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panbiker
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Posted -  25/02/2007  :  13:34
I thought it might be a good idea to start a new topic off in this area for research or information

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Invernahaille
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 13:44
Having signed the official secrets act on several occasions, and now being protected by the fifth amendment. I take the right to remain silent, and not incriminate myself. LOL.


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Stanley
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 17:16
Ian, with what purpose in mind?


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panbiker
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 17:48

I thought it might serve as a place to post general questions or appeals for information required in research.

I was thinking of putting a category up for reports on finds, obviously it would be up to the poster how much detail of precise find location is given.

These posts could be linked to photos of finds. what do you think? Original topics seem to go off at an angle at times.




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melteaser
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 17:52

Thanks Stanley, I thought I had missed something in the first post.

Ian, research of what?




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panbiker
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 18:30

Oh dear, I seem to be confusing people, my apologies.

The intention is an area where questions may be posted for information to help narrow down areas that may be potential search areas (subject to permission being obtained of course).

There's an awful lot of land out there, any information that can help to narrow down where you should be looking for artefacts is to be welcomed. 90% of sucessful detecting is in the research. See my latest post in the original topic to get an idea of what I mean.

I hope this all makes sense!

post referred to above moved to this thread



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melteaser
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 21:02

Still a little vague but as there is a reference to detecting, I'm guessing  you are referring to metal detecting?




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panbiker
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 21:05

Correct, the category is a sub section under metal detecting in the hobby forum




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melteaser
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 22:17
My apologies, Ian. I didn't look at the category.......never do. I just read the thread!


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panbiker
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Posted - 25/02/2007 : 22:28

No apology nescessary Mel, but it does point out how easy it is to "get lost" on a site as diverse as this. I have moved the topic from the other thread which I referred to earlier below.

This is the kind of content I feel should be in this thread.

Stanley, I was thinking about something I read a few years ago now about Prince Ruperts Army making their way to York after fighting at the battle of Preston Brook.

The account has the Prince's army 30,000 strong coming up the Ribble valley and then turning "Over the Lancashire Hills" in order to avoid conflict at Skipton which was garrisoned by the Parliamentary Army at the time, busy seiging Skipton Castle.

I know from other reports that there were encampments a Stock but it's all very sketchy. The 30,000 would almost certainly include the wives and children of soldiers called to the flag and the sundry support people that would be required for fighting war.

There are reports of skirmishes on Boulsworth Moor at the same time. and it makes you wonder how much stuff they dropped or decided to leave behind rather than carry.

I would imagine that they may well have split up around the Gisburn area, factions could have taken quite a few different routes to get to York.

Any thoughts?




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Debs
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Posted - 27/02/2007 : 02:36
So what happens if something is found of historical value in the back yard? Or something sinister? Think of all the centuries of history under the rolling green hills!

Has anyone done metal detecting on the key battlefields...say Culloden Moor? Doesn't seem like it would be allowed...but would probably be interesting in a creepy sort of way. Spooky place...God only knows what's under there still.


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panbiker
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Posted - 27/02/2007 : 17:41

Hi Debs,

I don't know what your State or Federal regulations are regarding Metal Detecting Finds in the USA. As for sites such as Culloden here in the UK. Our laws are that, if the site is regarded as a national monument or is scheduled as such, it is illegal to detect on such ground. The law in Scotland is different to the law in the rest of the UK, The UK Treasure Act is relevant to England, Wales and Northern Ireland. I believe that finds in Scotland have to be reported to the County Sherrif. I have never detected in Scotland but would check the regulations before doing so.




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Stanley
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Posted - 28/02/2007 : 06:34
The funny thing about detecting Debs is that the important finds aren't confined to 'important sites'.   Some of the most stunning finds in archaeology are made by accident in places where nobody expected anything out of the ordinary.  I was struck last year by the case of the man who found a gold ring while grubbing an old hedge out in his garden, it was Early Saxon and had laid there or almost 2000 years waiting for him to turn it up.  The bottom line in UK is that after thousands of years of metal working the country is littered with artefacts just waiting to be found, hence the lure of the metal detector......


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panbiker
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Posted - 28/02/2007 : 21:21
Fortunately, the vast majority of artifacts are still to be found within a depth of about 9", this is why ploughed land is always desirable to search. Ploughing constantly re-cycles artifacts and fields that have supported a lot of human activity over the passage of time can produce finds on a continuous basis for years.


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panbiker
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Posted - 01/03/2007 : 23:33

Does anyone know the location of any good examples of old pollarded trees along field boundaries or alongside the older lanes around the local Barlick area? Particularly, single examples?




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Stanley
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Posted - 02/03/2007 : 06:23
Not a lot of pollarding in this area.  If you're looking for old boundaries go into Stanley's View and read the Holly and the Ivy.....  That'll give you some good clues for ancient habitation.


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