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thomo
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Khaki in colour and sombre in content. "Cravens Part in the Great War", there will not have been many households in Barlick and what was then a much larger Craven Area, that did not have at least one copy of this book. In my immediate Family there would have been at least four and I still have two of them, albeit that one is with my son on Anglesey. Over the years I have seen them at jumble sales, in second hand shops and in piles of rubbish for disposal, even left behind when a house has been vacated. They will have turned up all over the place, I have come across them in Wales, the Isle of Wight and Hampshire, the two that I have belonged to my Father and Maternal Grandfather.
Many years ago I went through one of them from cover to cover noting those from Barlick who had given their lives in the service of King and Country, my notes are long gone so I am going to do it again, a few pages at a time, but this time I will include other local places within an approximate seven mile radius, Gisburn, Foulridge, Earby and so on. I will post my findings on here with the name, address and a precis of other details, as some are quite extensive, each name is to have the page number for my reference so that if anyone wants further information, I can soon find it. In a good number of cases there is a photograph, these I will copy and post in groups of ten at suitable intervals. In the book there are 391 pages so I will use a few abreviations hopefully all self explanatory, ie, KIA:- Killed in Action. MPD:- Missing presumed Dead. DOW:- Died as a result of Wounds, and one that is all too frequent, DFD:- Died from Disease or Illness.
One Man was responsible for the existance of these books and that was Mr, Walter Morrison Esq, JP of Malham Tarn who put forward the idea of the book and defrayed the entire cost.
There is quite a bit about the war itself up to page 50, including the Rohilla Tradgedy, then comes the dreadful list of those who did not come home, and so it is that on page 57 we find the first of Barlicks Sons, and is as follows:-
2nd Lieut Harry Thornton Pickles, 3rd Bn Duke of Wellington's (West Riding) Regiment (SR) second son of Mr Stephen Pickles JP, CC, Of Raysgill Barnoldswick KIA 26th April 1916 aged 26. P57.
In these first ten pages the extent of family loss is made very clear for it was in the Village of Carleton nr Skipton that this comes up:-
P53, Lieut. Anthony E.K. Slingsby, 1/6th Duke of Wellington's (WR) Regiment, Son of Mr and Mrs J A Slingsby Carla Beck Carleton. KIA France 14th July 1915. Aged 26.
P57, Captain Arthur Morris Slingsby, MC 56th Punjabi Rifles, 2nd son of Mr and Mrs J A Slingsby KIA 8th March 1916 in Mesopotamia. Aged 30.
P58. Lieut. Stephen Slingsby of HMS Defence, 4th son of Mr and Mrs J A Slingsby. KIA in North Sea June 1916. Aged 24.
This out of a total of five sons all serving.
Lothersdale is the next local Village with on P62. Lieut Alec Wilson, 1st Herefordshire Regiment, Son of Mr and Mrs F J Wilson JP of Lothersdale. KIA 26th March 1917 in Egypt.
P54, Lieut. The Hon, C. A. Lister Royal Marines, Hood Battalion, Only surviving son and heir of Lord Ribblesdale of Gisburne Park DOW 28th August 1915. Elder Brother killed in 1904 in Somaliland.
Greystones, Gisburn. Lieut. George Proctor, Lancs Fusiliers, only son of Mr and Mrs Thomas Proctor. KIA 7th April 1918 aged 24. P70.
Marton is on P73, Which Marton is not clear, 2nd Lieut, Joseph Bryan Bushby South Staffs Regiment, son of Mr and Mrs Joseph Bushby, Schoolhouse Farm Marton, DOW, 4th October 1918 aged 26.
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Callunna
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 16:28
The thing that strikes me most about this research is that although many of the Barnoldswick soldiers lived in Barlick and their parents lived in Barlick, their place of birth was elsewhere.
I think it's fairly obvious why: the influx of cotton mill workers around the turn of the century? |
thomo
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 17:04
When you look at some of the places they came from, it becomes even more understandable, I mean, who would choose Accrington over Barlick???
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 17:14
I'm just printing out copies of my notes for tomorrow so that everyone will know who I have already found and where they are. I will bring some crib sheets to fill in if we find any additions.
Meet in the car park 1.00pm - 1.30pm. Anyone coming in a car please use the car park and not the area by the churh entrance. I tend to avoid this area as it is easier for older relatives who are visiting to park there.
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thomo
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 17:46
We will be there Ian, camera is charged and ready with two gigs of space. May the sun shine upon us, and Himself upon our endeavours.
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Callunna
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 19:18
Will be there at 1300 - unless it's pouring down, in which case I might kaffle out  |
thomo
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 09:10
Good morning "A" Team, rain is looking a bit unlikely at present, cool perhaps but it is November after all. I am now into the "R"s on my second scan of this magnificent database, there are quite a few that have no basic details whatsoever, just a name, but occasionally there is a single news item and this can lead to Barlick again. Its time consuming but I believe very worthwhile if after all we have a clearer picture of Who, Where, When and Why. and afterwards we will be able to see which Barlick Streets and families were the worst affected, what proportion succumbed to illness, who is on the memorial, who is not and maybe who shouldn't be, although I regard that personally as being petty, they all deserve recognition somewhere. See you all later.
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 09:52
It's looking like a very good day for it weather wise. Should be reasonably dry underfoot and the absence of rain will be a bonus.
For general information, I have swept most of the undenominational apart from the section above the lower car park. The churchyard is a different matter and may well require the bulk of the effort. Most of the ones I know about in the churchyard are in the area above the church as this was the section that was being used at the time. I only have one possible in a family plot which I have mentioned in an earlier post. All the rest are CWG and easily identified.There may well be more in family plots yet undiscovered
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 17:20
Well done "A" team!!!! It may have been a bit like looking for smoke in a fog but we achieved a great deal. Now we know where Anker W is, under a piece of grass that looks like any other, but hopefully that will change. Not only that, but before all of those who gave their all slip unnoticed into the uncertain future, we are hopefully going to ensure that their sacrifice and memory will have a new look and be brought into the 21st Century. There are little snippets that bring these brave souls to life again, stuff that is not on memorials, they were at one time civilians, and they had a life much like any of us today. Today went well, much was learned, and will be recorded for the future. Thanks to Ian, Heather, Andy and Gordon, now back to research.
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Callunna
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 17:22
What a fantastic afternoon - good weather, good company, good cause.
We had great success identifying additional graves - I'll leave it to Ian or Peter to update with the correct facts.
We also discussed a little project which I've a feeling will take up a lot of spare time in the future but which should be quite enjoyable and useful. |
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 19:25
I would like to thank Heather, Andy, Peter and Gordon for their help today with our search of the cemetery and churchyard. I have collated the results of the search and we managed to discover 17 more individuals who made the ultimate sacrifice. All the names are listed below. Where no further information is available other than name it means that I have not been able to find them recorded in the CPGW data for the First World War or they are casualties of the Second World War. It could also be that they are commemorated on a family stone but not actually interred there. There are 13 from WWI and 4 from WWII If we add these to the six I found earlier in the week and include Wilfred who's resting place has now been identified. We now have and extra 24 individuals who will be commemorated this year and onward into the future. We may in time be able to have a CWGC headstone errected for Wilfred, time will tell. I will forward the pictures I took of the plot to Chris and we will see what happens. A.E McCann Joseph Hargreaves - 06/05/1942 Pte Harry Holdsworth - Royal Fusiliers - K.I.A. 25/9/17 Signaller Thomas Skinner - Duke of Wellingtons Regiment Pte H. R Green - East Yorkshire Regiment R.H Berry J. Rushton Pte W. Parker - Durham Light Infantry Pte Herbert Pickering - Royal Scots Regiment Herbert Shires - K.I.A. Wilfred Shires - K.I.A. Pte James Wilson - 6th East Lancs K.I.A. 9/8/15 Dardenelles George Thomas - East Lancs 17/2/15 France Norman Birch Patefield - POW North Africa 17/8/42 Gunner Lapedge Monks - Royal Field Artilery Arthur Robinson - POW 11/3/45 James Hudson - 6/6/17 (buried at Etaples)
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thomo
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 20:13
The following match that list, as follows:-
Divisional Sign/Service Insignia: 49th (West Riding) Division
Main CPGW Record
Surname: SKINNER
Forename(s): Thomas
Place of Birth: Blackburn, Lancashire
Residence: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Service No: 265741
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment)
Battalion/Unit: 1/6th Battalion
Division: 49th (West Riding) Division
Age: 21
Date of Death: 1918-05-03
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: V. D. 4.
CWGC Cemetery: LA CLYTTE MILITARY CEMETERY
CWGC Memorial: -----
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
1911 Barnoldswick Census: 16, Castle View - Thomas Skinner, aged 14 years, born Blackburn, Lancashire, son of Fred and Nancy Ellen Skinner.
Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
SIGNALLER THOMAS SKINNER, Duke of Well.'s Regt., son of Mr. & Mrs. Fred Skinner, 18, Castle View, Barnoldswick, killed in action 3rd May, 1918. Aged 21 years.
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
SKINNER, Signaller Thomas, aged 21 years, West Riding Regiment, Castle View, [Barnoldswick], killed action May 3, 1918
Main CPGW Record
Surname: GREEN
Forename(s): Howarth Ratcliffe
Place of Birth: Oldham, Lancashire
Residence: -----
Service No: 28619
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: East Yorkshire Regiment
Battalion/Unit: 13th (Service) Battalion. (4th Hull)
Division: 31st Division
Age: 38
Date of Death: 1917-04-29
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: South B. 3.
CWGC Cemetery: ALBUERA CEMETERY, BAILLEUL-SIRE-BERTHOULT
CWGC Memorial: -----
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
The informal title of the 13th (Service) Bn East Yorkshire Regiment was the T'Others.
Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
PRIVATE HAWORTH R. GREEN, East Yorks. Regt., of 33, Chapel Street, Barnoldswick, killed in action 29th April, 1917. Aged 38 years
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
GREEN, H.R., aged 38 years, East Yorkshire Regiment, 33, Chapel Street, [Barnoldswick], killed in action April 29, 1917.
Article Date: 18 May 1917
GREEN - Unofficially reported from France as killed in action on April 29th, 1917, Pte. Howarth R. Green, East Yorkshire Regiment, formerly of Barnoldswick Ambulance Division, aged 38 years.
Article Date: 18 May 1917
BARNOLDSWICK'S TOLL - PRIVATE HOWARTH R. GREEN
The death is unofficially reported from France of Pte. Howarth R. Green (East Yorkshire Regiment) who was killed in action on April 29th. A letter from a Barnoldswick comrade in the same Regiment (Pte. S. Windle) states that he was killed when going into the trench on the above date. Pte. Green was 38 years of age, and leaves a widow and boy of 10 living at 33 Chapel Street, Barnoldswick. He enlisted last August and went to France on January 1st. For eight years previous to joining the Army he was a valued member of the Barnoldswick Ambulance Division, and was employed as a weaver at Messrs. Ormerod's Ltd., Moss Shed.
Divisional Sign/Service Insignia: 8th Division
Main CPGW Record
Surname: PARKER
Forename(s): William
Place of Birth: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Residence: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Service No: 52999
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: Durham Light Infantry
Battalion/Unit: 22nd (Service) Battalion. (3rd County Pioneers)
Division: 8th Division
Age: 32
Date of Death: 1917-01-27
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: XXVI. R. 6.
CWGC Cemetery: DELVILLE WOOD CEMETERY, LONGUEVAL
CWGC Memorial: -----
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
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Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
PRIVATE WILLIAM PARKER, Durham Light Infantry, son of Mr. Stephen Parker, East View, Barnoldswick, died from heart failure in France 28th January, 1917. Aged 32 years.
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
PARKER, William, aged 32 years, D.L.I., Cobden Street, [Barnoldswick], died from heart failure, France, Jan. 28, 1917
Divisional Sign/Service Insignia: 9th (Scottish) Division
Main CPGW Record
Surname: PICKERING
Forename(s): Herbert
Place of Birth: Blackburn, Lancashire
Residence: -----
Service No: 40328
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment)
Battalion/Unit: 12th (Service) Battalion
Division: 9th (Scottish) Division
Age: 36
Date of Death: 1917-03-19
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: III. H. 13.
CWGC Cemetery: FAUBOURG D'AMIENS CEMETERY, ARRAS
CWGC Memorial: -----
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
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Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
PRIVATE HERBERT PICKERING, Royal Scots Regt., eldest son of Mr. W. H. Pickering, 13, Clayton Street, Barnoldswick, killed in action 19th March, 1917. Aged 36 years.
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
PICKERING, Herbert, aged 36 years, Royal Scots, son of Mr. W.H. Pickering, 13, Clayton Street, [Barnoldswick], killed in action, France, Mar. 19, 1917
Surname: SHIRES
Forename(s): Herbert
Place of Birth: Wennington, Lancashire
Residence: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Service No: 307567
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment)
Battalion/Unit: 2/5th Battalion
Division: 62nd (2/West Riding) Division
Age: 24
Date of Death: 1917-11-27
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: Panel 6 and 7.
CWGC Cemetery: -----
CWGC Memorial: CAMBRAI MEMORIAL, LOUVERVAL
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
Brother of Wilfred Shires (265405).
Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
PRIVATE HERBERT SHIERS, Duke of Well.'s Regt., son of Mrs. Brown, 30, Lower North Avenue, Barnoldswick, presumed killed 27th November, 1917. Aged 24 years.
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
SHIRES, Herbert, aged 24 years, West Riding Regiment, 30, Lower North Avenue, [Barnoldswick], presumed killed in action.
Divisional Sign/Service Insignia: 49th (West Riding) Division
Main CPGW Record
Surname: SHIRES
Forename(s): Wilfred
Place of Birth: Wennington, Lancashire
Residence: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Service No: 265405
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment)
Battalion/Unit: 1/6th Battalion
Division: 49th (West Riding) Division
Age: 20
Date of Death: 1918-05-03
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: V. C. 8.
CWGC Cemetery: LA CLYTTE MILITARY CEMETERY
CWGC Memorial: -----
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
Brother of Herbert Shires (307567).
Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
PRIVATE WILFRED SHIERS, Duke of Well.'s Regt., son of the late Mr. William Shiers, Wennington, and Mrs. Brown, Lower North Avenue, Barnoldswick, killed in action 3rd May, 1918. Aged 20 years.
West Yorkshire Pioneer Illustrated War Record Entry:
SHIRES, Wilfred, aged 20 years, West Riding Regiment, son of the late Mr. Wm. Shires, Wennington and formerly of 30, Lower North Avenue, [Barnoldswick], killed in action May 3, 1918
Surname: WILSON
Forename(s): James
Place of Birth: Great Harwood, Lancashire
Residence: Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
Service No: 12989
Rank: Private
Regiment/Corps/Service: East Lancashire Regiment
Battalion/Unit: 6th (Service) Battalion
Division: 13th (Western) Division
Age: 24
Date of Death: 1915-08-09
Awards: -----
CWGC Grave/Mem Ref: Panel 113 to 117.
CWGC Cemetery: -----
CWGC Memorial: HELLES MEMORIAL
Non-CWGC Burial: -----
Comments:
1901 Great Harwood Census: 78, James Street - James Wilson, aged 11 years, born Great Harwood, son of John and Mary Wilson.
Craven's Part in the Great War Entry:
Article Date: 12 October 1917
BARNOLDSWICK - KILLED ON HIS BIRTHDAY
This is a portrait of Gunner Lapedge Monks, R.F.A., who, as briefly reported in last week's issue, was killed on the Western Front on September 25th - his birthday. He was 28 years of age, married and leaves a wife and one child living at 42, Willow Bank, Barnoldswick. He went out to France in March last. Before enlisting he was a weaver employed by Messrs. J. Nutter & Sons, Bankfield Shed, and was connected with the Independent Methodist Church and Sunday School. From letters received by Mrs. Monks it appears that her husband was killed while serving his gun. Major Allbury's tribute runs:- "He was a good soldier; always ready to answer duty's call, and it must be some consolation for you to know he gave his life for his country. I feel his loss very much."
Article Date: 12 October 1917
MONKS - September 25th 1917 (his birthday) killed in action on the Western Front, Gunner Lapedge Monks, R.F.A., formerly of 42, Willow Bank, Barnoldswick, aged 28 years.
Article Date: 05 October 1917
BARNOLDSWICK SOLDIER KILLED
The death is reported from France that Gunner Lapedge Monks, R.F.A., who was killed in action on September 25th. He was 28 years of age and leaves a wife and one child living at Willow Bank, Manchester Road.
Article Date: 12 October 1917
BARNOLDSWICK
KILLED ON HIS BIRTHDAY
The above is the portrait of Gunner Lapedge Monks, R.F.A., who as briefly recorded in last week's issue was killed on the western front on September 25th - his birthday. He was 28 years of age, married, and leaves a wife and one child living at 42, Willow Bank, Barnoldswick. He went out to France in March last. Before enlisting he was a weaver employed by Messrs. J. Nutter and Sons, Bankfield Shed, and was connected with the Independent Methodist Church and Sunday school. From letters receive by Mrs. Monks it appears that her husband was killed while serving his gun. Major Allbury's tribute runs:- "He was a good soldier, always ready to answer duty's call, and it must be some consolation for you to know he gave his life for his country. I feel his loss very much."
Article Date: 12 October 1917
MONKS - Killed in action, Sept. 25th, Gunner Lapage Monks, of the Royal Field Artillery, husband of Mrs. Monks, of 42, Willow Bank, Barnoldswick, aged 28
Article Date: 27 September 1918
MONKS - In loving memory of my dear husband, Gunner Lapedge Monks, who was killed in action Sept. 25th, 1917.
One year has passed away,
Remembrance brings back all -
War's bitter cost, the dear life lost -
But memory lives through all.
- From his loving Wife and Child. 54, Willow Bank, Barnoldswick.
The rest we will have to look for.
Edited by - thomo on 06/11/2011 8:15:35 PM
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thomo
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 20:40
Is this spooky or what. The last name I looked at this morning was H Shires, when re-commencing tonight the first name was W Shires, I have just closed on T Skinner?? Better yet, the photo of the stone at Ghyll on the site is almost identical to the one that I took today for Shires H & W.
Edited by - thomo on 06/11/2011 8:44:21 PM
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 22:30
I should point out that the above info is from the first pass of the database and does not include the extra information currently being added, also A E McCann is a WW2 victim, the headstone reads:-
Albert Edward McCann
Killed In Action in France
1914 - 1944
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Travis
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Posted - 06/11/2011 : 23:53
Thanks for today, all of you.
Not only did I finally find the grave on Mr Anker, I also had a good workout checking headstones with some good friends of mine. Me? Walking?
Ian, I think you "quest" down there is admireable (?) Well done.
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thomo
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Posted - 07/11/2011 : 11:32
Heather, this ones for you:-
OUR BRAVE 'BARLICK' TERRIERS The following lines are from Gunner H. Stretch, Earl of Derby's County Palatine Royal Field Artillery, a native of Barnoldswick, with a hope that they may 'inspire all true Barnoldswick men to enlist':- Here's to the brave 'Barlick' Terriers, Rejoicing their country to serve; They rose to the call, Left factory, shop and hall, From duty they never did swerve. Here's to the lads 'Barlick' Terriers, Who deserve all the gifts we can send; Their pipes we will fill With a right hearty will; They can fight, and we can spend. Here's to the good 'Barlick' Terriers, Who're fighting with might and with main; We've no need to whine, Their courage is fine; May Heaven send them safe home again. Here's to the tough 'Barlick' Terriers, Who know what it is to endure; The foe they have checked Themselves they have decked With laurels of glory be sure. Here's to our own 'Barlick' Terriers, Who're filled with right British pluck; They cry 'No surrender!' Their lives rather render, To bring our homeland Good Luck
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