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Doc
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I'm researching the history of Prospect Farm, Moorgate Road, Barnoldswick. Situated on Weets Hill.
If anyones got any information, pictures, memories or experiences of the place then please could you send me a private message with the details.
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Doc
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Posted - 06/01/2005 : 04:50
Below you will find all the available census information for Prospect House Farm - Barnoldswick
Census Date Dwelling Description Inhabited [Y/N] First Name Last Name Relationship Age [M/F] Occupation Origin
1841 Entered as Whitemoor Y William Siddall Head 50 M ? ?
1841 Entered as Whitemoor Y Eleanor Siddall Wife 50 F ? ?
1841 Entered as Whitemoor Y John Cryer No Entry 24 M ? ?
1851 Prospect House Y John Brown Head 43 M Farmer of 56 Acres + Lab Kildwick
1851 Prospect House Y Margaret Brown Wife 43 F Farmers Wife Thornton
1851 Prospect House Y Mary Brown Daughter 17 F Power Loom Weaver Cotton Thornton
1851 Prospect House Y William Brown Son 15 M Farmers Son Thornton
1851 Prospect House Y Jonas Brown Son 13 M Farmers Son Thornton
1851 Prospect House Y Joseph Brown Son 10 M Farmers Son Thornton
1851 Prospect House Y John Brown Son 7 M Scholar Thornton
1851 Prospect House Y Margaret Brown Daughter 3 F No Entry Barnoldswick
1851 Prospect House Y Martha Brown Daughter 1 F No Entry Barnoldswick
1861 No Record Entered
1871 Prospect House Farm Y James Harrison Head 42 M Farmer of 50 Acres Bracewell
1871 Prospect House Farm Y Elizebeth Harrison Wife 38 F Farmer Wife Bracewell
1871 Prospect House Farm Y Joseph Harrison Son 15 M Cotton Weaver Barnoldswick
1871 Prospect House Farm Y Harriot Ann Harrison Daughter 10 F Scholar Barnoldswick
1871 Prospect House Farm Y Fred Harrison Son 3 M No Entry Barnoldswick
1881 Prospect House Farm Y James Harrison Head 52 M Farmer of 38 Acres Bracewell
1881 Prospect House Farm Y Elizebeth Harrison Wife 48 F Farmer Wife Bracewell
1881 Prospect House Farm Y Harriot Ann Harrison Daughter 20 F Mill Hand Cotton Barnoldswick
1881 Prospect House Farm Y Fred Harrison Son 13 M Farmers Son Barnoldswick
1881 Prospect House Farm Y Earnest Harrison Son 9 M Scholar Barnoldswick
1891 Prospect House Farm Y Henry Bradley Head 45 M Farmer Barnoldswick
1891 Prospect House Farm Y Mary Bradley Wife 43 F Farmers Wife Accrington
1891 Prospect House Farm Y Christopher Bradley Son 24 M Farm Servant Barnoldswick
1891 Prospect House Farm Y Martha Bradley Daughter 22 F Cotton Weaver Barnoldswick
1891 Prospect House Farm Y Elizebeth Bradley Daughter 18 F Cotton Weaver Barnoldswick
1891 Prospect House Farm Y John Bradley Son 12 M Scholar Barnoldswick
1891 Prospect House Farm Y Luretta Bradley Daughter 8 F Scholar Barnoldswick
1891 Prospect House Farm Y Jane Bradley Daughter 6 F Scholar Barnoldswick
1891 Prospect House Farm Y Henry Bradley Son 3 M No Entry Barnoldswick
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 06:52
Stanley, I have brought this topic back up for two reasons.
Doc may have interesting facts to tell us about his house, as six years has past since these previous postings.
Also, how can we explain the discrepancy between the Census of 1891 showing my GGG Grandparents occupying the farm and the above info that you have posted?
From pictures I have seen of the farm, there only appears to be the one dwelling? (no little cottages attatched for other dwellers?)
On the 1891 Census I have, the Whittaker Family are the only people listed.
Interesting...
get your people to phone my people and we will do lunch...MAZ |
Stanley
Local Historian & Old Fart
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 10:39
I can't explain the above census results as I din't think they are mine. I've just gone through the 1881 and 1891 spreadsheet I use and have come up with these:
Harrison Elizabeth 48 Barnoldswick Prospect House 57 Barnoldswick St. James Square 14
Harrison Fred 13 Barnoldswick Prospect House 23 Barnoldswick St. James Square 14
Harrison Harriet Ann 20 Barnoldswick Prospect House
Harrison James 54 Barnoldswick Prospect House
Whittaker James 22 Barnoldswick Park Road Cottages 29 Barnoldswick Prospect House
Whittaker (Whitaker) Mary 1 Barnoldswick Park Road Cottages 11 Barnoldswick Prospect House
The first address is the 1881 census and the second is 1891. Sorry about the formatting, it went haywire.
Stanley Challenger Graham
Barlick View
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belle
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 11:28
is it me or is the word "farm" missing from the set of census esults you have just put up stanley, it is possible that prospect house farm and porspect house are two seperate properties. In fact it would make a lot of sense as most large houses had "home farms".
Life is what you make it |
Sue
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 11:35
How interesting Stanley, both Harrisons and Whittakers are in my family circa mid to late 1800s
If you keep searching you'll find it |
Sue
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 11:36
Oh yes and the Harrisons were farmers I believe
If you keep searching you'll find it |
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 13:59
The Foulridge Harrison's stayed at Noyna Hall, but they were Hatters !!
It may be possible to find out ( if you really wanted to know ) by looking for a Birth Marriage or Death cert for someone around that time, or online parish clerks. Sure Wendy would know how to find out any information that exsists !!!
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thomo
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 15:05
Is the Harrison at the Old Stone Trough farm one of these?
thomo |
Doc
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Posted - 20/05/2011 : 22:29
I got the above census information from the micro fiche readers down at Barnoldswick Library back in 2005 when I first started researching the house. I can't explain the discrepancy - sorry
TTFN - Doc
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Stanley
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Posted - 21/05/2011 : 06:45
As far as I know Prospect House and Farm are the same building. No sign of any other house on the site. The present conversion next door is the old barn. I searched the two censuses by name and no other prospect surfaced in Barlick. In this area 'house' and 'farm' seem to be interchangeable names for agricultural holdings, plenty of examples if you look at the map.
Stanley Challenger Graham
Barlick View
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marilyn
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Posted - 21/05/2011 : 23:34
I agree that the terms house/farm are interchangeable too, from all the paperwork I have come across. Some use both expressions in the title, someonly one or tuther.
I was wondering if, when it came to farms or large dwellings they may record non-resident owners (tax purposes) and inhabitants....?
get your people to phone my people and we will do lunch...MAZ |
Stanley
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Posted - 22/05/2011 : 05:51
Maz. The census simply records the people present in the house at the time the count was taken, irrespective of status. This is why occasionally people are recorded twice, they travelled to another house and got there before the enumerator. If someone isn't there, they are not recorded.
Stanley Challenger Graham
Barlick View
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belle
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Posted - 22/05/2011 : 11:07
One of the findings in my tree was a relative born in a "hall" but they were not wealthy landowners they were one of up to 40 families renting a room in what would have otherwise become a derelict building..
Edited by - belle on 22/05/2011 11:08:06 AM
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Posted - 22/05/2011 : 12:24
quote:
Stanley wrote:
Maz. The census simply records the people present in the house at the time the count was taken, irrespective of status. This is why occasionally people are recorded twice, they travelled to another house and got there before the enumerator. If someone isn't there, they are not recorded.Do you remember those panoramic School Photos.?
It was rumoured ,that if you were on one end , you could nip round the back and appear on the other as well ....!
(but only on a dull day , maybe)
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marilyn
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Posted - 23/05/2011 : 05:04
I was unable to tolerate this mystery, so I haved searched both Census entries for the Harrison family.
I find Docs original information to be incorrect.
Certainly the Harrison family were at Prospect House in 1881.
James Harrison Head 56 Farmer of 38 Acres Born Bracewell
Elizabeth Wife 48 Farmers Wife Born Barnoldswick
Harriet Ann Daug 24 Mill Hand Cotton Born Barnoldswick
Fred Son 13 Farmers Son "
Ernest Son 9 Scholar '
However...in the 1891 Census your information about the Harrison family being at Prospect is incorrect.
Elizabeth is now a WIDOW, age noted as 57 and is listed as a Dressmaker. Lives with Fred and Ernest (sons) at 14 St James Square.
This tallies with my findings of the Whittakers being at Prospect House in 1891.
Edited by - marilyn on 23/05/2011 05:08:17 AM
get your people to phone my people and we will do lunch...MAZ |
Prospect Farm - Barnoldswick
