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Callunna
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Posted -  12/07/2011  :  09:11
Tesco are considering opening a store in Barnoldswick.

They claim it will create 175 jobs and keep shoppers in the town, as well as saving local firm L&P Springs.

There are 2 exhibitions taking place this Friday and Saturday for people to gain more information.

Views, anyone? 


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Tardis
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Posted - 18/08/2011 : 10:32
At the town council meeting last night there was only one letter read out opposing the development of Tesco.

The Board of Trade wrote to all the members of the council, but that wasn't read out because it was deemed "personal".


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Callunna
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Posted - 18/08/2011 : 10:55
Funny isn't it? 

I'm interested in the subject yet I was unaware that there was a meeting where this issue would be discussed.

I'm not saying it wasn't publicised, just that I never saw anything about it.

They say there's a lot of apathy around - but it may only be because people just don't hear about things in time.


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tripps
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Posted - 18/08/2011 : 11:51
I was going to ask with whom the final planning decision rests, as that is where you should target your fire.  Regarding the "personal" letters to Council members - there are some funny rules about participation in Council debates now. Is it possible that they are customers or shareholders of Tesco? They may  be deemed to have an interest and not be allowed to take part. 
A local councillor down here is banned from decisions on travellers. All she said was "If I had termnal cancer, I would strap a bomb to myself, and blow them all up".  She's from Yorkshire, and is contesting the decision. An extreme example but the same principle.

Edited by - tripps on 18/08/2011 11:53:26 AM


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Tardis
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Posted - 18/08/2011 : 15:00
The actual planning is done by Pendle, but the town can still have a voice.

To target Pendle you must go to the West Craven Area Committee (notice is usually in the Council Shop)

To go to the Town Council meetings, these are advertised on the boards next to the toilet block at the co-op car park, and I think Richard the town clerk puts them on the boards in the square.

there will be a special town council meeting about the sale of the Hardy allotments, and acceptance of the accounts for last year, where we might finally see all the expenditure.

From conversations with councillors that they express they have received no negatives from people in the community, except from shop keepers and others in the town centre. I found it strange because I have complained to the councillors that I see.


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Tardis
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Posted - 29/09/2011 : 14:28
There seems to be an anti-Tesco meeting in the Majestic buildings on Monday Night, from a poster seen out in the town.

Would be interesting to go if only to see how many folk are actually against this developement.


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thomo
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Posted - 30/09/2011 : 00:00
And they are putting out leaflets, we got one yesterday. Today a couple stopped by here and asked if I had got one, "Yes, it came yesterday"  then I was told that I shouldn't have as they were supposed to be doing this area???   At the end of the day, my earlier thoughts on this still stand, the end of Wellhouse Rd, where the store is proposed has already acquired a run down appearance, behind the facade of industrial dereliction there are newer buildings that house businesses that are trying to succeed. I am not pro or "anti Tesco" but I would like to see that area lifted rather than become another eyesore, its nearly there already, and some competition may sharpen up the act in the town centre. I have been a Barlicker for more years than many members, and I have also lived elsewhere, if the fight against any kind of progress or diversity has to be fought, then think hard before making Barlick the battlefield, the generations to come may not thank you. We are now a one car household, my trusty steed would have cost more to meet the test than I held it in value, I could use the Co-op, a bit pricey! go to Sainsburys, Morrisons or Asda on the bus, fine, but try getting back with a weeks shopping, not easy. So please do not condemn this out of hand, consider how others may benefit. When a time comes, as it often does, for many of us, when we are restricted to our options by way of distance, age, disabilty or readily available transport, it will be no use thinking maybe it should have been done, it will be too late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Bradders
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Posted - 30/09/2011 : 01:11
The pattern of  "Retail Development " is irreversible. Like it or not ,the amount of goods that have to be transacted   cannot be handled by the independent retailer any longer ......That time has passed.....

Today , I stood behind a woman in Tesco who paid close to £200 for a "trolley full".....
How could she have done that "in the High Street " (and her shopping probably took less than one hour)....?

Time to accept reality , I think.
(I love our local Butcher's shop though , and I'm sure  he will survive...!)


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panbiker
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Posted - 30/09/2011 : 15:58


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Tardis wrote:
There seems to be an anti-Tesco meeting in the Majestic buildings on Monday Night, from a poster seen out in the town.

Would be interesting to go if only to see how many folk are actually against this developement.

I don't think that attendance (or not) of any given meeting can (or should) be used as a guide to how much support there is, for or against any given proposal.

Time, place, access to venue, working patterns all play a part in whether or not folk can attend. They may even be against it but not want to say so, or for it and not be able to attend.

 


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thomo
Barlick Born Old Salt


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Posted - 30/09/2011 : 16:41
Hear, Hear Ian!! Bradders, you are right, the good ones will survive. I use the Butchers at Foulridge as we went there when living at the Castle, Colne, I dont have to see what he has to offer, I can ring him, tell him what I require, collect it without adding to a parking problem, and know that the product will be first class, never once have I been asked "Can you come back in hour" as happened on several occasions in a Barlick town centre butchers, not funny when its a three quarter mile walk and raining. The town is steadily growing, the commercial sector needs to keep pace.

Edited by - thomo on 30/09/2011 4:53:03 PM


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Tardis
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Posted - 01/10/2011 : 10:25
The flaw about having Tesco here is surely alleviated by the fact that you can have your groceries delivered by Asda, Sainsburys, Tesco and even Ocado, straight to the door or fridge as some adverts pledge. Might be far better than unneccessary car journeys and pushing a trolley around a vast warehouse. The co-op in town now also offers a free delivery service if you spend £25 in store.

With regard to meetings about issues which inflame public opinions, in my experience you tend to find those who are motivated to attend will find a way to get there. The curious might go if they have the opportunity. Those who aren't bothered or sympathetic to the project would never attend. So, whilst not accurate it is at least a sounding board, and if you don't speak up up and participate then to quote a well known phrase "if a tree falls in a forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a noise?".

Edited by - Tardis on 01/10/2011 10:26:09


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thomo
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Posted - 01/10/2011 : 16:58
Then that makes it all right then, I am only 71 and I do know that there are many in Barlick who don't even know what a computer etc, looks like, let alone order their shopping by remote, and I prefer to pick my own fresh produce, not have it done by someone who possibly does not know good from bad. If you have an issue with Tesco, Asda et al, then take it up with them before you condemn Barlick to being an also ran. If I can attend the meeting then I will be there, yet it may not be possible, But be sure of this , I wish to see this town move forward and my head is not stuck in some historic Sahara.!!!


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Bradders
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Posted - 01/10/2011 : 18:32
You make a good point Thomo......Without wanting to get into the specific agument about which Retailer should open a branch on the outskirts of Any Town, I  have to say that I REALLY enjoy food shopping , no matter where it is ...
The search for Bargains , the testing for quality , and the occasional discovery of something I hadn't seen before (or had forgotten, like pomegranates) is something I relish .
Shopping "On Line" may suit some ....but it's not me!

Edited by - Bradders on 01/10/2011 6:35:21 PM


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Callunna
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 17:20

quote:
Tardis wrote:
There seems to be an anti-Tesco meeting in the Majestic buildings on Monday Night, from a poster seen out in the town.

Would be interesting to go if only to see how many folk are actually against this developement.

I have to be honest and say that actually I don't know what to think about this issue. There are pros and cons to each side.

Therefore, I'm going to mosey along to the meeting with a completely open mind and listen to what gets said. 


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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 18:38
I'll be sort of there, they're using our building and theres a trustees meeting tonight as well. Depending on how many show up dictates whether the trustees have to slum it on hard chairs........ 

 If a lot show up they'll get the chairs because there aren't so many settees.   Wink


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Callunna
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Posted - 03/10/2011 : 18:49
Good turnout - about 200 I think.

Some very interesting points made by a respectful and mature-thinking audience. No hysterics or name calling at all. 

 Nick Topo.... (hmm can't spell his surname - the osteopath guy in the Rainhall Centre!) chaired the proceedings in a very competent and lively manner.

Some people were for the Tesco development, most were against. 

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