavy horses would have been too slow.


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Bradders
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Posted - 22/12/2011 : 00:29
Mother is not often prone to "relapsing into dialect"...Ha !
But every now and then.......
.......this evening she mentioned (of  the government ) that it was about time they ..

"got  t'band in't nick ".....


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Stanley
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Posted - 22/12/2011 : 04:20
Yup. If the driving string wasn't engaged in the groove on the rim of your spinning wheel you couldn't get anything done.


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Bodger
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Posted - 22/12/2011 : 09:29
Not reallly dialect but " first footing",  New years Eve, a dark haired man to be the first to enter the house with tokens of coal & food,

Is it still done ?


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Bradders
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Posted - 22/12/2011 : 11:17
It was in Dundee in the late 70's.......


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belle
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Posted - 22/12/2011 : 11:34
I'd like to think so Bodge, have many happy memories of it.


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Tizer
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Posted - 22/12/2011 : 16:42
It's still done by my in-laws in their 80s. Father-in-law chucked out in the cold by mother-in-law but restored with whisky afterwards (she's a Scot, so it's important to her and she'll be pushing him out in a wheelchair if necessary!).


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Posted - 22/12/2011 : 16:46


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Not reallly dialect but " first footing",  New years Eve, a dark haired man to be the first to enter the house with tokens of coal & food,

Is it still done ?

It's a thing that can't be avoided at present in many parts of the UK.


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Bodger
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Posted - 22/12/2011 : 17:19
Glad to hear that it still is part ot tradition. our daughters partner of 14 years thought we were mad years ago when we expelled him from the house with a piece of christmas cake and a lump of coal and told him to come ine after midnight, he now accepts it, but there is a funny side to it, in rural Ireland it customary to fire a shot gun  at the change of  year, Tom does this, but the first year he did it we had no phone afterwards, he fired the gun straight through the wire


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belle
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 00:28
You are meant to say somehting to the person who comes in  but no one could ever remember the words right..causing much hilarity..I still don't know what they are?


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Bradders
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Posted - 23/12/2011 : 01:05
Ah , but you can't generate your own good luck , if you stage manage the First Foot......
I remember a street in Dundee , where the process went on for weeks , with random visits , involving a dram or two ......

Wonder if it worked ...!


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